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Juan Cole, President of the Global Americana Institute
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Kinder and gentler... |
Given the current situation in the mid east and alot of our nations fear of muslims, they just don't want some one with a muslim sounding name in the white house.
That's my opinion and you know what they say about opinions |
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"Trust no one... and keep your laser handy!" |
I just want one that can speak well.
It doesn't need to be eloquent; it just needs to not sound like a redneck stereotype of an ancillary character from an episode of The Dukes of Hazard. |
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yup thats true... but Barack Hussein Obama is hardly an American name... that is a middle eastern name... maybe even northern Africa.... |
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Whats in a name? Letters. An Arabic- sounding name, Still Letters.
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am American name is more of a generic name like john\Johnathan sue bob\William pet\peter carol ed\Edward ect... you know common names in America....
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"Scholarly Comedian"![]() |
As an American of German descent, can I still ask any child-bearing relatives to name their next boy Adolf...?
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Super Member |
i dont even have an American name i have an English\Welch names all 3 of them...
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I'd rather be knitting. |
Interesting that you mention Jonathan. It's a Hebrew name, and names like Sarah, Adam, and May are quite common in the Arab world, and originated in the area. William is French and Peter is Greek. We're more of a melting pot than we like to think sometimes. And Bonesaw, you'll do just fine pronouncing the name of our CinC. I sometimes ask people to teach me to pronounce names if they are difficult; no one's ever objected to do so yet.
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"Trust no one... and keep your laser handy!" |
My true name comes from The Isle of Mann, trace it back even further and its roots go back to Germany, before that... who knows? Regardless of that, I'm an American and I'll always be an American. Since America was clearly founded in colonialism (even by Native American Indian standards), the argument is that there truly is NO SUCH THING as an "American" name. We all came from somewhere else. |
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"Scholarly Comedian"![]() |
The other day I had an applicant named Talib. An American Muslim convert who apparently chose the name because it's Arabic for "scholar". As a US Navy vet, I doubt he chose it out of solidarity with the Taliban....
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yes 2 more common names in America.... my greatgrandmother from the 1700s was named sarah.... |
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'One Day at a Time' |
Btw it's Welsh and that explains a lot. 'At the going down of the sun and in the morning. We will remember them.' -Laurence Binyon 1869-1943 |
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"Trust no one... and keep your laser handy!" |
Presidential Name Etymology (a random sampling):
Washington - Originally Wessyngton or De Wessyngton. The name was taken from the place in England where the family originated Adams - Hebrew (uh oh!) - Yiddish for: "Man, earthly, or red". Monroe - Ireland (a mick! No way!) - Monadh Roe or Mont Roe, from the mount on the river Roe, in Ireland. Van Buren - Dutch - From the town of Buren, in Holland. Polk - (a vulgarity) - Derived from the parish of Pollock, in Renfrewshire, Scotland. The name is from the Gaelic Pollag, "a little, pool, pit, or pond," a diminutive of pol, a pool. It is vulgarly pronounced Pock or Polk. Buchanan - A parish in the shire of Sterling, Scotland. The derivation of the name is uncertain. It is probably from the same root as Buchan. Grant - it may be derived from the Saxon, Irish, or French. Garfield - Sax., Garwian, to prepare; German and Dutch, gar, dressed, done, ready prepared, and field, a place where every thing is furnished necessary for an army. Roosevelt - Dutch: topographic name for someone living by an area of uncultivated land overgrown with roses, from Dutch roose + velt ‘open country’. Truman - English (mainly East Midlands): variant spelling of Trueman. Jewish (from Latvia): habitational name for someone from a Latvian village, the Russian name of which is Trumany. Possibly an Americanized spelling of German Trumann, a variant of Trautmann. Eisenhower - Americanized spelling of German Eisenhauer. (Holy smokes! And we put that Nazi in charge of American forces!) Kennedy - From the Gaelic or Celtic words Kean-na-ty; the head of the house, or chief of the clan. Ceannaide signifies also a shopkeeper, a merchant. Reagan - Irish: reduced form of O’Regan, an Anglicized form of Gaelic Ó Ríagáin ‘descendant of Riagán’, a personal name of uncertain origin, perhaps akin to ríodhgach ‘impulsive’, ‘furious’. Clinton - Klint, a promontory, brow of a hill, cape; and ton, a town. Colonel Charles Clinton, the progenitor of the distinguished family of Clinton, and his associate emigrants from Ireland. - - - - - - - - - - - - In tracing these back I noticed one thing: not a single name could be traced back to America; every single one of them (even from the later presidents) could be traced back to Europe, possibly even the ME in the cases of Truman and Adams. Are you sure your problem isn't so much that the name doesn't sound "American" but instead is that it doesn't sound so much - how do I put this? - white? |
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Where are the Carriers? |
What is so difficult about John? "Thank you, for your support." - Bartles & Jaymes |
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"Trust no one... and keep your laser handy!" |
I think you completely missed the context of my post. What I said was: "I wants a preserdent that can talk more gooder." |
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"I'm still a tough old bird!" |
His name nor his race bother me. What he stands for and intends to do....does bother me.
And with that, I'm voting for McCain. |
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I'd rather be knitting. |
Oops- yes, it would be nice to have a leader that can speak the language. |
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So, would you say that Omar Bradley should not have been given an appointment to West Point, given the opportunity to get a Army commission or given a senior command in the United States Army - because "Omar" is a Middle Eastern name - indeed a name originally from northern Africa? If having a "middle eastern name... maybe even northern Africa" is, somehow, a disqualifacation for the Presidency, surely it should be a disqualifacation for an Army commission? |
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Highly Experienced Member Ex-Moderator, Fired For Cause |
Flightdirector - consider the source. Outlaws just babbles.
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I'd rather be knitting. |
Like several other names, Omar is a name that's bounced around the ME. It's Hebrew and Arabic, like Layla, Adam, Sarah, Abraham and several other names.
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