Margaret Sanger must be smiling.

Response to caller 'a serious mistake,' says Planned Parenthood of Idaho
They also criticized The Advocate for trying to discredit employees with recorded phone calls

Planned Parenthood of Idaho officials apologized Wednesday for what they called an employee's "serious mistake" in encouraging a donation aimed at aborting black babies.

They also criticized The Advocate, a right-to-life student magazine at the University of California-Los Angeles, for trying to discredit Planned Parenthood employees in seven states in a series of tape-recorded phone calls last summer.

The call to Idaho came in July to Autumn Kersey, vice president of development and marketing for Planned Parenthood of Idaho.

On the recording provided by The Advocate, an actor portraying a donor said he wanted his money used to eliminate black unborn children because "the less black kids out there the better."

Kersey laughed nervously and said: "Understandable, understandable. ... Excuse my hesitation, this is the first time I've had a donor call and make this kind of request, so I'm excited and want to make sure I don't leave anything out."

On Tuesday, The Advocate released transcripts and audio recordings of this phone call and another to fundraising representatives in Ohio.

The student editor-in-chief of The Advocate said she's not surprised by Planned Parenthood's response and that the unedited recordings speak for themselves. The activist students think Planned Parenthood targets minorities and minority neighborhoods.

On Wednesday, Planned Parenthood of Idaho "firmly and unequivocally" denounced racial bias, admitted making a mistake and said the group had taken corrective action.

"A fundraising employee violated the organization's principles and practices when she appeared to be willing to accept a racially motivated donation," said CEO Rebecca Poedy in a written statement. "We apologize for the manner in which this offensive call was handled. We take full responsibility for the actions of the fundraising staff member who created the impression that racism of any form would be tolerated at Planned Parenthood. We took swift action to ensure that each of our employees understands their responsibility to communicate clearly with donors about the fact that we believe in helping all individuals, regardless of gender, race, or sexual orientation, make informed decisions about their reproductive health care."

A spokeswoman for the organization would not say whether further disciplinary action was taken against Kersey, saying that was a personnel matter.

A longtime anti-abortion activist and conservative lobbyist - Idaho Values Alliance Executive Director Bryan Fischer - called Kersey's response in July reprehensible and said she should have been fired.

"It turns out that blatant racism is alive and well in Idaho, but it's not coming from the Aryan Nation types - it's coming from way-left organizations like Idaho's own Planned Parenthood," Fischer said. "They should have stridently rebuked that donor for being a racist and a bigot and refused to take that money."

The national Planned Parenthood office did not return phone calls Wednesday, but local officials denounced the editor of The Advocate as "a known anti-choice extremist."

"While the actions of our staff member were unacceptable, it's also unacceptable for opponents of abortion to use racist, deceptive tactics to smear Planned Parenthood," Poedy said. "The race-baiting tactics on display in this case are not news 'exposes,' but rather the product of the most cynical form of politicking."

Lila Rose, the UCLA student who led the Planned Parenthood investigation as The Advocate's editor-in-chief, said it is sad that the organization would focus on what the students did.

"They do not change their ways," Rose said. "They attack the whistleblower."

Nationwide, Planned Parenthood received about $902 million in revenue in 2005-06, according to its annual report. Private donations made up about 24 percent, or $212 million.

"It is unacceptable for a nonprofit to accept donations that target specific races," Rose said.

The Advocate is waiting for responses from Idaho and Ohio before releasing recordings from Planned Parenthood organizations in several other states, she said. In the meantime, the magazine is calling for UCLA to cut its ties with Planned Parenthood.

It is legal in Idaho for someone who makes a phone call to secretly tape it.

Listen to the call yourself

Planned Parenthood threatens legal action against UCLA student for reveling their policy of accepting donations that are earmarked to be used only for black babies.

As I understand it from movies and personal experience, the main policy taught to fundraising employees (church, political or other) is to "get the money and promise whatever it takes to get it (but never in writing)".

regards JakobA

Doesn't someone that posts on this board work at Planned Parenthood? Maybe Sweetsuds? Maybe she can elaborate a bit on this topic.

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Originally posted by JakobA_DK:
As I understand it from movies and personal experience, the main policy taught to fundraising employees (church, political or other) is to "get the money and promise whatever it takes to get it (but never in writing)".

regards JakobA

Seems that you worked for some schyty businesses.

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Originally posted by aggie_swife:
Doesn't someone that posts on this board work at Planned Parenthood? Maybe Sweetsuds? Maybe she can elaborate a bit on this topic.

I didn't know that but I would truly be shocked if it was Sweetsuds.

One of the underlying original themes of Planned Parenthood was reducing numbers of births of minority children, especially.

Got some documentation to back that assertion up, RRR?

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Originally posted by JakobA_DK:
As I understand it from movies and personal experience, the main policy taught to fundraising employees (church, political or other) is to "get the money and promise whatever it takes to get it (but never in writing)".

regards JakobA

exactly.I would be impressed if someone had an actual employee of some standing on tape saying such things-low level telemarketer? not so much

and for the record I am not "pro-abortion" and have never availed myself of any of the services of planned parenthood whih in addition to abortions include birth control std screening and routine womens health checkups

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Originally posted by Cider33Alpha:
Got some documentation to back that assertion up, RRR?

Do you know nothing about Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood?

"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."

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exactly.I would be impressed if someone had an actual employee of some standing on tape saying such things-low level telemarketer? not so much

How about Autumn Kersey, vice president of development and marketing for Planned Parenthood of Idaho.

The Advocate didn't call just one place but many in different states and all of them gleefully accepted the racially motivated money.

Besides if the tapes are false wouldn't Planned Parenthood sue for libel? But they are not are they?

So far, we have only YOUR word that "many different states" "gleefully accepted" money with strings attached.

If that's the case, why aren't there more stories? If that's the case, why is Planned Parenthood falling all over itself apologizing for what happened in Idaho - and not, say, nationwide?

Could we (you) be a wee bit, teensy-weensy biased, Opfor?

Margaret Sanger lived in the early part of the 20th century - and her racial views, though repudiated today, were commonplace at the time. PP has long since disavowed those sorts of policies, and you d*mn well know it. Just stirring the pot.

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Originally posted by Cider33Alpha: Got some documentation to back that assertion up, RRR?

Something that proves it is not so? This has come up in this forum before. The racist comments attributed to Sanger and her crowd were demonstrated then. I'm not going back into it at this time. Time to do my two jobs and earn money. If I get time, I'll go back once again to reprove what was then stated.

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Originally posted by Cider33Alpha:
So far, we have only YOUR word that "many different states" "gleefully accepted" money with strings attached.

If that's the case, why aren't there more stories? If that's the case, why is Planned Parenthood falling all over itself apologizing for what happened in Idaho - and not, say, nationwide?

Could we (you) be a wee bit, teensy-weensy biased, Opfor?

Margaret Sanger lived in the early part of the 20th century - and her racial views, though repudiated today, were commonplace at the time. PP has long since disavowed those sorts of policies, and you d*mn well know it. Just stirring the pot.

Oh you truly wound me Cider, after all these years have I ever posted a lie? But fine if you don't want to take my word for it and you don't like the 3 links that I provided. The burden is on you to prove my links false. The tapes are all over the web.

Also Cider, Ms. Margaret Sanger lived till September 1966 and went to her grave without recanting her racist views. She also hated Catholics.

And am I a teensy-weensy biased? Come on Cider. Again you wound me. You act as if you don't know.

Yes I believe that life begins at conception. So yes I am bias. Are trying to say that I can't post something because I'm not for it?

Please don't be so foolish.

So the ball is in your court. Disprove me.

And maybe we are focusing Margaret Sanger too much. Lets look at some of the original Planned Parenthood board members.

Lothrop Stoddard wrote "The Rising Tide of Color against White Supremacy". Mr. Stoddard was a Nazi enthusiast.

Dr. Harry Laughlin spoke of purifying America's human "breeding stock" and purging America's "bad strains."

Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf at a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, warned of the menace posed by the "black" and "yellow" peril.

To these people it didn't matter whether life begins at conception or not.

It was about who they saw as being fit to populate America.

I'd kinda like to know what is the point.

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Originally posted by Absolut_Nick_USN76:
I'd kinda like to know what is the point.

It's that sharp thing at the end.

Did you know that this is the second sting that The Advocate has pulled on Planned Parenthood. The first one the Advocate busted them shielding pedophiles in numerous states in direct defiance of the law.

Check out the References at end. Therein lies the critical documentation for a substantial part of the rationale behind PP.


*Planned Parenthood's Racism
(Information compiled by Lynn K. Murphy, Life Research Institute, June, 1994)

Facts about Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood:
(Though much quoted herein is old, I will show later that Planned
Parenthood today vigorously upholds Sanger's philosophy.)

Margaret Sanger said about her 1939 <Negro Project>, "We do not want
word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and
the minister is the man who can straighten out the idea if it ever
occurs to any of their more rebellious members." [1]

Clarence Gamble, president of the American Eugenics Research
Association, said, "There is a great danger that we will fail because
the Negroes think it a plan for extermination. Hence lets appear to
let the colored run it as we appear to let [the] south do the
conference in Atlanta."[2] Under this policy, Planned Parenthood of
America hired a full-time "Negro Consultant" in 1944.[3]

The entire operation [Sanger's 1939 Negro Project] then was a ruse--a
manipulative attempt to get Blacks to cooperate in their own
elimination.

The project was quite successful. Its genocidal intentions were
carefully camouflaged beneath several layers of condescending
social-service rhetoric and organizational expertise. . . Soon
clinics throughout the South were distributing contraceptives to
Blacks and <Margaret's dream of discouraging "the defective and
diseased elements of humanity' from their 'reckless and irresponsible
swarming and spawning" was at last being fulfilled.>[4]*

In a 1926 speech at Vassar, Sanger said the nation needed to follow
the "drastic immigration laws" of 1924 with methods "to cut down on
the rapid multiplication of the unfit and undesirable at home."[5]

In a March, 1939 letter, Margaret Sanger explained to Frank Boudreau,
director of the Milbank Memorial Fund: ". . . That is not asking or
suggesting a cradle competition between the intelligent and the
ignorant, but a drastic curtailment of the birth rate at the source
of the unfit, the diseased and the incompetent . . . . The birth
control clinics all over the country are doing their utmost to reach
the lower strata [the minorities] of our population . . ."[6]

To stop this "multiplication," Sanger could be harsh. Her book, <The
Pivot of Civilization>, has a chapter called "The Cruelty of
Charity." In it she blasts as "insidiously injurious" programs to
provide "medical and nursing facilities to slum mothers." In other
words, Sanger wanted ethnic cleansing. Instead of helping the poor,
she considered them (particularly Blacks, Hispanics, and Jewish
immigrants) slum dwellers who would soon overrun the boundaries of
their slums and contaminate the better elements of society with their
inferior genes.

Throughout the 200+ pages of <The Pivot of Civilization> Sanger
called for the elimination of human weeds: "for the cessation of
charity, for the segregation of morons, misfits, and maladjusted,"
and for the sterilization of "genetically inferior races."[7] In this
same book she argued that organized attempts to help the poor were
the "surest sign that our civilization has bred, is breeding, and is
perpetuating . . . defectives, delinquents, and dependents."[8]

"Margaret Sanger is responsible, more than anyone else, for keeping
alive international racism. She played the attractive hostess for
racist thinkers all over the world. Organizing the First World
Population Conference in Geneva in 1926, she invited Clarence C.
Little, Edward A. East, Henry Pratt Fairchild, and Raymond
Pearl--all infamous racists."[9]

"In 1932, it [the <Birth Control Review>] outlined *Margaret's 'Plan
for Peace,' calling for coercive sterilization, mandatory
segregation, and rehabilitative concentration camps for all 'disgenic
stocks.'*[10]* In 1933, the <Birth Control Review> published 'Eugenic
Sterilization: An Urgent Need' by Ernst Rudin, who was Hitler's
director of genetic sterilization and a founder of the Nazi Society
for Racial Hygiene.[11] And later that same year, it published an
article by Leon Whitney entitled, 'Selective Sterilization,' which
adamantly praised and defended the Third Reich's racial
programs."[12]

Margaret Sanger and former Planned Parenthood President Alan
Guttmacher were both listed in 1956 as members of the American
Eugenics Society, Inc.

Today, Planned Parenthood vigorously supports Margaret Sanger's philosophies:

In 1992, Planned Parenthood's immediate past president, Faye
Wattleton, won Planned Parenthood's coveted Margaret Sanger Award.
The following is quoted from Planned Parenthood Federation of
America's 1992 Annual Report, page 13: "THE PPFA MARGARET SANGER
AWARD, *<Planned Parenthood's highest honor*>,* was presented in 1992
to former PPFA President Faye Wattleton. Planned Parenthood's
national leader from 1978 until March 1992, Ms. Wattleton exemplified
the courage *<and ideals>* of Margaret Sanger,*PPFA's founder."

Planned Parenthood also has a Margaret Sanger Clinic.


The Racism of Planned Parenthood today:

"A racial analysis of abortion statistics is quite revealing.
According to a Health and Human Services Administration report, as
many as forty-three percent of all abortions are performed on Blacks
and another ten percent on Hispanics.[13] This, despite the fact that
Blacks only make up eleven percent of the total U.S. population and
Hispanics only about eight percent.[14] A National Academy of
Sciences investigation released more conservative--but no less
telling-figures: thirty-two percent of all abortions are performed on
minority mothers."[15]

"During the 1980s when Planned Parenthood shifted its focus from
community-based clinics, it again targeted inner-city minority
neighborhoods.[16] Of the more than one hundred school-based clinics
that have opened nationwide in the last decade, <none> have been at
substantially all-White schools.[17] <None> have been at suburban
middle-class schools. <*All have been at Black, minority, or ethnic
schools.>*"[17]*

Planned Parenthood itself reports[18] that of the 132,314 abortions
it did in 1991, 23.2% were on African Americans, 12.5% were on
Hispanics, and 7% were on other minorities. Thus, the total
abortions on minorities is 42.7%. But minorities comprise only 19.7%
of the U.S. population.[19] Therefore, relative to population
*Planned Parenthood preferred to abort minorities three times[20] as
much as whites.*

"'There is no way you can escape the implications,' argues Black
financial analyst William L. Davis. 'When an organization has a
history of racism, when its literature is openly racist, when its
goals are self-consciously racial, and when its programs invariably
revolve around race, it doesn't take an expert to realize that the
organization is indeed <racist>. *<Really now, how can anyone
believe anything about Planned Parenthood except that it is a hive of
elitist bigotry, prejudice, and bias?*>* Just because the
organization has a smattering of minority staffers in key positions
does nothing to dispel the plain facts.'"[21]

Endnotes:

1. Linda Gordon, <Woman's Body, Woman's Right> (New York: Grossman,
1974, 1976) 332-333. Gordon is a feminist and a strong abortion
supporter.

2. Ibid, 333.

3. Ibid, 353.

4. Margaret Sanger, <The Pivot of Civilization> (New York: Brentano's,
1922) 108.

5. Margaret Sanger, "The Function of Sterilization," speech delivered at
Vassar College, August 5, 1926. Described in Chase, Allan, <The
Legacy of Malthus,> (New York: 1977), 658.

6. Gordon, 359.

7. Margaret Sanger, <The Pivot of Civilization,> 264.

8. Elasah Drogin, <Margaret Sanger, Father of Modern Society> (New Hope
KY: CUL Publications, 1980) 45.

9. Drogin, 109.

10. <Birth Control Review,> April, 1932, 107; See Elasah Drogin,
<Margaret Sanger: Father of Modern Society> (1986), 11-38.

11. <Birth Control Review,> April, 1933, 102.

12. <Birth Control Review,> 17:4, 1933, 85.

13. Allan Chase, <The Legacy of Malthus: The Social Costs of the New
Scientific Racism> (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1977) 411.

14. A.L. Thornton, "U.S. Statistical Survey: A Reanalysis of the 1980
Census Figures for Population Distribution and Composi tion," <
Demographics Today,> March, 1983, 62.

15. Allan Chase, 411.

16. Although Planned Parenthood is a primary instigator in the
School-Based Clinic movement, only rarely does an affiliate become
institutionally involved in their day to day operation.

17. Carl R. de Vries, Benjamin Goldstein, and Linda Evankirov, <Teen
Pregnancy: Crisis, Solution, and Opposition> (Boston: Educational
Software Information Group, 1987), 14; and Roberta Weiner, <Teen
Pregnancy: Impact on the Schools > (Alexandria, VA: Capitol
Publications, 1987).

18. <1992 Service Report,> 1992.

19. <Statistical Abstract of the United States,> 1992, 17.

20. [42.7/(100-42.6)]/[19.7/(100-19.7)] = 3

21. George Grant, <Grand Illusions: The Legacy of Planned Parenthood>
(Brentwood, TN: Wolgemuth & Hyatt, 1984) 98.

PLEASE contrast any/all of these statistics with:

1. Where do most unplanned pregnancies occur?

2. In which demographic groups do most unplanned pregnancies occur?

3. Which areas are the least-accessible in terms of healthcare?

That MIGHT give you some idea about why Planned Parenthood is located where it is, and targets certain populations. Going where the NEED is, is not necessarily racism or genocide ... or did you not get that memo?

BTW, most abortions are sought by women between 25-39 and married. Planned Parenthood exists SPECIFICALLY to provide reproductive CHOICE to those who are least able to afford it. Or is that too "racist" for you?

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I think that you ignore the clear words and intent of the "originators" of PP and their often-deadly philosophy. Some of their history smacks too much of nazi-like attitudes for me.

Prove the words from Sanger were not stated, that the sources cited are wrong.

I am not catagorized as being 'black'. I am normally catagorized as 'white'. I am in the process (slowly) of researching my past and seeing what make up of 'mutt' that I am.

The above notwithstanding, I detest Planned Parenthood for the simple fact that they provide abortions. Doesn't matter to me why, when, or how they do this, nor to whom they do this. I do not support any organization that would willingly kill an unborn human being.

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Originally posted by RRR52:
I think that you ignore the clear words and intent of the "originators" of PP and their often-deadly philosophy. Some of their history smacks too much of nazi-like attitudes for me.

Prove the words from Sanger were not stated, that the sources cited are wrong.

That is not Cider33Alpha point. She accept them. She knows that the history is true and that PP currently and clearly still has racist intents.

But if they can help some 13 year old girl who was impregnated by her 23 year old boyfriend and help her get rid of the responsibility of raising the child and keeping the 23 year boyfriend out of jail and off the sexual predator list then Plan Parenthood is needed.

And PP are in the black and hispanic neighborhoods because, well you know them minorities just can't help themselves. It's in their blood you know. PP is where it is needed.

And as long as they are doing good it doesn't matter to Cider33 one bit that the organization was and is for the extermination of the weeds of humanity.

Pure unadulterated bullscheiss, Opfor, and you damn well know it. Take your gratuitous, slanderous insults about ME and stuff them up your squeaky tight arse.

I don't give a rat's arse what you think of PP, but don't you DARE attack me that way. It's uncalled for, unjustified and flat out untrue. I'll not be holding my breath until you can debate in a civilized manner.

I can't remember any post in nearly seven years on mil.com that's made me so angry. Eat scheiss and die, you cretin.

planned parenthood is worthless just like it's founder was!

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Originally posted by Cider33Alpha:
Pure unadulterated bullscheiss, Opfor, and you damn well know it. Take your gratuitous, slanderous insults about ME and stuff them up your squeaky tight arse.

I don't give a rat's arse what you think of PP, but don't you DARE attack me that way. It's uncalled for, unjustified and flat out untrue. I'll not be holding my breath until you can debate in a civilized manner.

I can't remember any post in nearly seven years on mil.com that's made me so angry. Eat scheiss and die, you cretin.

Tisk tisk tisk.

She's not in the wrong on this one, the insinuations made were very insulting and very much out of line.

I don't see where she deserved to be disrespected in such a manner.

Opfor6 won't be joining the diplomatic corps any time soon.
I stayed away from this thread because quite frankly, I've heard it all before, it's all been refuted before by folk who know more about PP than I (I volunteered for PP), and it's quite clear that people are looking to prove what they want to believe. But the facts are as Cider stated, and unless one wants to open publicly accessible, affordable reproductive health centers that provide a full range of health services including counseling, and get involved in the push for more contraceptive choices and better health care for all, be glad PP is there and feel free to go about one's business.

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Originally posted by Cider33Alpha:
PLEASE contrast any/all of these statistics with:

1. Where do most unplanned pregnancies occur?

2. In which demographic groups do most unplanned pregnancies occur?

3. Which areas are the least-accessible in terms of healthcare?

That MIGHT give you some idea about why Planned Parenthood is located where it is, and targets certain populations. Going where the NEED is, is not necessarily racism or genocide ... or did you not get that memo?

BTW, most abortions are sought by women between 25-39 and married. Planned Parenthood exists SPECIFICALLY to provide reproductive CHOICE to those who are least able to afford it. Or is that too "racist" for you?

So 25-39 year old married women are the poorest women?

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Originally posted by sweetsuds:
Opfor6 won't be joining the diplomatic corps any time soon.
I stayed away from this thread because quite frankly, I've heard it all before, it's all been refuted before by folk who know more about PP than I (I volunteered for PP), and it's quite clear that people are looking to prove what they want to believe. But the facts are as Cider stated, and unless one wants to open publicly accessible, affordable reproductive health centers that provide a full range of health services including counseling, and get involved in the push for more contraceptive choices and better health care for all, be glad PP is there and feel free to go about one's business.

Nothing has been disputed about the founders and mission of what is now Planned Parenthood. So don't lie. If it can be done then do it.

I also find it very interested that a devote Muslim would volenter to work at an abortion mill since Islam is against abortions, sterilizations and only allows birth control if a pregnancy will harm or kill the mother.

Yeah I wonder about you sometimes Suds. But go ahead and prove me wrong.

And you are right about me joining the diplomatic corps but very wrong if you think that I can't be diplomatic when I want to be. It is what I do for a living.

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Originally posted by Boospar:

quote:

Originally posted by Cider33Alpha:
PLEASE contrast any/all of these statistics with:

1. Where do most unplanned pregnancies occur?

2. In which demographic groups do most unplanned pregnancies occur?

3. Which areas are the least-accessible in terms of healthcare?

That MIGHT give you some idea about why Planned Parenthood is located where it is, and targets certain populations. Going where the NEED is, is not necessarily racism or genocide ... or did you not get that memo?

BTW, most abortions are sought by women between 25-39 and married. Planned Parenthood exists SPECIFICALLY to provide reproductive CHOICE to those who are least able to afford it. Or is that too "racist" for you?

So 25-39 year old married women are the poorest women?

Remember Boospar that those statistics come from Planned Parenthood and they have already been busted on how they comply data. And example would be how they council 12 and 13 year old girls to not mention that their boyfriends are adults otherwise they, Planned Parenthood, would have to report the boyfriend to police by law.

Planned Parenthood is a business and makes a tidy profit but they still get idiots to volunteer for free.