Have you ever wondered what

Idiots look like?

Well, wonder no more!


YES, THAT IS A POWER CORD FLOATING ON FLIP FLOPS.

Looks like the type plug-ins that we had in Germany in mid-1980's, so I'm guessing that soon there will be people here who tell us that we should do the same as these ID 10 T's ahem, 'folks' are doing because it obviously hasn't hurt them! (yet!!)

I have this crazy urge to toss them a twelve pack.

I've seen this one.

I was told that it's safe as the power is DC or something like that, maybe something with the voltage or wattage. I can't remember. But it's a European setup.

Any of you resident sparky's know?

Been a long while since I danced the '60Hz Shuffle'.

Water Polo anyone? Sychronized Seizures?

Oh. The pool is full of DISTILLED water. Perfectly safe.

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Originally posted by Fighterpilotmafia:
I've seen this one.

I was told that it's safe as the power is DC or something like that, maybe something with the voltage or wattage. I can't remember. But it's a European setup.

Europe uses 220 VAC/ 50hz power. But it's not the volts that kills ya. It's the amps. And no... it's NOT DC power. These Darwin Award Nominees are using house current.

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Any of you resident sparky's know?

Maybe.

Shocking to say the least.

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Originally posted by hgary2003:
Shocking to say the least.

" It's ELECTRIFYING! "

It makes you wonder how they have survived as long as they have,Thats taking stupid to a whole new level.

^ Yeah.

I'd at LEAST have plugged in my laptop so I could surf pR0n in the pool too!

While there's no way I'll ever know the facts of this pic, I do notice things that make me wonder if it's a staged photo just for S&G's.

The power cord from the multi-outlet does not appear to be plugged into what appears to be the red extention cord. It just kinda goes out of sight. I have no idea what that red, flat, roundish connector-looking thing in the lower left corner is.

^ Yeah.

It's 'staged'. Because by golly, we're just too stoopid to actually believe that people can be and ARE.... Too Stoopid!

YARHOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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Originally posted by _HAL_9000:
Been a long while since I danced the '60Hz Shuffle'.

Water Polo anyone? Sychronized Seizures?

Oh. The pool is full of DISTILLED water. Perfectly safe.

Has anyone noticed there in an Insolated plastic pool? wheres the path to ground that would complete the circuit? Without a complete circuit there safe. A circuit starts at a source of supply goes through a resistance and returns to the opposite side of the same source of supply. Hence the term short circuit when you touch the two leads together and Kaboom. Same as staying in your car when a high voltage line is lying across your car sparking the tires are insulating you from completing the circuit.

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Originally posted by john2x:

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Originally posted by _HAL_9000:
Been a long while since I danced the '60Hz Shuffle'.

Water Polo anyone? Sychronized Seizures?

Oh. The pool is full of DISTILLED water. Perfectly safe.

Has anyone noticed there in an Insolated plastic pool? wheres the path to ground that would complete the circuit? Without a complete circuit there safe. A circuit starts at a source of supply goes through a resistance and returns to the opposite side of the same source of supply. Hence the term short circuit when you touch the two leads together and Kaboom. Same as staying in your car when a high voltage line is lying across your car sparking the tires are insulating you from completing the circuit.

except for the guy leaning on the edge, which looks to be at or below the water level at that point, which could allow water to steam down to the ground, thus completing the circuit.

I will say that the most likely event would be the water connecting the two poles and blowing the breaker or the fuse. It is still dangerous but unlikely to cause injury.

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Originally posted by john2x:



Has anyone noticed there in an Insolated plastic pool? wheres the path to ground that would complete the circuit? Without a complete circuit there safe. A circuit starts at a source of supply goes through a resistance and returns to the opposite side of the same source of supply. Hence the term short circuit when you touch the two leads together and Kaboom. Same as staying in your car when a high voltage line is lying across your car sparking the tires are insulating you from completing the circuit.

Thank you very much for the electricity lesson. I want you to try it sometime. Set it up yourself just like in the pic and see how long it takes the breaker to trip or the fuse to blow before you feel a little tingly if that stuff gets immersed!

After all, bathtubs made of fiberglass are insolated (sic), yet people get electrocuted every year using things like blow dryers while immersed. YOU become part of the short circuit. YOU are part of the resistive load. But hey... what do I know...

Go ahead! Do it!

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Originally posted by _HAL_9000:

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Originally posted by john2x:



Has anyone noticed there in an Insolated plastic pool? wheres the path to ground that would complete the circuit? Without a complete circuit there safe. A circuit starts at a source of supply goes through a resistance and returns to the opposite side of the same source of supply. Hence the term short circuit when you touch the two leads together and Kaboom. Same as staying in your car when a high voltage line is lying across your car sparking the tires are insulating you from completing the circuit.

Thank you very much for the electricity lesson. I want you to try it sometime. Set it up yourself just like in the pic and see how long it takes the breaker to trip or the fuse to blow before you feel a little tingly if that stuff gets immersed!

After all, bathtubs made of fiberglass are insolated (sic), yet people get electrocuted every year using things like blow dryers while immersed. YOU become part of the short circuit. YOU are part of the resistive load. But hey... what do I know...

Go ahead! Do it!

Well at least your honest Hal and do ask the questions and look at the entire picture. Everyone cant possibly know everything and to admit that is admirable. some times it take more than common sense to solve problems. I only wish more people would view 9/11 in that same frame of mind and. look at the entire picture and realize that science and physics are exacting science that can be proven and demand an investigation and answers that only proffesionals in the different fields can answer.

The fiberglass bathtubs you speak of Have drains which are perfect retun paths which complete the circiut of which the person is part of the resistance along with the minerals in the water.
Water in itself is not a conductor of electricty
Its the minerals in the water and thats why the higher the mineral content the higher the conductivity and electricty always takes the path of least resistance.

The outlet itself in the plastic pool case provides the only return path and the resistance
of the water itself may even prevent the short circuit and probably not blow the breaker keeping the pool electrified and by stepping out of the pool you would become a parallel circuit be electocuted and still not blow the breaker.

Starsky: No, seriously, come on, do it. Do it.


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John, John, John...

I guess you missed my 'pool filled with distilled water' comment which was a joke but should still have tipped you off to the fact that I already knew that water itself is non-conductive.

Also, people are still electrocuted in tubs which have PVC plumbing. Tub is still isolated, but water is still conductive ( due to impurities. You are absolutely correct about that ). You said it yourself. In that case the return path is though the outlet ( or device ) itself. But a return path is a return path and only the quick action of a ground fault interrupt circuit might save these guys in the pool ( or person in a tub ) from a little jolt. It might not be fatal unless the path somehow travels through their hearts. It only takes a few milliamps of current to induce fibrillation. Anyway, the REAL hazard in the water is if they directly touch any live stuff which is immersed, but the water itself can become charged and sometimes this is enough to get zapped.

I'll tell ya a little story; this guy I knew had a Koi pond. Yep. Non-conductive liner. That kind of thing. Wanted to put in an immersible lamp. But he wired the lamp incorrectly, immersed it and lo and behold... he had floating Koi in a matter of seconds. He was lucky. Only lost two out of a hundred. Was able to 'massage' the rest back to life. They got stunned pretty good.

Return path? Through the lamp wiring. But the pond? New liner. No leaks. No other path to ground. No metal parts... except the lamp itself which was designed to be immersed but because the guy is color-blind, wired ground and hot incorrectly.... so the metal housing was now 'hot'. Charged the water and the Koi didn't like that much.

There's a reason that normal electrical stuff says, 'Do Not Immerse' or 'Do Not Operate in or near water'.