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At a town hall meeting in Raleigh, North Carolina on July 29 President Obama said,

"So I just want everybody to know, Congress will have time to read the bill. They will have time to debate the bill. They will have all of August to review the various legislative proposals. When we come back in September, I will be available to answer any question that members of Congress have. If they want to come over to the White House and go over line by line what's going on, I will be happy to do that."

A month ago, Congressman Phil Roe sent him two letters asking him for a time and place to conduct this line by line review. He has not responded to him.

TEXT OF ROE'S SECOND LETTER:

"To follow up on a previous letter I sent in August, accepting your offer to "come over to the White House and go over line-by-line what's going on," I am still waiting for a response about a scheduled time. The day the letter was faxed to the White House, your Press Secretary Robert Gibbs affirmed your willingness to get that done."

"To date, no one from the White House has even suggested a time when we can sit down and go over the health care bill, which you suggested we do at a town hall meeting in Raleigh.

"In August, the media reported that you took five books to read on your vacation to Martha's Vineyard. I hope that you also found time to thoroughly read this health care legislation.

"I have spent the better part of August traveling my district and discussing the details of this 1,017-page health care bill. The more I review this legislation, the more problems I find. As a physician, I have many ideas and concerns that I would like to share with you.

"We are now in the month of September -- the month in which you proposed at your town hall meeting in Raleigh as a good time to go over the health care legislation with members of Congress 'line-by-line.'

"I am ready and willing to take you up on the pledge you publicly offered to the nation on this important legislation that will affect every American. I look forward to your response and confirmation of a meeting time this month."

I believe he has no intent to honor his promise and sit down with Congressman Roe and hold a serious line by line review of proposed health care legislation. I believe his July 29 statement merely an insincere political gesture. Anything for the Democrats and NOTHING for the Republicans, unless someone has another explanation.
 
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At a town hall meeting in Raleigh, North Carolina on July 29 President Obama said,

"So I just want everybody to know, Congress will have time to read the bill. They will have time to debate the bill. They will have all of August to review the various legislative proposals. When we come back in September, I will be available to answer any question that members of Congress have. If they want to come over to the White House and go over line by line what's going on, I will be happy to do that."

A month ago, Congressman Phil Roe sent him two letters asking him for a time and place to conduct this line by line review. He has not responded to him.

TEXT OF ROE'S SECOND LETTER:

"To follow up on a previous letter I sent in August, accepting your offer to "come over to the White House and go over line-by-line what's going on," I am still waiting for a response about a scheduled time. The day the letter was faxed to the White House, your Press Secretary Robert Gibbs affirmed your willingness to get that done."

"To date, no one from the White House has even suggested a time when we can sit down and go over the health care bill, which you suggested we do at a town hall meeting in Raleigh.

"In August, the media reported that you took five books to read on your vacation to Martha's Vineyard. I hope that you also found time to thoroughly read this health care legislation.

"I have spent the better part of August traveling my district and discussing the details of this 1,017-page health care bill. The more I review this legislation, the more problems I find. As a physician, I have many ideas and concerns that I would like to share with you.

"We are now in the month of September -- the month in which you proposed at your town hall meeting in Raleigh as a good time to go over the health care legislation with members of Congress 'line-by-line.'

"I am ready and willing to take you up on the pledge you publicly offered to the nation on this important legislation that will affect every American. I look forward to your response and confirmation of a meeting time this month."

I believe he has no intent to honor his promise and sit down with Congressman Roe and hold a serious line by line review of proposed health care legislation. I believe his July 29 statement merely an insincere political gesture. Anything for the Democrats and NOTHING for the Republicans, unless someone has another explanation.


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I tend to worry more about the promises that man intends to keep than the ones he just prevaricates about....
 
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I tend to worry more about the promises that man intends to keep than the ones he just prevaricates about....


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I tend to worry more about the promises that man intends to keep than the ones he just prevaricates about....

spot on......... the promises he intends to keep that he hasn't shared with us the people... except maybe his select group of like minded Marxist Professors and radical black groups - you know, the ones he surrounds himself with as a self identifyer.


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You have to remember that the President does not control the Congress. We have separation of power in our system of government. He can propose anything he likes, but it is up to Congress and the leadership to handle the actual legislation.
 
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Damn it, Dave! Don't you realize that by introducing calm rationality to the discussion you totally derail it!? Curse Wink


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You have to remember that the President does not control the Congress. We have separation of power in our system of government. He can propose anything he likes, but it is up to Congress and the leadership to handle the actual legislation.


Irrespective of this particular snip from his speech. When you say something as a fact, especially in his position, you better be ready to back it up.
 
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You have to remember that the President does not control the Congress. We have separation of power in our system of government. He can propose anything he likes, but it is up to Congress and the leadership to handle the actual legislation.

You're right, but that's not exactly comforting these days. What is marginally comforting is that enough Congresscritters smell electoral blood in the coming 2010 abbatoir that they're either deliberately or incidentally constipating the legislative process out of a shared sense of self-preservation. God forbid they should have to eke out a living as used car salesmen....
 
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You have to remember that the President does not control the Congress. We have separation of power in our system of government. He can propose anything he likes, but it is up to Congress and the leadership to handle the actual legislation.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic. Stay on topic or start your own please


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You have to remember that the President does not control the Congress. We have separation of power in our system of government. He can propose anything he likes, but it is up to Congress and the leadership to handle the actual legislation.


You are correct, but that does not negate the statement made by the President. IMHO, the hallmark of an effective leader is the ability to follow through on promises and fulfill obligations. On that score the President has not done particularly well with regard to the health care debate.
 
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God bless Joe Wilson. "You Lie" should now be our battle cry.
 
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You have to remember that the President does not control the Congress. We have separation of power in our system of government. He can propose anything he likes, but it is up to Congress and the leadership to handle the actual legislation.


Then would someone please explain to me why it is that it's always the President's fault when legislation goes bad?

No line item veto means someone can stick their pet project or some ridiculous attachment to a crucial bill and BOOM.. the Pres. gets the blame either way he goes. It's a no win situation IMHO.
 
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The only way that this problem you mentioned above can be solved is that the public be informed on who the person behind the pork is and then find out where they live. Then at 10pm EST, two men dressed in jump suits with gloves on and holding a baseball bat work that person who put the pork in the legislation and go to work on his/her knees. It work in the past and it will work today.
 
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You have to remember that the President does not control the Congress. We have separation of power in our system of government. He can propose anything he likes, but it is up to Congress and the leadership to handle the actual legislation.


Then would someone please explain to me why it is that it's always the President's fault when legislation goes bad?

No line item veto means someone can stick their pet project or some ridiculous attachment to a crucial bill and BOOM.. the Pres. gets the blame either way he goes. It's a no win situation IMHO.



Whatza matter, thats all we heard for the last 8 years, "It's the Presidents fault!"
 
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You have to remember that the President does not control the Congress. We have separation of power in our system of government. He can propose anything he likes, but it is up to Congress and the leadership to handle the actual legislation.
I fully agree Dave. My point is that he made a statement that he would be glad to meet with any member of Congress to go over the health care proposal line by line if anyone wanted. One Congressman wanted and for whatever reason, the President has refused t meet with him. President Obama doesn't control Congress but he does have significant input to his own schedule. If he didn't mean what he said he should not have said it.
 
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You have to remember that the President does not control the Congress. We have separation of power in our system of government. He can propose anything he likes, but it is up to Congress and the leadership to handle the actual legislation.


Then would someone please explain to me why it is that it's always the President's fault when legislation goes bad?

No line item veto means someone can stick their pet project or some ridiculous attachment to a crucial bill and BOOM.. the Pres. gets the blame either way he goes. It's a no win situation IMHO.
I don't believe this thread had anything to do with legislation going bad and the President being blamed. It has to do with him making a offer to any member of COngress and refusing to follow through.
 
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He is not know for his follow through ... just his pontificating...which he is good at...then he gets in line for the White House Cafeteria handouts...along with the rest of the elected politicos...behind the line of offerings is of course the Saudi Royal Family slopping the DC hogs.
 
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He is not know for his follow through ... just his pontificating...which he is good at...then he gets in line for the White House Cafeteria handouts...along with the rest of the elected politicos...behind the line of offerings is of course the Saudi Royal Family slopping the DC hogs.


That's part of his problem and some of the folks that voted for him (not the left wing side but Independents and some republicans that wanted real change) are now seeing, he is in campain mode 24/7. They are tired of seeing him on TV.

I do hope he matures quickly, this country can't afford a President that is AWOL.


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