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Wondering what the "patriotic" crowd thinks of a massive confederate flag being raised in Florida?
Wasn't the South an enemy of the US? I'm sure w/ the hyper-right-wing users of these forums this post will get the standard rationalizations of why these people turned traitor, but that's ok - the US is a free country. I doubt the Confederate States would have been with their views on slavery. http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-30889 (link to the story) |
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Sure it should be allowed to fly. When I see one flying I know to avoid the person/establishment responsible for its display.
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I'm sure that they appreciate you sparing them the unpleasantness of dealing with you. |
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Never bothered me, so I really don't care
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Yes There's two ways to make a man change what he thinks about you. You can set him on fire, or you can slap him. |
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You know I see that flag as a part of my families heritage. People in my family died under that flag so I respect it and it will always remind me of where I come from. Fly it with pride but not higher than the american flag of course
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Cant really say that bothers me your free to do what you want but so am I. |
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Apparently this posting is a variation of the dreaded “meat puppet”: http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8430006241001/m/7130037781001 |
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That provides the best reason yet for flying one high and visible ... |
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Seems appropriate for a Confederate Veterans' Memorial Park. Much better than the racist idiots who, in the 1950s, decided to incorporate it into their state flags as a symbol of the fight against civil rights. If it hadn't been for those incidents, this flag probably wouldn't be an issue now.
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Yes it should be allowed to fly. It is a part of our history, and many died for that flag. It doesn't mean you are raceist.
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BobApril,it was incorporated before the 1950s in state flags.And yes it should fly in honor of our southern boys that died for it.
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1895 is when the flag of the 15th Alabama division sans stars became the Alabama state flag...and Colonel Oates became Gov. Hmm, I do believe that particular flag beat the 1950's time frame...
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By that logic, the British Union Jack should be removed from the state flag of Hawaii. |
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It should be on the wall in a museum - next to the other historic flags of the defeated enemies of the United States (Nazi flags, Imperial Japanese flags, Spainish flags from the Spanish-American War, English flags from the American Revolution and the War of 1812, Imperial German flags from World War One, etc.)
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40 day warning 30 july NEMESIS |
I'll probably get flamed for this, but "bull-puckey"! This is the "flag" of a foreign country that declared war against the United States. The South lost! Get over it! Should we fly the "rising sun" flag in honor of all the Japanese who served in World War II but then immigrated to the United States? Should we fly the flag of the Reich in honor of all those Germans who fought in World War II, but then immigrated to the United States? Heritage, history my a$$! The "heritage" and "history" is that the Confederacy declared war against our country and lost. This flag deserves the same "honor" as the flag of any of our other vanquished enemies! |
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Sorry, guess that was just Georgia that added it in 1956. The only other one I see is Mississippi, from 1894. |
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There is a slight quirk in consigning the Confederacy to history. Army units that descend from those that served under the Confederate flag may claim battle honors for such service. In these cases the campaign streamer is reversed, gray on top, and engagements such as as Antietam and Bull Run are called Sharpsburg and Manassas. http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/CampaignStreamers/Campaign.htm |
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Short and sweet and correct, Pink! It's astonishing how so many are ignorant of American history. Wait till biggatorc gets here! He still proudly flies it. "Anything easy ain't worth a damn." Woody Hayes (RIP) |
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I was born and raised in the South. I am a life member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. My Great-Great Grandfather, and Great-Great Uncle were both officers in Mississippi regiments. I am proud of my Southern heritage. THAT SAID, it is unfortunate that the White racist organizations, such as the KKK, and the Neo-Nazis, have used the Confederate battle flag as their own personal standard, and in doing so have stolen the very history and heritage that the Confederate flag ONCE proudly stood for. Unfortunately, I have seen too many incidents of racial bigoted hatred under "that flag," to conclude that it no longer stands for the heritage it once did, and therefore, it should permanently go into a museum. I say that with a heavy heart!
It is unfortunate, that the mere sight of that flag will always stir up very intense emotional feelings, and most of them, will be negative! The Klan and the Nazis must always bear the blame for stealing the symbols of Southern heritage, and distorting these symbols for a despised and hateful agenda that they continue to perpetuate. Any Society that would give up a little liberty to gain security will deserve neither and lose both.~~Benjamin Franklin |
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"Anything easy ain't worth a damn." Woody Hayes (RIP) |
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It's simple.
This is the United States of America and you are free to do what you want. However, it should not be flying over government property just as you would not have any foreign flag flying over government property. |
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