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We knew the web was big...

7/25/2008 10:12:00 AM
We've known it for a long time: the web is big. The first Google index in 1998 already had 26 million pages, and by 2000 the Google index reached the one billion mark. Over the last eight years, we've seen a lot of big numbers about how much content is really out there. Recently, even our search engineers stopped in awe about just how big the web is these days -- when our systems that process links on the web to find new content hit a milestone: 1 trillion (as in 1,000,000,000,000) unique URLs on the web at once!
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/we-knew-web-was-big.html

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Originally posted by 14713742:
Heard something similar about this on the radio today. So I decided to investigate myself. To my surprise after doing an advanced search, I came up with this:



One result was "Were our Founding Fathers Terrorists?"

Though we spit and spat here on this Forum I never realized as to what scope the disgruntled would go or talk about concerning our country.

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Originally posted by Yooper_tj:
Yeah.

Google is very secretive about the specifics of their search algorithms...but you can count on a couple of things being true:

This is from the 'Official Google Blog':

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We knew the web was big...

7/25/2008 10:12:00 AM
We've known it for a long time: the web is big. The first Google index in 1998 already had 26 million pages, and by 2000 the Google index reached the one billion mark. Over the last eight years, we've seen a lot of big numbers about how much content is really out there. Recently, even our search engineers stopped in awe about just how big the web is these days -- when our systems that process links on the web to find new content hit a milestone: 1 trillion (as in 1,000,000,000,000) unique URLs on the web at once!
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/we-knew-web-was-big.html

The search as you've entered it will return all web pages in Google's index which contain both the terms:

Terrorists

Founding Fathers

Google will also 'branch' the search to include not just 'terrorists' but 'terrorist' and certain common misspellings like terrist and terorist. Same with founding father and fonding faters. They may (depending on some human input on Google's part) even branch so that an article titled: "How would our Founding Fathers have fought the Global War on Terror?" might make the cut.

Did you think the internet is restricted to loyal Americans? Only Americans? Forbidden to Real Marxists, or Nazis, or Jane Fonda types, or al qaida wannabes, or Hugo Chavez fans, or nuts of all sorts who like to exercise their writing skills?

Watch this:









And then there's this:



Study up on the technology, numbers guy. Google is not a political polling agency--they're far, far too smart to fall into that nonsense.

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Study up on the technology, numbers guy. Google is not a political polling agency--they're far, far too smart to fall into that nonsense.

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Originally posted by Yooper_tj:
Okay. So more web pages have the word Terrorists and the exact term 'Founding Fathers' than have the word Terrorists and the exact term "Timothy McVeigh"...same with "Bill O'Reilly"...but fewer than "Glenn Beck".

What does it say that "George Bush" and "Barack Obama" return millions--MILLIONS--more pages?

Perhaps that the word 'terrorists' is tossed around at the drop of a hat these days?

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Originally posted by Yooper_tj:
Okay. So more web pages have the word Terrorists and the exact term 'Founding Fathers' than have the word Terrorists and the exact term "Timothy McVeigh"...same with "Bill O'Reilly"...but fewer than "Glenn Beck".

What does it say that "George Bush" and "Barack Obama" return millions--MILLIONS--more pages?

Perhaps that the word 'terrorists' is tossed around at the drop of a hat these days?

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Originally posted by 14713742:

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Originally posted by Yooper_tj:
Okay. So more web pages have the word Terrorists and the exact term 'Founding Fathers' than have the word Terrorists and the exact term "Timothy McVeigh"...same with "Bill O'Reilly"...but fewer than "Glenn Beck".

What does it say that "George Bush" and "Barack Obama" return millions--MILLIONS--more pages?

Perhaps that the word 'terrorists' is tossed around at the drop of a hat these days?

I'm sure that you must be right; words being tossed around. One thing is probably certain there are some disgruntled people out there. It is too bad that "The few have to upset the many." I think the country is polarized about half and half and that is really a sad affair.

Respectively...Phil

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Originally posted by Yooper_tj:

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Originally posted by 14713742:

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Originally posted by Yooper_tj:
Okay. So more web pages have the word Terrorists and the exact term 'Founding Fathers' than have the word Terrorists and the exact term "Timothy McVeigh"...same with "Bill O'Reilly"...but fewer than "Glenn Beck".

What does it say that "George Bush" and "Barack Obama" return millions--MILLIONS--more pages?

Perhaps that the word 'terrorists' is tossed around at the drop of a hat these days?

I'm sure that you must be right; words being tossed around. One thing is probably certain there are some disgruntled people out there. It is too bad that "The few have to upset the many." I think the country is polarized about half and half and that is really a sad affair.

Respectively...Phil

A country divided 50/50 keeps the sheep armed and the wolves hungry, Phil.

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Originally posted by Yooper_tj:
I dunno...I tend to lose my edge in the absence of adversity.

Nothing worth having is easy.

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Originally posted by 14713742:
Heard something similar about this on the radio today. So I decided to investigate myself. To my surprise after doing an advanced search, I came up with this:



One result was "Were our Founding Fathers Terrorists?"

Though we spit and spat here on this Forum I never realized as to what scope the disgruntled would go or talk about concerning our country.

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Originally posted by strobelvets:
Is it that difficult...after all...most of us swore to uphold those ideals held by our ancestors...


A few words, spoken in earnest by our Founders, personify our solemnly held ideals...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

And moved us to swear allegiance to our Constitution...

Let us try to live up to them...our sacred oath once uttered...binds us together for our lifetimes...that We the People might convey these principles and privileges upon our children...

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Originally posted by Fightdirector:
I worked for the George McGovern Presidential campaign in 1972 - and, because I did, some Nixon supporters called me a "terrorist" (along with other, nastier things).

I worked for the John Kerry Presidential campaign in 1972 - and, because I did, some Bush supporters called me a "terrorist" (along with other, nastier things).

Just goes to show the old adage is right: One man's patriot is another man's terrorist, and one man's terrorist is another man's patriot.

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Originally posted by 14713742:

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Originally posted by strobelvets:
Is it that difficult...after all...most of us swore to uphold those ideals held by our ancestors...


A few words, spoken in earnest by our Founders, personify our solemnly held ideals...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

And moved us to swear allegiance to our Constitution...

Let us try to live up to them...our sacred oath once uttered...binds us together for our lifetimes...that We the People might convey these principles and privileges upon our children...

A lot of ground needs to be made up if we are going to keep this great nation free. It is long past for a resurgence of our knowledge as to why this great country came to be.

Thanks for the reminder.

--Bump--

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Originally posted by Mom2APAJ:

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Originally posted by 14713742:

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Originally posted by strobelvets:
Is it that difficult...after all...most of us swore to uphold those ideals held by our ancestors...


A few words, spoken in earnest by our Founders, personify our solemnly held ideals...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

And moved us to swear allegiance to our Constitution...

Let us try to live up to them...our sacred oath once uttered...binds us together for our lifetimes...that We the People might convey these principles and privileges upon our children...

A lot of ground needs to be made up if we are going to keep this great nation free. It is long past for a resurgence of our knowledge as to why this great country came to be.

Thanks for the reminder.

--Bump--

Funny, that many claim to "hate" the US yet millions continue to come here, legally and illegally, because we are still the best place in the world to live, with the most opportunities to provide for your family, the kindest most generous people, the country every nation on earth turns to in times of disaster because we are always there with medical aid, to rebuild, to safeguard and protect.
Frankly Scarlett, I don't care what anyone says. If you can earn a living, have asafe place to live, eat regularly, attend worship (of your choice or not attend at all), send your children to school free of charge, not fear walking down your street or speaking your mind without fear of reprisal/arrest from the Government (at least not yet), then you are better off than most people on earth.

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Originally posted by 14713742:

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Originally posted by Mom2APAJ:

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Originally posted by 14713742:

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Originally posted by strobelvets:
Is it that difficult...after all...most of us swore to uphold those ideals held by our ancestors...


A few words, spoken in earnest by our Founders, personify our solemnly held ideals...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

And moved us to swear allegiance to our Constitution...

Let us try to live up to them...our sacred oath once uttered...binds us together for our lifetimes...that We the People might convey these principles and privileges upon our children...

A lot of ground needs to be made up if we are going to keep this great nation free. It is long past for a resurgence of our knowledge as to why this great country came to be.

Thanks for the reminder.

--Bump--

Funny, that many claim to "hate" the US yet millions continue to come here, legally and illegally, because we are still the best place in the world to live, with the most opportunities to provide for your family, the kindest most generous people, the country every nation on earth turns to in times of disaster because we are always there with medical aid, to rebuild, to safeguard and protect.
Frankly Scarlett, I don't care what anyone says. If you can earn a living, have asafe place to live, eat regularly, attend worship (of your choice or not attend at all), send your children to school free of charge, not fear walking down your street or speaking your mind without fear of reprisal/arrest from the Government (at least not yet), then you are better off than most people on earth.

True. However, what keeps us that way is who we are as a nation. With that in mind we must guard against those who want otherwise for selfish reasons. Such as "the government taketh and giveth to someone else; just because you got more stuff". Creating a nation of the disabled. Since President Wilson widespread socialism has risen. Of course, there is some Socialism (freebies) and it should be for the disabled not the enabled.

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Originally posted by Mom2APAJ:

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Originally posted by 14713742:

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Originally posted by Mom2APAJ:

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Originally posted by 14713742:

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Originally posted by strobelvets:
Is it that difficult...after all...most of us swore to uphold those ideals held by our ancestors...


A few words, spoken in earnest by our Founders, personify our solemnly held ideals...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

And moved us to swear allegiance to our Constitution...

Let us try to live up to them...our sacred oath once uttered...binds us together for our lifetimes...that We the People might convey these principles and privileges upon our children...

A lot of ground needs to be made up if we are going to keep this great nation free. It is long past for a resurgence of our knowledge as to why this great country came to be.

Thanks for the reminder.

--Bump--

Funny, that many claim to "hate" the US yet millions continue to come here, legally and illegally, because we are still the best place in the world to live, with the most opportunities to provide for your family, the kindest most generous people, the country every nation on earth turns to in times of disaster because we are always there with medical aid, to rebuild, to safeguard and protect.
Frankly Scarlett, I don't care what anyone says. If you can earn a living, have asafe place to live, eat regularly, attend worship (of your choice or not attend at all), send your children to school free of charge, not fear walking down your street or speaking your mind without fear of reprisal/arrest from the Government (at least not yet), then you are better off than most people on earth.

True. However, what keeps us that way is who we are as a nation. With that in mind we must guard against those who want otherwise for selfish reasons. Such as "the government taketh and giveth to someone else; just because you got more stuff". Creating a nation of the disabled. Since President Wilson widespread socialism has risen. Of course, there is some Socialism (freebies) and it should be for the disabled not the enabled.

I agree.
I have no problem and believe we should care for those who are physically/mentally unable or too elderly to care for themselves. I also believe we should help those who are trying BUT I do not believe we should be stealing money from those who have worked hard to earn it to give it to those who choose not to work or those here illegally.

Welfare is a prime example and has become a generational drain on our tax paying citizens. Welfare should be a one time thing lasting no more than 5 years in a lifetime (barring critically extenuating circumstances) during which time a person would be required to go to school to learn a job skill/trade; receive sensible safe housing/ utility/ clothing/ child care allowance; medical/dental care would be provided. The recipient would be required to take regular drug test, make passing grades, etc. Once that 5 years had ended that person would be expected to work, pay taxes, be a contributing member of society.

Illegals exploiting/using our hospitals as their primary health care providers is bankrupty hospitals from FL to CA. that should end immediately.

Deeport those who are here illegally resulting in saving millions of dollars.

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Originally posted by fishnfanatic:
I suppose we could argue over which came first the chicken or the egg.

I prefer to keep it simple. Terrorists, especially the one's we are dealing with today are more concerned about oppression of a nation.
And use terror as they're major tactic.

Whereas, our founding fathers were concerned more about winning freedom of oppression by a nation.

Simple isn't it? For some, its still too complicated. But then, they couldn't figure out a ..........uh, I better not say it, the moderators won't like it.

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Originally posted by dragonflyer04:
Our Founding Fathers were terrorists to the Brits no doubt...Jesus was a rebel to the Sanhedrin...

As for hate I very much agree you can see our country today in a 50 - 50 standoff...but that is democracy at its bitter end...

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:

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Originally posted by dragonflyer04:
Our Founding Fathers were terrorists to the Brits no doubt...Jesus was a rebel to the Sanhedrin...

As for hate I very much agree you can see our country today in a 50 - 50 standoff...but that is democracy at its bitter end...

It is not 50-50. More like 10-10, the very vocal lunatic fringes.