This video says it all. Wow is all I can say.

-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWRTYD26Kxc

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Originally posted by floersh:
This video says it all. Wow is all I can say.

-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWRTYD26Kxc

Yea I guess there isn't much to say about this. I certainly doubt anyone is going to defend them. I wonder how often stuff like this actually happens.

Illegal Child Prostitution on taxpayer dollars. Good god..

Now ACORN's lawyers are screaming 'entrapment' and illegal video=taping of the worker... can you imagine the arrogance or stupidity of the lawyers pushing for 5 years imprisonment for exposing this?

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can you imagine the arrogance or stupidity of the lawyers pushing for 5 years imprisonment for exposing this?

Yep, just Google "Mortain Counterattack" and "Falaise Pocket". The lawyers probably never heard of those, and I've got the popcorn ready....

Has it occurred to you that it might be fake?

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:
Has it occurred to you that it might be fake?

Yep. But its not.

I'd say this is good old fashioned corruption. Not politics at the national level. Of course, someone will add 2+2=5 and Obama's name will be mentioned.

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Originally posted by Boots_:
I'd say this is good old fashioned corruption. Not politics at the national level. Of course, someone will add 2+2=5 and Obama's name will be mentioned.

So far your the only one to do so..

Does a fish not rot from the head down...?

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Originally posted by Boots_:
I'd say this is good old fashioned corruption. Not politics at the national level. Of course, someone will add 2+2=5 and Obama's name will be mentioned.

Considering the multiple locations that have been filmed that numbers of arrests for fraud that have take place at various locations around the country it sure looks like corruption at the national level. With the historical links that the organization has to Obama it would be a poor story that did not at some point at least mention his name. To think otherwise suppresses the facts of the situation.

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Originally posted by floersh:

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:
Has it occurred to you that it might be fake?

Yep. But its not.

Maybe, maybe not.

Oh and speaking of mortgage fraud, you do know about the sub-prime mess and what caused it? In my book, mortgage brokers are right up there with lawyers and politicians on the respect chart.

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:

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Originally posted by floersh:

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:
Has it occurred to you that it might be fake?

Yep. But its not.

Maybe, maybe not. Still you also know this is not the same Acorn that gets votes?

Oh and speaking of mortgage fraud, you do know about the sub-prime mess and what caused it? In my book, mortgage brokers are right up there with lawyers and politicians on the respect chart.

It is the same organization, just a different department. Also, and of greater importance, the function is to register voters, not get votes. The latter, while it may be more truthful than you intended it to be, would be quite illegal considering it has been primarily supported by public money. Considering what has just transpired in the Senate, that fraud is repidly coming to an end.

Yes I was wrong. I thought they had separate boards. My bad.

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Considering what has just transpired in the Senate, that fraud is repidly coming to an end.

Oh really? You mean those on wall Street that perpetrated trillions of dollars worth of fraud will be prosecuted?

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:

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Considering what has just transpired in the Senate, that fraud is rapidly coming to an end.

Oh really? You mean those on wall Street that perpetrated trillions of dollars worth of fraud will be prosecuted?

No, apparently the folks on Wall Street bought themselves a better grade of politician.

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Originally posted by adminnco1:

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:

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Considering what has just transpired in the Senate, that fraud is rapidly coming to an end.

Oh really? You mean those on wall Street that perpetrated trillions of dollars worth of fraud will be prosecuted?

No, apparently the folks on Wall Street bought themselves a better grade of politician.

Yes and that makes it Ok when they buy better politicians? Is that your argument?

No wonder our country is on the verge of a break-down.

Stay tune tomorrow for the next never ending episode of video on Acorn which is said to be the best of them all.
I understand it will be shown on Becks program at 1700 hrs. eastern, 1600 hrs. central.

OK we all know by now that ACORN is a corrupt organization that Obama supports and is going to do nothing about it. Can we move on to the next POS organization that Obama believes in and surrounds himself with?

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:

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Originally posted by adminnco1:

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:

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Considering what has just transpired in the Senate, that fraud is rapidly coming to an end.

Oh really? You mean those on wall Street that perpetrated trillions of dollars worth of fraud will be prosecuted?

No, apparently the folks on Wall Street bought themselves a better grade of politician.

Yes and that makes it Ok when they buy better politicians? Is that your argument?

No wonder our country is on the verge of a break-down.

No argument intended slick, just a cynical observation. Do try to get over yourself.

There is nothing to get over.

I see what is going on. Those two at Acorn were promptly fired for what they did. What happened at AIG? They gave those that almost brought down our economy bonuses. Politics aside, that is wrong. My point is that if Acorn did not exist, you guys would create one. Anything to bring down the Obama presidency while paying little attention to things that will bring down our country.

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:
There is nothing to get over.

I see what is going on. Those two at Acorn were promptly fired for what they did. What happened at AIG? They gave those that almost brought down our economy bonuses. Politics aside, that is wrong. My point is that if Acorn did not exist, you guys would create one. Anything to bring down the Obama presidency while paying little attention to things that will bring down our country.

You really need to get with the program. The number now is at least 6, 4 of whom have been fired. Add to that the 11 recently arrested for fraud in Florida as well as the multiple investigations for fraud that are active all over the country and it sure looks like something that the Obama administration may not want to remain affiliated with. As for politics, that's your obession sparky, not mine.

Is it sparky or slick? Please make up your mind.

Let assume it was twenty. Did they kill anyone? Did they defraud anyone out of anything? Let me help you out, no and no. So what do you have? Nothing. I bet Fox could have done the same thing at any major mortgage broker with similar results. So I say bravo Fox. Nice hunting.

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:
There is nothing to get over.

I see what is going on. Those two at Acorn were promptly fired for what they did. What happened at AIG? They gave those that almost brought down our economy bonuses. Politics aside, that is wrong. My point is that if Acorn did not exist, you guys would create one. Anything to bring down the Obama presidency while paying little attention to things that will bring down our country.

I've been beaching about taxpayer dollars going to these banks since the beginning. Way back when Bush and the Dem congress started it. And you know what. I am still against it now that its Obama doing it.

But these sorts of things seem to outrage the left only when its Bush doing it. When Obama gets into power and continues the exact same programs he gets a pass. Are you giving him a pass?

Let me see... KBR employees were responsible for the electrocution deaths of at least 2 soldiers. "Two former KBR electricians described mismanagement, inadequate equipment, and a "good old boy network""

So why hasn't KBR been shut down, and all of it's contracts stopped - pending investigation?

Blackwater...Six former Blackwater guards have been criminally charged in 14 Iraqi civilian deaths.

Why hasn't Blackwater been shut down, and all of it's contracts stopped - pending investigation?

Former employees of ArmorGroup, the private security company that holds a State Department contract to protect the U.S. Embassy in Kabul, stated that that the company has been involved in a number of illegal practices - including enslaving girls brought from China for sex.

Why hasn't it been been shut down, and all of it's contracts stopped - pending investigation?

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Originally posted by floersh:

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:
There is nothing to get over.

I see what is going on. Those two at Acorn were promptly fired for what they did. What happened at AIG? They gave those that almost brought down our economy bonuses. Politics aside, that is wrong. My point is that if Acorn did not exist, you guys would create one. Anything to bring down the Obama presidency while paying little attention to things that will bring down our country.

I've been beaching about taxpayer dollars going to these banks since the beginning. Way back when Bush and the Dem congress started it. And you know what. I am still against it now that its Obama doing it.

But these sorts of things seem to outrage the left only when its Bush doing it. When Obama gets into power and continues the exact same programs he gets a pass. Are you giving him a pass?

I am not giving anyone a pass. We all seem to be blinded and paralyzed by rancor. In the mean time our country is going down the crapper.

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:

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Originally posted by floersh:

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:
There is nothing to get over.

I see what is going on. Those two at Acorn were promptly fired for what they did. What happened at AIG? They gave those that almost brought down our economy bonuses. Politics aside, that is wrong. My point is that if Acorn did not exist, you guys would create one. Anything to bring down the Obama presidency while paying little attention to things that will bring down our country.

I've been beaching about taxpayer dollars going to these banks since the beginning. Way back when Bush and the Dem congress started it. And you know what. I am still against it now that its Obama doing it.

But these sorts of things seem to outrage the left only when its Bush doing it. When Obama gets into power and continues the exact same programs he gets a pass. Are you giving him a pass?

I am not giving anyone a pass. We all seem to be blinded and paralyzed by rancor. In the mean time our country is going down the crapper.

Yes it is... Corruption has destroyed this republic.

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Originally posted by floersh:

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:

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Originally posted by floersh:

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:
There is nothing to get over.

I see what is going on. Those two at Acorn were promptly fired for what they did. What happened at AIG? They gave those that almost brought down our economy bonuses. Politics aside, that is wrong. My point is that if Acorn did not exist, you guys would create one. Anything to bring down the Obama presidency while paying little attention to things that will bring down our country.

I've been beaching about taxpayer dollars going to these banks since the beginning. Way back when Bush and the Dem congress started it. And you know what. I am still against it now that its Obama doing it.

But these sorts of things seem to outrage the left only when its Bush doing it. When Obama gets into power and continues the exact same programs he gets a pass. Are you giving him a pass?

I am not giving anyone a pass. We all seem to be blinded and paralyzed by rancor. In the mean time our country is going down the crapper.

Yes it is... Corruption has destroyed this republic.

I don't know about you, but I am not corrupt. I would also guess you aren't either. Seems to me that we need to start holding these folks accountable and unlike you I don't think it is too late for the republic.

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Originally posted by ColdWarGranny:
Let me see... KBR employees were responsible for the electrocution deaths of at least 2 soldiers. "Two former KBR electricians described mismanagement, inadequate equipment, and a "good old boy network""

So why hasn't KBR been shut down, and all of it's contracts stopped - pending investigation?

Blackwater...Six former Blackwater guards have been criminally charged in 14 Iraqi civilian deaths.

Why hasn't Blackwater been shut down, and all of it's contracts stopped - pending investigation?

Former employees of ArmorGroup, the private security company that holds a State Department contract to protect the U.S. Embassy in Kabul, stated that that the company has been involved in a number of illegal practices - including enslaving girls brought from China for sex.

Why hasn't it been been shut down, and all of it's contracts stopped - pending investigation?

I guess it is just a matter of priorities. The shower deaths are inexcusable.

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Originally posted by SenClaghorn:

I don't know about you, but I am not corrupt. I would also guess you aren't either. Seems to me that we need to start holding these folks accountable and unlike you I don't think it is too late for the republic.

Your right. I view the postings in this and other forums. I see what is being passed off as news within the main stream media. This republic was lost many years ago.

Things like this ACORN video just help illustrate part of the problem. The other is Apathy.

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Originally posted by ColdWarGranny:
Let me see... KBR employees were responsible for the electrocution deaths of at least 2 soldiers. "Two former KBR electricians described mismanagement, inadequate equipment, and a "good old boy network""

So why hasn't KBR been shut down, and all of it's contracts stopped - pending investigation?

Blackwater...Six former Blackwater guards have been criminally charged in 14 Iraqi civilian deaths.

Why hasn't Blackwater been shut down, and all of it's contracts stopped - pending investigation?

Former employees of ArmorGroup, the private security company that holds a State Department contract to protect the U.S. Embassy in Kabul, stated that that the company has been involved in a number of illegal practices - including enslaving girls brought from China for sex.

Why hasn't it been been shut down, and all of it's contracts stopped - pending investigation?

ArmorGroup, the private security company that holds a State Department contract to protect the U.S. Embassy in Kabul didn't get near this much air time on FOX, let alone have daily updates on Beck.



The whistle-blower (a retired British Warrant Officer) appeared before the Commission on Wartime Contracting today and testified that:

Terry Pearson, a 23-year veteran of the British Army who until recently worked for ArmorGroup subcontractor RAI in Kabul, gave the committee a written firsthand account of the lurid conduct shown in the photos:

One night in the summer of 2009, about 2100 hrs, I was approached by a member of Charlie shift, to see if they could use the fire hoses we had at the front gate to mix cement, to fill up swimming pools they were using at their shift party. I called up one of my staff and told them to come and get them, and fill the pools up. It was about 10 minutes later; I decided to go down myself to ensure that these hoses came back. About 30 people were present.

This was the first time I had seen one of [the] Charlie shift parties. The first thing that struck me was they had a metal container in the middle of the road, on which they were burning wooden pallets. The second thought that went through my mind was alcohol and a fire this size, looked very unsafe. Most of people there were wearing underwear, but many were also wearing coconut shell braziers [sic] and coconut shells over their groins, and were for the best part naked. Some were standing there urinating on the ground and on each other.

One person who had apparently run out of urine, took the fire hose from one of my staff and put it between his legs. It was at this stage I realized I had three Afghan nationals standing in the center of all the activity. I told them to get the hose and go back to the front gate. This was the first time I had seen one of these parties, which had been going on since morning. I was annoyed and disgusted [at] the way they were acting and the way some were dressed. I had 3 female third country nationals who worked about 30 ft away from where this was going on, and during the day, there were also about 60-plus Afghans present, two of whom were females.

Pearson says he was forced out by his employer, RAI, for blowing the whistle on the conduct of ArmorGroup personnel. The companies, he told the commission, "had a distorted honor code—Keep Your Mouth Shut." He added, "There was simply no accountability in the system, no matter how outrageous the behavior or contract violations."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/09/embassy-scandal-new-abu-ghraib

There are always going to be ignorant people doing ignorant things in any organization, company, country. It's the selective aspect of how Beck and those like him are quite happy to smear a whole organization for the actions of a few.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=walGPfDm5-0

In the greater scheme of things; which of these stories have caused the greatest loss to the American people.

As far as I know no money changed hands at ACORN and nothing got past the discussion stage. No one died because of incompetence (KBR), wild west shootout mentality (BLACKWATER now XE), and world wide embarrassment to our nation thanks to Abu Ghraib, torture and now these contractor idiots in Kabul.

No way I'm excusing the idiots who worked at ACORN, but as far as I know there is no legal sanctions for being idiots. Any charges been brought yet, against ACORN idiots or idiot guards for that matter?