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Originally posted by ccrosse:
Aside from our resident hawks, who's your favorite? Also, which one would you most like to see strap on some combat boots? Mine:

D i c k Cheney
Hannity
The young Republicans
Toby Keith - although if he's as lousy a soldier as he is a "musician," he can stay on the sidelines and write more garbage.

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Originally posted by ccrosse:
Aside from our resident hawks, who's your favorite? Also, which one would you most like to see strap on some combat boots? Mine:

D i c k Cheney
Hannity
The young Republicans
Toby Keith - although if he's as lousy a soldier as he is a "musician," he can stay on the sidelines and write more garbage.

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Originally posted by machiavellean:
You’re asking the wrong person.

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Chickenhawk: A man who seeks out boys or young men as his sexual partners.

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This conservative has I have no favorite chickenhawk. Chickenhawks aren’t in my flight path. Are they in yours, ccrosse? As far as I know, I’ve never even met one. God willing, I’ll die that way.

Boots? Do chickenhawks have some kind of leather fetish?

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Originally posted by skinman13:

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Originally posted by ccrosse:
Aside from our resident hawks, who's your favorite? Also, which one would you most like to see strap on some combat boots? Mine:

D i c k Cheney
Hannity
The young Republicans
Toby Keith - although if he's as lousy a soldier as he is a "musician," he can stay on the sidelines and write more garbage.

Rush Limbaugh
Ann Coulter

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Originally posted by ccrosse:
I thought he opposed the war from the beginning? If I'm wrong, please tell me.

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Originally posted by Boospar:

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Originally posted by ccrosse:
I thought he opposed the war from the beginning? If I'm wrong, please tell me.

BO wants to command the military, the same military he couldn't be bothered to serve in himself. By current definition, I'd say he qualifies.

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Originally posted by Boospar:

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Originally posted by ccrosse:
I thought he opposed the war from the beginning? If I'm wrong, please tell me.

BO wants to command the military, the same military he couldn't be bothered to serve in himself. By current definition, I'd say he qualifies.

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Karl Rove escaped the draft for nearly three years at the height of the Vietnam War using student deferments....

... on Feb. 17, 1970, Rove was again reclassified, this time as 2-S, a deferment from the draft because of his enrollment at the University of Utah. ...At the time, a full-time student at the university would have had to take 12 hours a quarter. University records show Rove went to school full-time for four of those quarters. But in the autumn and spring quarters of 1971, Rove was a part-time student, registered for between six and 12 credit hours.

Despite the apparent lapse in his full-time status, Rove maintained his deferment.

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Originally posted by liberal90:

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Originally posted by Boospar:

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Originally posted by ccrosse:
I thought he opposed the war from the beginning? If I'm wrong, please tell me.

BO wants to command the military, the same military he couldn't be bothered to serve in himself. By current definition, I'd say he qualifies.

You're aware that, after Washington, the Presidents we've had who have previously been generals have been some of the worst Presidents we've ever had, right?

ed.: I guess Eisenhower was all right too. But Zachary Taylor, Andrew Jackson, and Ulysses S. Grant were all quite bad.

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Originally posted by pickerfromhell:

Twelve presidents were generals: Washington, Jackson, W. Harrison, Taylor, Pierce, A. Johnson, Grant, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, B. Harrison, and Eisenhower.

Grant's administration was not very good. However, his military record and service as a soldier tempers criticism as president.

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Originally posted by liberal90:

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Originally posted by Boospar:

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Originally posted by ccrosse:
I thought he opposed the war from the beginning? If I'm wrong, please tell me.

BO wants to command the military, the same military he couldn't be bothered to serve in himself. By current definition, I'd say he qualifies.

You're aware that, after Washington, the Presidents we've had who have previously been generals have been some of the worst Presidents we've ever had, right?

ed.: I guess Eisenhower was all right too. But Zachary Taylor, Andrew Jackson, and Ulysses S. Grant were all quite bad.

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Originally posted by Berlin93:
Mittens said "NO THANKS: to America's request for him to serve and HE wants to be assistant CinC -- he was a college student and then he was busy converting the heathen French to Mormonism and then he was a student again. He's on the short list to be veep.

Mittens can be your chickenhawk, Boospar.

I'll take Karl Rove. Here's Combat Karl, on Vietnam vets John Kerry and John Murtha:"They may be with you for the first few bullets but they won't be there for the last tough battles."

"Tough Battles" Karl got a student deferment... only thing was, he wasn't a student... he was a PART-TIME student:

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Karl Rove escaped the draft for nearly three years at the height of the Vietnam War using student deferments....

... on Feb. 17, 1970, Rove was again reclassified, this time as 2-S, a deferment from the draft because of his enrollment at the University of Utah. ...At the time, a full-time student at the university would have had to take 12 hours a quarter. University records show Rove went to school full-time for four of those quarters. But in the autumn and spring quarters of 1971, Rove was a part-time student, registered for between six and 12 credit hours.

Despite the apparent lapse in his full-time status, Rove maintained his deferment.

Missionary Mittens is a wonderful example of chickenhawkery but "Tough Battles" Karl is m'main man!!!

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Originally posted by liberal90:

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Originally posted by pickerfromhell:

Twelve presidents were generals: Washington, Jackson, W. Harrison, Taylor, Pierce, A. Johnson, Grant, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, B. Harrison, and Eisenhower.

Grant's administration was not very good. However, his military record and service as a soldier tempers criticism as president.

Pick out the bad ones: Jackson, W.H. Harrison (not really bad, died before he could do anything), Taylor, Pierce, Andrew Johnson, Hayes (this one was really, really terrible), Grant, and Garfield (see W.H. Harrison).

Washington, Benjamin Harrison, Eisenhower, and Chester Arthur were the only decent or better Presidents of the bunch (in my opinion; many people like Andrew Jackson, but even if you moved him into the "good" column it'd still be 7 bad 5 good), and much of a "Top 5 worst Presidents" list would be made up of former generals who became Presidents.


All I'm really saying is that having experience commanding the military is apparently not a particularly good asset to have when becoming President.

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Originally posted by ccrosse:

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Originally posted by skinman13:

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Originally posted by ccrosse:
Aside from our resident hawks, who's your favorite? Also, which one would you most like to see strap on some combat boots? Mine:

D i c k Cheney
Hannity
The young Republicans
Toby Keith - although if he's as lousy a soldier as he is a "musician," he can stay on the sidelines and write more garbage.

Rush Limbaugh
Ann Coulter

How could I have forgotten Baby Huey and that bitter androgynous skagg?