It's interesting that even in spite of the significant progress being made in Iraq, the democrats want to withhold the supplemental until President Bush "changes the course." Why change the course when we are winning? The democrats are so vested in defeat, they want to include language in the supplemental that would target a complete withdrawal (surrender and retreat) from Iraq in nine months.

This is just another treasonous attempt to ensure our defeat before the '08 election, so they can blame the defeat on the Bush White House.

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Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) is working with a key appropriator on a strategy to halve the White House’s war-funding request to pressure President Bush into changing course in Iraq.

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“To be defeated rather than succeed — I think that would be a terrible idea,” said Sen. Mel Martinez (R-Fla.).

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Mel Martinez??? Is that your "go to guy" on war advise? The ex Sec of HUD???

Good one! I needed a good laugh.

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Originally posted by dmuhler:
Mel Martinez??? Is that your "go to guy" on war advise? The ex Sec of HUD???

Good one! I needed a good laugh.

You don't think succeeding rather than defeat is good advice? I guess when you're so entrenched in our defeat, the defeatocrat status-quo is the only way to go.

I'll repeat this one time for you Kegler300: Like in the game of chess, there are more than two solutions to the problem that we created in Iraq.

Damnocrapic (and undeniably Soros-funded MoveBowels.org, Daily Kos, looney leftist) non-strategy:

1. Mock the military and every honorable person associated with the war that keeps the islamonazis at bay.

2. Ignore clear improvements in the situation, and hope for a renewed, increased amount of bloodshed. Success for America is anathema to true Damnocraps. When a man earns a Medal of Honor, instead of emphasizing the nobility of the sacrifice he and others like him have made, give the story minimal coverage, if any.

3. The well-being of America now and well into the future is secondary to the more immediate goal of duping those in the electorate who are poorly educated and unaware, so that they will be willing to support the power-ueber alles policies of die Damnocrapische Partei Amerikas.

4. In general, continue to mock the values that enabled this nation to progress to where it is and accomplish what it has. Be especially critical of anything associated with Christianity, never mind that that religion, in particular, has done more to reinforce the underlying ideals of respect for individual dignity and freedom than any other entity. Atheism: the religion of many loons and the opium of the immoral.

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Originally posted by dmuhler:
I'll repeat this one time for you Kegler300: Like in the game of chess, there are more than two solutions to the problem that we created in Iraq.

I'm sure there are several solutions to the war in Iraq, but defunding the troops is not one of the solutions, especially when we are succeeding.

When you try to rein a horse, you don't grab the tail. The purse strings is how it works. They can only threaten ...believe me it is a war of words only. The soldiers will get what they need. Still the first supplemental has already been signed into law, the second should not be needed until the end of the FY. If it is needed before that, the bean counters at the Pentagon should be fired.

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Originally posted by dmuhler:
Mel Martinez??? Is that your "go to guy" on war advise? The ex Sec of HUD???

Good one! I needed a good laugh.

There is no need for a college degree to see that two plus two equals four. The man can still have a grasp of the obvious without being the, as you put it, "go to guy". After all, you have "go to guys" for war posturing on the other side - all that experience, such as Bill Cli... wait, no, he can't be...maybe Nancy Pe...no, I don't see her either...maybe Barbar...no joy there, either. Well, hell, Dave, can you come up with a person on the dems side with all knowledge of military operations (someone who has not been indictable. Let's keep it real. Someone with integrity.)? I am sure drawing a blank.

Flash for you, we didn't create the situation in Iraq. We got involved, but we didn't create it. That guy is dead now.

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Originally posted by PeteCDR:

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Originally posted by dmuhler:
Mel Martinez??? Is that your "go to guy" on war advise? The ex Sec of HUD???

Good one! I needed a good laugh.

There is no need for a college degree to see that two plus two equals four. The man can still have a grasp of the obvious without being the, as you put it, "go to guy". After all, you have "go to guys" for war posturing on the other side - all that experience, such as Bill Cli... wait, no, he can't be...maybe Nancy Pe...no, I don't see her either...maybe Barbar...no joy there, either. Well, hell, Dave, can you come up with a person on the dems side with all knowledge of military operations (someone who has not been indictable. Let's keep it real. Someone with integrity.)? I am sure drawing a blank.

You mean guys that have the same experience GW Bush had? And integrity?

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Originally posted by PeteCDR:
Flash for you, we didn't create the situation in Iraq. We got involved, but we didn't create it. That guy is dead now.

I am pretty sure we created it because we did not like the way it was.

"The democrats are so vested in defeat,....."

Yes indeed they are Master Gunny. They have a BIG problem. What will they have to say on the first Tue in Nov 2008 if things look big time improved in Iraq. If our Soliders & Marines "win" in Iraq the Demos can't win the Prez spot and may well lose the House & Senate.

They are in BIG trouble!

A new bait thread....

Scott,

Could you explaine what a bait / baited thread is? I don't have a clue????????????

Steve

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Originally posted by scwestusmc:
Scott,

Could you explaine what a bait / baited thread is? I don't have a clue????????????

Steve

Ok ok ok...Get out your P/CP 101 Manual Page 33 Paragraph 3 If you have lost the manual? You must report the loss to HQ in San Francisco,CA.Or you can report your loss in person at HQ.Please beware San Francisco is a open and free thinking city.But they do make allowances for closed minded people.So you'll do just fine.Try the cable cars

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Originally posted by scottrj50:

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Originally posted by scwestusmc:
Scott,

Could you explaine what a bait / baited thread is? I don't have a clue????????????

Steve

Ok ok ok...Get out your P/CP 101 Manual Page 33 Paragraph 3 If you have lost the manual? You must report the loss to HQ in San Francisco,CA.Or you can report your loss in person at HQ.Please beware San Francisco is a open and free thinking city.But they do make allowances for closed minded people.So you'll do just fine.Try the cable cars

From his answer I'd have to say he doesn't know either.

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Originally posted by scottrj50:
A new bait thread....

Are you talking about live bait, as opposed to lure bait? Maybe even how to handle bait, or hooking a live bait? Maybe it's bait presentation you're referring to? Oh, oh, I know, I know...it balloons and bobbers...or maybe anchoring! You have made several references to San Francisco you know...you could be one of them there "master" baiters...

The Left= Retreat and appease!

The Right= Let's try to win this sucker to make the world a safer place from unreigned evil!

All one has to do is listen to the Terrorists speak and then listen to the Lefties speak, it is like they are singing the same song!!!

This is a link to mil.com's definition of a bait thread. and I dont think this counts as one.

http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/409192893/m/3880004841001

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Originally posted by scoutsout1:
The Left= Retreat and appease!

The Right= Let's try to win this sucker to make the world a safer place from unreigned evil!

All one has to do is listen to the Terrorists speak and then listen to the Lefties speak, it is like they are singing the same song!!!

appease mmmmm.....

Turkey: Were going to invade Iraq if we want to

Administration: Please don't

Turkey: And what if we do invade and go after those SOB Kurds.What are you going to do?

Administration: Nothing We'll send Condie over for PR of course

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Mel Martinez

he has connections to ex cia agents that live down here... old school guys from the 50s 60s....

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Originally posted by dmuhler:
When you try to rein a horse, you don't grab the tail. The purse strings is how it works. They can only threaten ...believe me it is a war of words only. The soldiers will get what they need. Still the first supplemental has already been signed into law, the second should not be needed until the end of the FY. If it is needed before that, the bean counters at the Pentagon should be fired.

When the "horse" is winning the race, you don't pull back on the reins... now to back to reality. The Dems are trying the same garbage they did with the "partial funding" passed in September by trying to tie up funds for the troops unless the President agrees to their 'cut and run' white flag time table.
You do understand what the phrase "partial funding" means, right? They only passed so much money for so long, that's why the issue is coming up again.
The only way the Democrats can ensure our military defeat in Iraq and Afghanistan is to cut the funding for the troops. Their greatest fears are coming true with the surge working and things starting to go well in Iraq... despite what the media replays or the limp wristed, whining, appeasement apologist Democrats would have sheople in America think... they are counting on what V.I. Lenin use to call 'useful idiots' to parrot their bilge...

Scotty would know from "bait threads"--he is, after all, the "Master Baiter". Cue the "rimshot" and groans already, Sideshow Mel!!!!

Seriously, everything old is new again anyway. So how are the 2007 is 1968 and Hillary's "Baby in Every Pot or Pot for Every Baby (Haight-Ashbury Version) working out--any takers yet...?

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Mel Martinez

he has connections to ex cia agents that live down here... old school guys from the 50s 60s....

He looks sharp in a shark skin suit. Classy ...in a mack the knife sorta way.

He would not be my go to guy.....

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When the "horse" is winning the race, you don't pull back on the reins...

Mom

We already won and Saddam is gone. Let the reins go. As for winning the peace, even the man in charge is not quite as confident as you.....BTW he would be my go to guy, not you nor Mel. But hey, that's just me.

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Originally posted by dmuhler:

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When the "horse" is winning the race, you don't pull back on the reins...

Mom

We already won and Saddam is gone. Let the reins go. As for winning the peace, even the man in charge is not quite as confident as you.....BTW he would be my go to guy, not you nor Mel. But hey, that's just me.

Obviously your knowledge of horse racing and strategy are similarly thin... when its working you don't screw with it. The surge is working, don't handcuff the troops by not giving them the fund necessary for the equipment / ammo / supplies necessary to finish the job.
And if he is your "go to guy" you should be supporting his effort to get the funding needed for the troops instead of applauding the cut and run Democrats trying to tie up that money based on a white flag time table forcing another military victory into a political defeat.

Quite frankly Scarlett I don't care that I'm not your "go to guy", the feelings are quite mutual.

Hate to say it, Dave--but your "go-to guys" should probably get lost....

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don't handcuff the troops by not giving them the fund necessary for the equipment / ammo / supplies necessary to finish the job.

Now that is really funny Mom. The defense budget has money in it, the first supplemental has lots of money in it. Now the FY is only three weeks old with another fifty one weeks to go. You think the soldiers are going without because the second supplemental has not been finished?

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Originally posted by ipw533:
Hate to say it, Dave--but your "go-to guys" should probably get lost....

Gen. David Petraeus is not good enough?

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Originally posted by scoutsout1:
The Left= Retreat and appease!

The Right= Let's try to win this sucker to make the world a safer place from unreigned evil!

All one has to do is listen to the Terrorists speak and then listen to the Lefties speak, it is like they are singing the same song!!!

ba ba ba ba ba BINGO!!! AMAZING....isn't it?