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Originally posted by skinman13:
damn, it's been less than 10 months and Obama hasn't ended the economic depression that took the last president 8 years to create, he hasn't ushered in world peace which took the last administration 8 years of war to subvert, he hasn't shut Guantanamo, he hasn't ended homosexual discrimination, he hasn't managed to get the king of Saudi Arabia or the president of Iran to kiss his feet, and he hasn't been able to dismantle the fear inspired Patriot Act and return full rights to all Americans...and, dammit, we are still loosing young people in a useless war in Iraq...that our last president got us into 7 years ago...

Damn, Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ, he ain't superman after all...

But he is a damn sight better than what we suffered through the past 8 years that got us into this mess in the first place.

It took the conservative Republican Party 12 years to damn near destroy our country, do ya think that it is probably going to take a little longer than 10 f'kn months to get things headed back in the right direction?

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Originally posted by skinman13:
damn, it's been less than 10 months [Curious that George Bush had less than 8 months before 9/11, yet we read for years from the jackasses of this forum how badly Bush performed for "allowing" or even planning the attacks that substandard Clintoon administration defense policies and performance dumped onto the nation. (Can't be looking at terrorists when you're chasing a tubby intern around the desk and defining the meaning of "is.") I wonder when poor widdle BO will ever take charge of his duties, and stop whining about things he said he would fix but obviously is incompetent to accomplish.] and Obama hasn't ended the economic depression that took the last president 8 years to create,[The jackass heroes, Fwank and Dodd and all the enablers who sought easy money for those unqualified to deserve it should be hanged for the pain they created for tens of millions.] he hasn't ushered in world peace [But wonder of wonders, he got a couple guys to drink beer together, after he mouthed off due to his bias against police officers.] which took the last administration 8 years of war to subvert[Yowzah. 9/11 never happened, or if it did , it must be Bush's fault. (These are the same types who claim FDR knew of the Pearl Harbor attack before it occurred.)], he hasn't shut Guantanamo, he hasn't ended homosexual discrimination [There is no homosexual discrimination; there is fair and honest reaction against people who prance into public wanting special endorsement of ways of behavior that they choose and which ignore millenia of wisdom with regard to its perversion.], he hasn't managed to get the king of Saudi Arabia or the president of Iran to kiss his feet,[But he thinks they should, and that is the trouble.] and he hasn't been able to dismantle the fear inspired Patriot Act [He's chosen to maintain almost all provisions, since it is necessary.]and return full rights to all Americans[Rights? Yowzah. The right to get an unpopular heathkontrol measure written by special interests stuffed down Americans' throats. The right to see the nation's defense degraded. The right to see taxes elevated to pay for trasnfers to buy votes from ne'er-do-wells.]...and, dammit, we are still loosing young people in a useless war in Iraq...that our last president got us into 7 years ago...[Not seven years ago; and only with strong bipartisan support from Congress; and a war that turned out to be run well to hand BO and the Iraqis a good enough situation that if it fails, BO shall be rightfully ajudged at fault by objective anfd honest people. If BO cannot handle the job, then he should not have sought it. Enough flaccid excuse-making. Leadership is required from BO, not disreputable dithering delusion.] Those scum who claim the war is useless utterly disgrace the wonderful people who put their lives on the line, since these scum who have fast-forwarded the same Ayers-like tired, trite, disreputable themes from the late 1960s display their conceit, condescension, and elitism, thinking they know better what is proper for the trooperws to do than do the troopers themselves.][/b]

Damn, Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ, he ain't superman after all...[No, he's quite the opposite of He to whom you refer. Only scumbags worthy of no respect demean the religion of others in the manner seen here. But we expect such antics from the losers who endorse socialistic policies and radical polytishuns and their underlying evil ways.]

But he is a damn sight better than what we suffered through the past 8 years that got us into this mess in the first place.[The bubbas voting for change only idiots would want or believe in can't face up to the incompetence of what they voted into office. Either BO changes his idiocy, or the jackasses will be drop-kicked next year.]

It took the conservative Republican Party 12 years to damn near destroy our country, [Huh? 12 years? The jackasses have had the Congress for almost 3 years, and Bush was president only for 8. This is the typical kind of incompetence with numbers that contributes to stupid "analysis" and absurd policies from the jackasses. You cannot trust their calculations: 2 + 2 = 5 for them; emotion over disciplined objectivity. The pachyderms who screwed the pooch were not conservatives; they were collectivists at heart.] do ya think that it is probably going to take a little longer than 10 f'kn months to get things headed back in the right direction?[Really dumb people will continue to delude their simple minds to think BO and the czars and their apparatchiks and their Chi-town Tammany on the Prairie ways remain viable. We the People, the Americans worthy of the designation, obviously reject what BO stands for. See the election results for the meaning they hold. Better yet, ignore them; the change real Americans believe in will occur even stronger next year.]

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Originally posted by skinman13:

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Just more sore loser whining from the far-right.


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Originally posted by ACR26:

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Originally posted by skinman13:

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Just more sore loser whining from the far-right.


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That’s right...go back to sleep.

Don't forget Pres Bush inherited a recession as well. But he reversed his.

I think Pres Obama is doing a great job doing EXACTLY what he said he would do. "I will remake this country"

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Originally posted by skinman13:
...do ya think that it is probably going to take a little longer than 10 f'kn months to get things headed back in the right direction?

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Originally posted by cheapthrills:

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Originally posted by skinman13:
...do ya think that it is probably going to take a little longer than 10 f'kn months to get things headed back in the right direction?

And what direction would that be?? towards Moscow, maybe??

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Originally posted by strobelvets:
How would we rate them on a 10 point scale...regards...

1)Economic successes...recession recovery, unemployment mitigation, market rebounds...

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2)Social successes (Diversity related interests)...National integration of the American identity and values...

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3)International relations. Pursuit of Peace and Commerce.

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4)Domestic tranquility...pursuit of justice, happiness, and economic prosperity for Citizenry...

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Originally posted by skinman13:
damn, it's been less than 10 months and Obama hasn't ended the economic depression that took the last president 8 years to create, he hasn't ushered in world peace which took the last administration 8 years of war to subvert, he hasn't shut Guantanamo, he hasn't ended homosexual discrimination, he hasn't managed to get the king of Saudi Arabia or the president of Iran to kiss his feet, and he hasn't been able to dismantle the fear inspired Patriot Act and return full rights to all Americans...and, dammit, we are still loosing young people in a useless war in Iraq...that our last president got us into 7 years ago...

Damn, Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ, he ain't superman after all...

But he is a damn sight better than what we suffered through the past 8 years that got us into this mess in the first place.

It took the conservative Republican Party 12 years to damn near destroy our country, do ya think that it is probably going to take a little longer than 10 f'kn months to get things headed back in the right direction?

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Originally posted by GRAYMAN:

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Originally posted by skinman13:
damn, it's been less than 10 months and Obama hasn't ended the economic depression that took the last president 8 years to create, he hasn't ushered in world peace which took the last administration 8 years of war to subvert, he hasn't shut Guantanamo, he hasn't ended homosexual discrimination, he hasn't managed to get the king of Saudi Arabia or the president of Iran to kiss his feet, and he hasn't been able to dismantle the fear inspired Patriot Act and return full rights to all Americans...and, dammit, we are still loosing young people in a useless war in Iraq...that our last president got us into 7 years ago...

Damn, Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ, he ain't superman after all...

But he is a damn sight better than what we suffered through the past 8 years that got us into this mess in the first place.

It took the conservative Republican Party 12 years to damn near destroy our country, do ya think that it is probably going to take a little longer than 10 f'kn months to get things headed back in the right direction?

wow, you got it all in there. Blame Bush, BO has only been in office for (enter time) and the republicans are evil. Sounds like you are making excuses. BO is sucking wind right now and you are right, he's only been in office for 10 months. What the he11 is he going to be doing in a year? Or two?

GITMO-still open, and they have no idea when they are going to close it.

DADT-still in force.

Economy-his own VP stated they read it wrong and screwed up. Unemployment kissing 10%m but it wasnt suppose to go over 8.5.

Iraq-staying with GW's plan.

Afghansistan-Hmmm...what to do, what to do? While our guys/gals are getting the crap blown out of them. But you are ok with him not really giving his full measure to the war. Weak.

Patriot Act- still enforced and being used by the very same admin that said it was horrible and never should of been enacted.

I have to give BO props though. He has a hot wife and two very cute daughters.

GRAYMAN

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Originally posted by rb68:
Well it's only 10 months into his Presidency but from where I sit, BO gets a 2 1/2-3 out of 10.Where is the transparency he promised. Did "We The People" sign on to bail-out the banks,own GM and watch BO take his time on Afghanistan troop deployments? The answer is NO!
As a Vietnam Era Veteran,if you gave every single American $1 million dollars to purchase healthcare(Allow insurees to cross state lines for comparison pricing schedules, limited restrictions on insurers to pursue clients across state lines).
This is a lot cheaper than any plan submitted by the House or Senate.
Oh, and by the way. Let's make Senators and House members pay into Social Security and we'll see how fast they fix Social Security.
Aviano'68

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Originally posted by BobApril:

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Originally posted by strobelvets:
How would we rate them on a 10 point scale...regards...

1)Economic successes...recession recovery, unemployment mitigation, market rebounds...

I'd give him a 6. I've said before, I don't think he's done much of anything differently than McCain would have done in this area. What he's done, what Bush did, what McCain would have done, is throw lots of (borrowed) tax dollars into the economy. There would have been differences in exactly who got the cash, but that's not completely relevant to the effects. It's working, slowly. I do wish there'd been more transparency (as promised) on where it went, and more clear evidence of it going towards lasting infrastructure improvements instead of executive wallets.

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2)Social successes (Diversity related interests)...National integration of the American identity and values...

I'll say 3. So far he's mostly talking a good game, and not accomplishing much.

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3)International relations. Pursuit of Peace and Commerce.

An 8. Not sure what, if anything, he's done for trade, but just by not being Bush, he's raised our reputation on the world stage. I'll be interested to see if that lasts, though.

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4)Domestic tranquility...pursuit of justice, happiness, and economic prosperity for Citizenry...

A 2. And that only because of his efforts (when he finally got in the game) to get health insurance reform passed. I frankly think if he had led it strongly from the start, he could have pushed the Democrats into getting it passed shortly after it became obvious the Republicans were more interested in stonewalling than bipartisanship - he wasted a lot of time trying to include them. Much more importantly, he's continued or expanded every one of Bush's most horrible violations of the 4th Amendment and secrecy claims. This is the area I was most hoping to see turned around...and this is the area in which he has been the biggest failure. He still talks a good game, but his actions behind the scenes (his DoJ's positions in court, his work through Jeff Sessions on maintaining the Patriot Act provisions, etc.) show that he is just as authoritarian as his predecessor - and perhaps more dangerous because he's still fooling a few people on the subject.

And he's STILL a better choice than McCain.

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Originally posted by ACR26:
What you seem to miss by your very post is...if McCain was president you would not be so "content".

If McCain was president and this crap was going on I think you would see the republican party split wide open like firewood. Cept, the pro admin would have been the thickness of the bark.