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I am pro life which is why I support:
Pro Child, Pro Life, Pro Choice |
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Highly Experienced Member 14000 posts as Cider33Alpha ------------------ Proud Member ------------------ |
Works for me, but prepare for incoming.
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You cant be pro choice and pro life.
Sorry, you're not having it both ways. And feel free to keep posting numbers that have been soundly destroyed. I dont expect facts or reasoned opinions from the left. Everything you think you know about your One is a mirage. Its falling apart bit by bit everyday. Enjoy the power now. |
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I don't know threerings, I call myself prochoice but do not believe in abortion. I just don't think I have a right to tell someone else what they can or can not do with their body. Now if I was married and my wife got pregnant and wanted an abortion, I wouldn't be with her very long and would fight her in court about it. Make sense to you? Todays politics remind me of an old saying. - "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Joseph Stalin |
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would you like a cookie? |
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Previous Posts as Jade_Gate |
Personally I favor natural selection and culling the herd occasionally when things start getting too crowded.
Seems to me 78.1 is long enough ... at least once you are confined to a nursing home or a back room at your children's home. There is a difference between life and longevity. It isn't longetivity that matters to me ... but how good the life is. BTW ... totally off topic ... since quitting smoking, my taste buds have made a comeback ... and I'm amazed at how crappy so many things taste that I thought I liked. |
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Anything I post on these boards is my opinion only unless accompanied by documented fact. Know that in politics my emotions is with no party. |
I don't see why not? That is my main problem with those who proclaim themselves "Pro-Life". They seem to place the term as being confined to their agenda rather than the broad aspects of the words. I know it is an old argument but how can one say they are "Pro-Life" and support the death penalty knowing that hundreds have been released from death row after spending decades fighting for their lives and only released through modern technology and someone willing to fight for you. So how many innocents died before the technology and how many have died since? How can you truly be "Pro-Life" if you are pro-war? How can one be "Pro-Life" if they are not pro-active with the orphans which are many among us? But from what I have seen and continue to see is those who deem themselves "Pro-Life" limiting the term only in regard to abortion. Like another poster stated; I consider myself "Pro-Choice" because I don't think of myself as wise enough to make a decision for a woman I don't even know, nor do I know the circumstance which would lead a woman to make such a choice. But I also consider myself "Pro-Life" because I do give of my time and money to the orphans and homeless children. And I feel if we kill even one innocent human being then the state murdered them and robbed an individual and that individual's family of a life. Yes you can have it both ways and as intelligent caring people, we absolutely must. JMHO This message has been edited. Last edited by: MightyB, WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OURSELVES ALONE DIES WITH US;WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OTHERS AND THE WORLD IS AND REMAINS IMMORTAL |
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BS. She give numbers and you give opinion. When you claim stats are wrong, at least have the decency to make up your own. Makes you seem less vapid. Somehow, I get this picture of you wishing upon a star every night. |
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Just like you can't be pro life and pro death penalty? |
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"Triumph over bygone sorrow, can in unity be won." |
I concur. If anyone backs up what they say it's SW. You can always count on the fact that she does her homework. Btw Thud, what's decency in P/CP? No one starts a war--or rather, no one in his senses ought to do so--without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by that war and how he intends to conduct it. Carl von Clausewitz |
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You dont have the right? We do it EVERYDAY. Every single day we tell people what they can and cannot do with "their" bodies. So, no, it doesn't make sense. |
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Ya, killing an unborn fetus and a convicted criminal are the same thing...
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Previous Posts as Jade_Gate |
Me ... I'm anti-abortion, pro-death penalty. All this pro-life and pro-choice stuff confuses me. I'm happy dealing in specifics ... not generalities. They get you in trouble. The "right to choose" means that old folks like me get to exit the net on our own terms ... at least IMHO. |
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I've beaten those numbers senseless again and again.. Hey, can we drag out the WHO stats for me to knock out of the park again? Really I get tired of countering the same tripe over and over and over again. The numbers are garbage. Anyone with half a brain would easily understand that. |
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I'll give you this much: Pro-life might not be the right term for what I am.
I dont beleive in the killing of unborn children because two adults failed to act like adults. |
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Anything I post on these boards is my opinion only unless accompanied by documented fact. Know that in politics my emotions is with no party. |
So the few/however many they got wrong is an acceptable death? And history shows that they have gotten it wrong numerous times and only God knows how many were not revealed. Just saying......,.,.., WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OURSELVES ALONE DIES WITH US;WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OTHERS AND THE WORLD IS AND REMAINS IMMORTAL |
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Fortunately we live in America where you can be whatever you wish...no matter how conflicted you are. I myself and pro-life and anti-death penalty. |
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"Triumph over bygone sorrow, can in unity be won." |
And I am pro-choice and pro-death penalty........Gosh Dave, what's conflicted No one starts a war--or rather, no one in his senses ought to do so--without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by that war and how he intends to conduct it. Carl von Clausewitz |
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Experienced Member ------------------ Proud member ------------------ |
You can be ProLife if you look at it as a philosophical stand...meaning your view of life. Others may choose to abort a child but you may not...do they have a right to do so in this world ... "yes", why? the Bible says we all have been given "free will" by God...and we will make mistakes but we can be forgiven. Life is our test of faith. God is the final judge. Remember "judge not lest ye be judged"!
So you can do and be both... |
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I didn't get the memo it was opposite day... |
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The contemptible doublespeak about more than a million American human lives destroyed for "convenience"--no more moral than what totalitarian regimes throughout history have immorally rationalized--marks the lack of underlying character among the leftists. And many of them happily seek to turn their backs on the wisdom of the millennia with regard to other societal norms, learned the long, hard way in many centuries of experience and reflection. |
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Good post IMO |
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Indeed! There is no in between. This thread appears to be either in the baiting or disruptive posting category. This tired old subject - we all know by now who supports life and who doesn't. *sigh* "Anything easy ain't worth a damn." Woody Hayes (RIP) |
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veni, vidi, vici |
It depends on what your comparing it to. As for the unborn or the murderer. When it comes to the innocent unborn, I am pro-life. But for the convicted murderer who has exhausted all of his/hers appeals, and who has committed atrocities against innocent humans, then I definatly am pro death penalty. |
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Ah....if it were only that simple.... |
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Thats seems pretty simple to me. |
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I said death penalty. Not who has exhausted all of his/hers appeals, and who has committed atrocities against innocent humans.
What about the 123 people have been found innocent of the crime they were sentenced to death for? Or what about those that ran out of appeals that were executed and were innocent? Seems they would be like the innocent children put to death???? |
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veni, vidi, vici |
I agree with you to a certain extent, those who were caught red handed, and those who were convicted "without a SHADOW of a doubt", should receive whats coming to them.
However those convicted by "without a REASONABLE doubt", is still questionable. |
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I'm pro-homosexuals, so long as dont ask dont tell is enforced.
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veni, vidi, vici |
I am not. |
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