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The best beer in the world in Leinenkugel Honey Weiss.
Oh, sure, Fat Tire's good... but it's got a ways to go to catch up to Leinie's Honey Weiss. |
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I'm gonna hit that...Does it have a "honey" taste to it? I've been wanting to try mead because it's supposed to have a pronounced honey taste, and I LOVE honey.
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Lowenbrau - Heck, actually anything really German, if yer sitting somewhere in southern Germany drinking it!
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No.
If you have never been to the Kreutzberg Monastary, you have not tried beer. Forget the dog, Beware of Owner |
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The best beer in the world is the one you happen to like most. Fortunately we have a great selection of real ales here - an alternative to all that mass produced coloured chemical rubbish which appeals to uneducated youth drinkers. |
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Varies really...
My current rack is a very good Helles lager from Schlossbrauerei Naabeck. Any decent Bavarian Helles is a hands down winner in my book. For Hefeweisen, my current favorite is Paulaner's Hefe out of Munich, although most Bavarian brewers put out a decent hefe. Brits are lucky to have access to good hand-pulled cask ale. I always have a hand pulled Spitfire or Bombardier when I'm in the UK. The US is getting much better, though. |
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I owe Great Britain my gratitude for turning me on to Bavarian pilsners, Märzens and bocks. If it hadn't been for Scotland, who knows what kind of American swill I would have settled for. And, I'm sorry, but hefeweizens are complete schite; they're the kind of crap people ended up brewing because they didn't have the proper ingredients for making actual (good) beer.
"Ve are all out of ze hops and are running low on ze malt and barley, Karl. Vhat shall ve do?" "Ve shall make ze bier out ov vhatever crappy grains ve have, undt market it to pretentious people zat prefer sitting around talking about ze bier instead of quietly drinking it."  The Scots (Brits in general) absolutely love their oatmeal stout, which tastes about as good as you would expect a homeopathic medicine conjured up by a prehistoric witchdoctor; they also love their ale, which tastes almost like beer but, as Maxwell Smart noted: "Missed it by THAT much." (the flavor is too round, too dull - it has no edge at all... much like Great Britain itself). So, while stationed in Holy Loch, I was compelled to inquire from the bartender - "What else have you got?" It was then that I was introduced to the Paulaners, Hofbraus and Spatens, etc. You can have your piece of crap (top fermented) Weissbiers; people who drink hefeweizens are cut from the same cloth as the type of pompous turds who drone on and on about wine. German lagers are where it's at - they're exactly what you've always been looking for in a beer. I've always noticed at parties and such, where we get a hodgepodge of BYO beer, the people who bring their hefeweizens are always trying to recruit new converts by introducing it to them and then pitching it as the greatest thing since... well, beer. However, while they spend practically all their time talking about how good it is, I can't help but notice that one 12 pack can last a party of 20 people an entire night. Meanwhile, the Paulaner Märzen pints that I was trying to keep hidden in the back of the fridge have been discovered by accident... and two cases of them get quietly wiped out before we can even get the burgers on the grill.  This message has been edited. Last edited by: The_Bonesaw, |
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A couple of small corrections, if I may. Although the Scots may enjoy oatmeal stout, it is not popular throughout the UK as a whole. The Irish stout is made from malted barley, not oatmeal. The Scots, on the other hand, will eat oatmeal with anything. You appear to have misstyped your last sentence. What you clearly meant was: "The flavour is rounded, sophisticated, well developed and complex ... much like the British themselves." Of course, I would not expect a nation brought up on chemical lager to understand or appreciate the complexities of British beer. As Eric Idle said: Why is american beer like making love in a canoe? Because it's ****ing close to water. |
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We have at least one notable exception: Yuengling (America's oldest brewery). They produce, to my knowledge, the only traditional Bavarian lager in the United States. They sell it regionally around State College, Pennsylvania. Good beer... really good beer. |
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He might have a point though, mass produced beer in Britain can be nearly as bad as American chemical gnats pish (John Smith's for example or Banks's) and things were pretty bad until relatively recently unless you happened to live near somewhere like Hook Norton.
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I agree with you about mass-produced beer - I started drinking in the days of Brew XI, Whitbread Trophy etc. Things have definitely improved since those days. I live 24 miles (by road) from Hook Norton, and about a mile from the Wychwood brewery, so life is not so bad! |
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Hobgoblin..............um, N-I-C-E. It's been on special offer in certain supermarkets up here recently - I've swallied about two dozen in past weeks. You know the old joke - the heads of all the major brewery labels meet up at an International Exhibition and go for dinner together. They each order their own brand - a Millers, Coors or Budweiser etc., except the boss of Guinness who has a pepsi. When asked why, he replies..."If you lot are not drinking alcohol, then neither am I" !!! |
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Wychwood had an advert out recently for Hobgoblin. It showed a hobgoblin (naturally) turning to the reader, saying "What's the matter, lager boy, afraid you might taste something?" |
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Makes a change from Special Brew, eh? (Sorry - just couldn't resist an uncalled-for cultural stereotype!) |
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My wife shared a great quote about beer with me:
"If you sent an American beer out to the lab to be tested, they'd write you back and tell you your horse has diabetes." I will echo Yuengling - that is pretty much the only American beer I drink, but I may be biased as it was my "gateway" beer. Bonesaw, are you a Penn Stater like me? |
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I've necked a few ales from the Samuel Adams brewery when in the USA - not bad at all.
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Concur. My personal preference for Domestic. |
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The Wellpark Brewery in Glasgow (Tennent Caledonian) was bought over by the C & C Group (Cantrell & Cochrane) last month. I hear they plan to ditch Tennents Special Brew (9%) because of its association with the down and outs. Does'nt fit the Magners public image obviously. BTW - it's now called Tennents Super Lager, as Tennents Special is a much lower ABV ale. Many punters still refer to it by its older name though. |
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Agreed - you can keep what made Milwaukee famous, I'll have the Boston brew anytime I'm visiting. |
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Sam Adams is a decent beer, to be sure.
Yuengling is slightly better than Budweiser, but is still p*ss. It does not in any sense bear similarities to a good German lager, at least not nowadays. Hefeweizen is not a bad beer, although it is not to be considered in the same context as a lager. It is not a party beer. I enjoy a good Hefe with dinner, or maybe after a long bike ride. A good lager is good anytime, and is also more of a sociable drinking beer. But, liking Hefe does not make one a snob. We all have different tastes. |
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Guiness,the only beer, the rest is all Natty Light.
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Tuborg. It's a danish beer, and a favorite amoug our unit when were deployed in Turkey.
Also, when I was in England, I took a liking to Sterling, I drank the draft. When I come back to the states, all of the beer here is nothing more than p*ss water. |
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You want to try some other stouts as well, Marstons Oyster Stout for example, if you can get it. (By the way American brewed Guinness is a bit wonky - the last time I tried it it was brown  .)Scots, the Class Enemy (Tesco that is) had an offer on a Scottish beer called "Midnight Sun" (with a dash of ginger IIRC) which I quite liked but I can't find it any more, would you happen to know if they've gone out of business? I'll be irked if they have gone the way of the previous Scottish brewed beer I became fond of, Gillespie's stout which I thought was better than Guinness and certainly superior to the execrable Murphy's that Scottish and Newcastle replaced it with. |
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This is totally OT but it gave me a smile: 2 Brits stopped and asked directions to the Rheinbruke. I said "it's about a mile down the road...or do you say kil OM eter or KILO meter?" He says "actually, we say mile". |
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I've never heard of "Midnight Sun" from up here - there is a brewery in Alaska that does that brand though. Gillespies Stout was an S & N product, a defunct brand from one of the brewers that they had taken over years previously, then resurrected. When S & N closed William McEwan's celebrated Fountainbridge brewery closed a few years ago they switched production to the Caledonian brewery in Edinburgh and I believe Gillespies was ditched. If you like stout, keep an eye out for Broughton "Oatmeal Stout" - it's a relatively small brewer from the Borders - but it punts out class ales. BTW - the stuff brewed at the Cally is real quality, the last direct open fired coppers in Scotland, possibly in the UK ? Look out for Deuchars IPA and Caledonian 80 shilling. |
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I think you mean Stella(full name Stella Artois) originally from Belgium ? A very big seller in the UK. |
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Well... it's definitely mead, but I wouldn't say there was a honey aftertaste. |
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No, although I did live in Philadelphia for a couple of years... My brother-in-law went to Penn State but, ironically enough, the first Yuengling I ever had was in Virginia (the BIL was not a beer drinker so he never introduced me to them when I visited him there). As it turns out, my best friend was from PA and I was helping him rebuild his engine. He had just come back from visiting family in PA and brought a couple of case with him. Engine work, naturally leads to ball scratching, sports talk and beer drinking (you know, "man s#!t!") - so he brought over 10 or 12 Yuenglings as a donation for my efforts. I've been a fan of them ever since. |
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I was at a writer's conference a couple of years ago, and the ones who are members of an email listserve thought it might be cool if we had our own brew. There's an oatmeal thing called The Poet, and I told everyone I'd be the tester... so I bought a six pack. One taste... that was it; the rest went in the trash. I think it would take quite a lot to get me to drink another oatmeal beer. We are still without a signature brew for our group. |
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Yeah.... I like Yuengling. Honey Weiss is better, to me.
Lowenbrau doesn't really trip my trigger, either. But, I did love visiting the gasthauses in Germany. Those were some heavy beers, back in the eighties. Two weeks of that stuff and my voice was so thick my wife didn't recognize me on the phone. I'll have to try the Helles lager from Schlossbrauerei Naabeck, if I can get my hands on some. Sounds like a fun experiment. I'll have to remember to try the Spitfire and Bombardier, too... If I ever get over there. All light beers suck. Well, except, if you have to have one, Amstel isn't so bad. |
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