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Military.com Forums Hot Topics & Current Events Point-Counterpoint And what about inalienable rights....|
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Highly Experienced Member |
* Change from inalienable by John Adams So what was the source of these words from Jefferson? |
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Set This World Ablaze |
"All men" is very explicit verbiage.
And sobering during a time of war. |
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Highly Experienced Member |
Google "inalienable rights" and you might be surprised...
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Where are the Carriers? |
They will be decided 5-4. "Thank you, for your support." - Bartles & Jaymes |
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Set This World Ablaze |
Can we deal harshly with our enemies and still uphold our Honor? and the rights of all men |
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Set This World Ablaze |
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Highly Experienced Member |
OK guys, work with me. Many around here might be surprised. Hint: I cannot find it anywhere in our Christian-Judaic history.
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Where are the Carriers? |
Inalienable rights is a construct of the "Founding Fathers".
It's an idea. Everybody knows you can't kill an idea. "Thank you, for your support." - Bartles & Jaymes |
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Submarine Warfare |
Well, he was immediately inspired by his own writings of a few months before that congress, but I know where you're going with this. Let's watch some heads spin.
Woody Allen once said that any man who makes a pun should be 'drawn and quoted.' |
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Where are the Carriers? |
Just for the record: DA/DT works for me.
I have no need to know. "Thank you, for your support." - Bartles & Jaymes |
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If we deprive others of THEIR rights, then we are laying the basis of depriving ourselves of OUR rights. Once rights become subjective, they no longer exist.
Dave |
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Set This World Ablaze |
The term inalienable rights (or unalienable rights) refers to a theoretical set of individual human rights that by their nature cannot be taken away, violated, or transferred from one person to another. They are considered more fundamental than alienable rights, such as rights in a specific piece of property. Inalienable (Individual) Rights are: natural rights, among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They are the most fundamental set of human rights, natural means not-granted nor conditional. They are applicable only to humans, as the basic necessity of their survival. ~Wiki |
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On Warning 14 Sept 08 20 Days Fin |
"All men are created equal, they are endowed by their Creatorwith certain unalienable rights." "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." These are the best parts of the Constitution! Acknowledging the..."Creator" and stating the obvious. You are entitled to Life [protection], Liberty [freedom] and the Pursuit[self determination in obtaining the American dream] of happiness. God bless America!  |
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Highly Experienced Member |
The words come through John Locke....but come from another source. Many would be surprised.
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On Warning 14 Sept 08 20 Days Fin |
Allright, I'll be the first to admit I'm lazy...what source are you referring to? |
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Experienced Member |
Yet these basic tenants were conveniently circumnavigated by declaring some humans as not quite human. |
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More then likely the idea of inalienable rights came from early Islamic law through Edward Pococke, a professor of Islamic studies, to John Locke. |
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On Warning 14 Sept 08 20 Days Fin |
I read that on Wikipidea also...funny...no where else did I see that related information...and I mean on at least a reputable site... |
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On Warning 14 Sept 08 20 Days Fin |
A conservative site justifies your point?
Sorry, I don't agree with the idea of aggreeing with a "conservative" because he is "conservative!" That is what makes this election such a joke! Hillary and Obama disagree about everything. But they will "come together" to get their party in control.  Your point of a conservative thinking we are like Muslims is taken! By the way, I have a bridge to sell ya...cheap! Are ya that gullible...or do you just like posting insognificant crap to get your own point across? |
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Out of what orifice did you pull that idea? I never said anything of the kind. The idea that I am trying to bring out is that Islamic law may have been at the root of our country....in a very indirect way. Still most of our founding fathers were less than what would be now considered "conservative". Now did you read the link? It is discussing the relationship between the state and individual rights, hardly a western notion.... |
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Are you curious as to the Islamic source of this concept? Why would that be suprising. It was Islamic scholars that invented modern mathmatics too. Islam was a very advanced civilization back in the 12th and 13th centuries. |
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I like to fight fire... with gasoline...  |
Bet we can solve the energy crisis with the heads that are spinning now... |
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