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On Warning 10 days 22Aug2008 S_S |
http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/21656994.html
Expect a Supreme Court challenge as soon as someone is sentenced to be sterilized. Skinner v. State of Oklahoma ruled that sterilization as a punishment only for certain crimes violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. This law would therefore seem to be prohibited by that decision. (crossposted from ITN because ITN doesn't seem to get much traffic after it narrowly avoided closure) |
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This will certainly be ruled as cruel and unusual punishment. Cutting offending bits off of people has never been an acceptable form of punishment in this country. |
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I don't think they are being cut off, only rendered useless.
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OLiver Wendell Holmes in the "Buck" decision (which has not been reversed) said that if the state has the right to ask someone to die for his country then the sate has the right to prevent mentally and physically unfit people from reproducing.
Look up the decision if you don't believe me. |
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Hardly a "first" ... in fact, California, the home of all that is off-the-map liberal (well, discounting Massachusettes) led the way for the rest of the nation ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_castration Further ... it is not irreversible. It is not a "one shot" deal. Here's the CA code:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=p...01000&file=639-653.1 |
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Highly Experienced Member |
The liberals will never allow it. Since they will take control of the federal government next year you can bet this will never see the light of day.
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I like to fight fire... with gasoline... ![]() |
Yeah, 'cause there are no liberals in California... {Chortle} |
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Highly Experienced Member |
IN how many cases has the law been invoked? How many juries have imposed that sentance? I suspect very few if any. Has the law been used in San Francisco? |
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"The day is wasted in which you learn nothing" |
Great! This is long overdue. Other approaches (incarceration, "therapy" and whatever)have all been a wash. I'm sure I recall where casteration had been ordered before but this chemical casteration seems most appropriate. I can't proove it but it was "common knowledge" that GI's were fed salt peter at times for a similar purpose. I would also implant an RF monitor just to keep tabs.
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You see someone disagreeing with you, and you assume they're liberals. I'm a liberal, and I AGREE with this proposal. If some jerk can't keep himself from raping people (possibly including children), then this is the best way to protect society. Personally, I don't think it should be chemical castration. I believe the phrase goes: "Take it off! Take it ALL off!" They mandate that people who commit crimes while drunk must stay sober. They mandate that people who commit vehicular homicide (or even too many speeding tickets) aren't allowed to drive. They mandate that child molesters can't go near schools. If some guy can't keep it in the pants, why does he deserve to keep it? |
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SFW ... hasn't been invoked at all in Louisiana so what are you b**ching about? I don't know what San Francisco has to do with anything. I see them coming and I turn and run the other way. It is only worthy as a measure of left wing lunacy. |
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I like to fight fire... with gasoline... ![]() |
Well, since California has had Chemical Castration laws on the books for TWELVE YEARS, I'd have to say "yes", San Francisco juries have imposed this sentence. It is required of anyone guilty of a second offense. Jesus Freaking Christ folks, JUSTICE is not a partisan issue... |
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Experienced Member |
Ahh, Welcome to La La Land, where every decision is Right vs Left. No need to analyse or think, in La La Land, all of that is replaced with convenient labels. Besides, havn't you noticed that thinking causes headaches? It's a health measure. Dave |
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Experienced Member |
I believe the ACLU has fought this a couple of times and won, they even fought against voluntary sterilization and won, don't know the cases but I'm sure they did. This Louisiana law will go down in flames also.
"I reject your logic and replace it with my own" |
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I believe you are wrong ... and there currently are similar laws in other states as you would know had you read the thread. |
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Experianced Member |
Very misleading. The med doesn't "castrate" men, that implies a permanent loss of male function. As long as the person is on it, thier libdo are decreased. AS soon as they stop the med, they go back to what passes for "normal" for these freaks.
I've seen it happen. AS a hoem care nurse I had to go to a parol office and administer the med. The guy came a couple of time, then disappeared. As soon as the med left his system, I'll bet he went back to stalking little kids again. As an aside note, even surgerical castration will not stop them. They will use thier hands or other objects. It's not about the act itself, but the control. It's obvious tthese deviants are lacking LEAD in thier diets .... My perscription is a high speed lead injection adminitered right between the eyes. |
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Experienced Member |
I've read the thread and you are wrong, when that paticular law is challenged and it is taken on by the ACLU it has been defeated, if some States have it on their books it hasen't been challenged by anyone. "I reject your logic and replace it with my own" |
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Experienced Member |
You're right navy, a couples ounces betwixt the eyes works wonders on the libedo. "I reject your logic and replace it with my own" |
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You are invited to provide examples ... I can't find any instances where chemical castration has been overturned based on anything the ACLU has done. |
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Experienced Member |
I guess you'll just have to look harder huh? "I reject your logic and replace it with my own" |
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