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Originally posted by SSgtRobertMorris:

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Originally posted by rpschnecksr:
I despies gays/lesbians.

That mean you don't want to spy on them, or... what?

I didn't want to point out all the innacuracies in his posts.......

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Originally posted by SSgtRobertMorris:

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Originally posted by rpschnecksr:
I despies gays/lesbians.

That mean you don't want to spy on them, or... what?

No I dont spy on them, I meant that I don't like them at all.

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Originally posted by rpschnecksr:

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Originally posted by SSgtRobertMorris:

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Originally posted by rpschnecksr:
I despies gays/lesbians.

That mean you don't want to spy on them, or... what?

No I dont spy on them, I meant that I don't like them at all.

C'mon, a litte wine, a little Vaseline, couple gallons of cooking oil, who knows where the day may lead?

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What did you get correct? That you can't type? Well we already knew that. You don't know what an innuendo is? Knew that too.
Keep trying to find something else to excuse your erroneous postings on this thread....
And insults will get you nowhere, except maybe a vacation from here. Not that I would notify anyone but they are watching.........

Yea, and we know of your experience in getting booted.

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Originally posted by SSgtRobertMorris:

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Originally posted by rpschnecksr:

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Originally posted by SSgtRobertMorris:

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Originally posted by rpschnecksr:
I despies gays/lesbians.

That mean you don't want to spy on them, or... what?

No I dont spy on them, I meant that I don't like them at all.

C'mon, a litte wine, a little Vaseline, couple gallons of cooking oil, who knows where the day may lead?

Oh, shoot me for wrong word usage. Damn, at least I got the name of the thread correct. Not like mulder69 did.

I wonder how many teenagers will work in meat processing plants and picking vegetables for 5.15 an hour.

I seriously doubt there will be any change in illegal immigration for a long time.

It's too convenient of a problem. No one wants to pay more for the food they pick, that's for sure.

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Originally posted by rpschnecksr:

Oh, shoot me for wrong word usage. Damn, at least I got the name of the thread correct. Not like mulder69 did.

First my name isn't 69, although I do enjoy what you are inferring to with my wife.
Second I NEVER said the title was get rid of all illegal immigrants. That was my response to the topic which is about illegal immigrants leaving a specific state of this country. No where in the topic did the subject of gays/lesbians get mentioned, until you posted your opinion. You are the one who doesn't have a clue.
And my vacation was for all of 2 hours. Due entirely to a cut and paste mistake. And you know all about mistakes as evidenced by your continued ones in your postings.
And the name of the thread is the ONLY thing you've gotten correct for quite some time.

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Originally posted by mmulder67:

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Originally posted by rpschnecksr:

Oh, shoot me for wrong word usage. Damn, at least I got the name of the thread correct. Not like mulder69 did.

First my name isn't 69, although I do enjoy what you are inferring to with my wife.
Second I NEVER said the title was get rid of all illegal immigrants. That was my response to the topic which is about illegal immigrants leaving a specific state of this country. No where in the topic did the subject of gays/lesbians get mentioned, until you posted your opinion. You are the one who doesn't have a clue.
And my vacation was for all of 2 hours. Due entirely to a cut and paste mistake. And you know all about mistakes as evidenced by your continued ones in your postings.
And the name of the thread is the ONLY thing you've gotten correct for quite some time.

Excuse the F out of me Professor Putz.

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Originally posted by rpschnecksr:

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Originally posted by mmulder67:

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Originally posted by rpschnecksr:

Oh, shoot me for wrong word usage. Damn, at least I got the name of the thread correct. Not like mulder69 did.

First my name isn't 69, although I do enjoy what you are inferring to with my wife.
Second I NEVER said the title was get rid of all illegal immigrants. That was my response to the topic which is about illegal immigrants leaving a specific state of this country. No where in the topic did the subject of gays/lesbians get mentioned, until you posted your opinion. You are the one who doesn't have a clue.
And my vacation was for all of 2 hours. Due entirely to a cut and paste mistake. And you know all about mistakes as evidenced by your continued ones in your postings.
And the name of the thread is the ONLY thing you've gotten correct for quite some time.

Excuse the F out of me Professor Putz.

So eloquent.... Simple and to the point. Just like the poster. (simple and pointed)

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Originally posted by tlgjames:
I wonder how many teenagers will work in meat processing plants and picking vegetables for 5.15 an hour.

I seriously doubt there will be any change in illegal immigration for a long time.

It's too convenient of a problem. No one wants to pay more for the food they pick, that's for sure.

You can double the wages and it would only raise the price per head of lettuce a dime.

The reason that they get paid crappy pay is because they accept it and those that are illegal can't do much about it.

The price of oil effects the cost of per unit far more than the cost of labor.

Besides, how can you live with yourself knowing that the person that picked your lettuce was oppressed and cheated.

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Drivers Certificates for the Undocumented, so that all Illinois drivers can be licensed and insured, and all Illinoisans can be safer.
· Permanent Extension of the New Americans Initiative for U.S. citizenship line item, so that legal Illinois immigrants can quickly become Americans.
· A $20 million major new “We Want to Learn English Initiative,” to make Illinois the best state in the nation in assisting immigrants learn English in their communities, at their places of work, school, and worship.

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· For Undocumented Immigrants: Push for Comprehensive Immigration Reform on the Federal level and Drivers Certificates on the State level
· For Green-Card Holders: Target the 417,000+ eligible Legal Permanent Residents through a state-wide, coordinated community outreach and media campaign to shepherd these people into the citizenship pipeline (the New Americans Initiative) Current budget: $3,400,000 a year.
· For Naturalized US Citizens: Register new US citizens to vote in urban, suburban, and targeted downstate communities and turn them out to vote in a coordinated, metropolitan-wide campaign (the New Americans Democracy Project) 2006 budget: $600,000.

Our 2006 New American Democracy Project Results to date:

o 18 New Americans Democracy Fellows, full-time field organizers, have been given intensive training in community organizing, voter registration and GOTV and placed in the following communities:

* Schaumburg/Hanover Park
* Elgin
* Aurora
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o Since January 1st, ICIRR has registered 16,556 people to vote.

o Since January 2004, ICIRR has registered 42,057 people to vote through the Chicago metropolitan area

o In 2005, we trained 105 volunteers in campaign management

o During the New Americans Democracy Project 2006, we have trained and mobilized over 300 volunteers in voter registration and Get Out The Vote skills


***RESULTS, ELECTION DAY 2006***
On November 7, Election Day, we had 15,552 volunteers working on our Get-Out-The-Vote Operation plus 39 lawyers working Election Protection in our 357 precincts.

Our GOTV operations increased turnout in high Latino/Asian/Muslim voter precincts through a sophisticated direct voter contact program including, for our most at-risk voters 1 door-to-door contact, 1 live phone call, 2 follow-up mailings, 1 robo-call the Saturday before E-day, and a complete Election Day contact program including phones, door knocking, and door hangers with polling place information. (Results below as of Nov. 13, still awaiting precinct-by-precinct results from Cook, Dupage, Aurora City, and Will Counties.)

Elgin/Carpentersville (22nd Senate District)

· In the most densely Latino precinct in Elgin, we increased turnout by 91% over the expected turnout. Where only 234 voters were to turnout on Election Day, with our GOTV operation turned out 425 voters to the polls.
· In Carpentersville, there was an overall 4% increase in turnout, with the most densely Latino precincts experiencing between an 11-20% increase.

Melrose Park/Stone Park

· In the most densely Latino precincts of Leyden and Proviso Townships, there was a 9 – 50% increase in turnout over expected vote.

Gage Park/Marquette Park/Pilsen/La Villita

· Chicago wards 13, 14, 15, and 16, where we had 2 Democracy Project Fellows and over 200 volunteers working on Election Day had a dramatic 21% overall increase in turnout over expected vote.
· The the neighborhoods of Pilsen and Little Village, in the precincts we worked there was an overall 18% increase in voter turnout, with many of our priority precincts experiencing between a 9-30% increase. Our top priority precinct in the 22nd ward increased turnout by nearly 100%, almost doubling voter turnout in this historically low voter turnout neighborhood.

Palos Towship

· In 2002, during the last midterm election, only 182 voters turned out in the densely Arab/Muslim precinct of Palos 44. This year we increased it to 326, a 50% increase.

Our New Americans Initiative results to date:

o Outreach: 45,433 people were contacted with information about citizenship and the process. These contacts include phone calls, door-to-door, passing out flyers, among others.

o Toll free number (877-792-1500): From February through December 2005, we have received 28,421 calls from all over Illinois.

o Website: (newamericans-il.org; and the new easier-to-remember urls that lead to the same site: becomeacitizennow.org and, in Spanish, hazteciudadanoahora.org) Since February 2005, 42,638 visits have been made to the website.

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o Since we started operations last February 2005, 15,306 naturalization applications were prepared, screened through the NAI.

o Citizenship Preparation: 325 classes were offered through the NAI.

o Increase in immigrant citizens 2000 -2005:

DuPage County: 61,051 to 91,234 (49.4%)
Lake County: 35,111 to 44,439 (26.6%)
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A Petition
to make English the official language of
the United States of America


http://www.proenglish.org/main/petition.html

http://www.proenglish.org

S.1639
To provide for comprehensive immigration reform and for other purposes. (Placed on Calendar in Senate)



(B) ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL- In addition to the positions authorized under section 5203 of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, as amended by subparagraph (A), during each of the fiscal years 2008 through 2012, the Secretary shall, subject to the availability of appropriations, increase by not less than 200 the number of positions for personnel within the Department assigned to investigate alien smuggling.

(4) RECRUITMENT OF FORMER MILITARY PERSONNEL-

(3) DEPUTY UNITED STATES MARSHALS- In each of the fiscal years 2008 through 2012, the Attorney General shall, subject to the availability of appropriations, increase by not less than 50 the number of positions for full-time active duty Deputy United States Marshals that assist in matters related to immigration.


(A) IN GENERAL- The Commissioner of United States Customs and Border Protection, in conjunction with the Secretary of Defense or a designee of the Secretary of Defense, shall establish a program to actively recruit members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard who have elected to separate from active duty

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Originally posted by Elesso:

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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wow... i guess they do not get to be humans anymore hhhm? no longer "immigrants"... just little brown aliens from Urectum?

[nope they are not immigrants... immigrants come here legally these are criminals that commit more crimes just coming to this country then most Americans will their whole lives... we citizens of this country do not want them...

an "immigrant" is someone who moves from one place to another with the intent to stay. (not to be confused with Nomad).
legal status has nothing to do with the noun given them.

but to claim they are "alien" is to decide they never will belong. they are strange, or they are an annomaly. not unlike your and my ancestors.

Y'all use of the term "illegal alien" is a spiteful way of describing an undocumented immigrant. the words "illegal" and "alien" are words that inspire fear, and anger. (i know it is semantics, but semantics have been used by the worlds greatest Demagogues to turn on a group that the want removed. Toribio de Torquemada used semsntics to get rid of heretics. Benito mussolini and joseph Stalin did too.. and so did that little fellow in Germany that was a friend of theirs... what was his name?

now do not getme wrong.. i am not calling ANYONE here a racist... just stating that OTHER people have used words to commit atrocities and it worries me to see it done in the land of the free and justice...

Let me get this straight...calling unlawful behavior illegal is a no-no because it inspires fear and anger?

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Originally posted by Elesso:

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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wow... i guess they do not get to be humans anymore hhhm? no longer "immigrants"... just little brown aliens from Urectum?

[nope they are not immigrants... immigrants come here legally these are criminals that commit more crimes just coming to this country then most Americans will their whole lives... we citizens of this country do not want them...

an "immigrant" is someone who moves from one place to another with the intent to stay. (not to be confused with Nomad).
legal status has nothing to do with the noun given them.

but to claim they are "alien" is to decide they never will belong. they are strange, or they are an annomaly. not unlike your and my ancestors.

Y'all use of the term "illegal alien" is a spiteful way of describing an undocumented immigrant. the words "illegal" and "alien" are words that inspire fear, and anger. (i know it is semantics, but semantics have been used by the worlds greatest Demagogues to turn on a group that the want removed. Toribio de Torquemada used semsntics to get rid of heretics. Benito mussolini and joseph Stalin did too.. and so did that little fellow in Germany that was a friend of theirs... what was his name?

now do not getme wrong.. i am not calling ANYONE here a racist... just stating that OTHER people have used words to commit atrocities and it worries me to see it done in the land of the free and justice...

You are kidding, right? Just how many of your "immigrants" intend is to stay? If so, why do only one or two members of a family come. Why do they send billions of dollars back to their formaer countries. Because they are just going for a cruise on the gravy boat and will debark as soon as their situation allows. Now, if we start giving them social security benefits, then they will be here for the long haul, after all, that is truly free money to them. Wouldn't that be fantastic.

Now you are complaining that only half the illegals are leaving on their own? Well, the labor laws will effect all illegals equally. So, the other half will be unemployed as well, more would leave than you think given time. The it is time for ICE to get busy. I think you just proved that we actually can get rid of the illegals, Thanks.

OTMs are easy as well. Round them up and pack them in to their countries consulates. Eventually their own countries will ship them back.

To the topic: Ba-bye!

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OTMs are easy as well. Round them up and pack them in to their countries consulates. Eventually their own countries will ship them back.

And let them feed THEIR people while they wait.

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Originally posted by tlgjames:
I wonder how many teenagers will work in meat processing plants and picking vegetables for 5.15 an hour.

I seriously doubt there will be any change in illegal immigration for a long time.

It's too convenient of a problem. No one wants to pay more for the food they pick, that's for sure.

Few, because 5.15 isn't a livable wage. Now if there were a livable wage, some businesses would continue to thrive, and some would fail. The ones that fail would be replaced by businesses with a better plan and execution, in other words businesses that could both pay a livable wage AND thrive. And so, higher paying jobs are created and the quality of life goes up.

In addition, one of the impediments to higher paying and higher quality jobs is higher taxes. Taxes, which go, in part, to pay for the care of illegals. Thusly, any production that an illegal could contribute is squandered because of the illegal's agreement to accept that kind of wage (as well as the employer's agreement to offer it).

Having said that, I'm all for as much legal immigration as possible, as legal immigration allows for a more orderly integration into communities, and gives local economies time and room to adjust accordingly.