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Experienced Member |
Well thank God.
Some folks will have to scramble to get their documentation in order, but it will only be a problem initially. This is a long overdue COMMON SENSE issue. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/28/support-growing...to-register-to-vote/ New legislation being offered in several states aims to make sure people who walk into the nation’s voting booths are, in fact, American citizens. In Missouri, state Rep. Stanley Cox wants a constitutional amendment that would allow the state to require proof of citizenship when people register to vote. “That doesn’t seem like an unreasonable requirement because we certainly don’t want people who are not legal in this country deciding our future,” Cox told FOX News. Missouri is not the only state trying to make it harder for illegals to cast ballots. Right now, 11 states are considering a proof of citizenship law. Back in 2004, Arizona became the first state in the nation to require proof of citizenship when registering to vote. “We have an illegal immigration problem here — that’s what triggers these laws.” said Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Arpaio has made a national reputation cracking down on illegal immigration in Arizona. “Do you think it prevents people from voting? No I don’t. I think it prevents people who are not here legally from voting,” said Jan Brewer, the Arizona secretary of state who says since the bill passed more than 2,000 non-citizens have been bounced from voter rolls. since the bill passed more than 2,000 non-citizens have been bounced from voter rolls. “I think it ensures those honest voters that they have integrity in the process and that’s what they demand and should be delivered to them,” Brewer said. Critics say proof of citizenship also deters legal citizens from voting. “It makes it difficult to vote if you are someone who doesn’t have the documents in hand,” said Claude Piller, a lawyer with Mi Familia Vota, an outreach group that registers new voters in Phoenix. Piller said that getting documents like passports and birth certificates can be a challenge for the poor or elderly. “We believe the impact will primarily be amongst those who never had to prove they were citizens,” Piller said. |
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Peace Through Superior Firepower |
Try cashing a check without showing any ID.
Which is more important, cashing a check or voting? "HOW DARE YOU COME INTO MY HOUSE, YOU SON OF A B----!" Susan Buxton, 66, heard over her granddaughter's 911 call. Arlington, TX 9 Nov. 2005. Aired 10 Nov. 2005, WBAP 820, Mark Davis show. She ended up shooting him in the leg when he tried to take her gun. Good shtuff! |
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Experienced Member |
I agree. Besides, it is completely irresponsible in this day and age to NOT have copies of your birth certificates, etc. available. We had to have copies of birth certificates for my kids to play soccer 15 years ago for pete's sake. |
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fun fact: there is nothing in the US constitution preventing a 7-year-old illegal immigrant from voting
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Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engine intakes. |
...Except the 26th Amendment! |
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DEAD MEAT - Love, Fate |
is there anything that even comes close to allowing it? Forget the dog, Beware of Owner |
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Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engine intakes. |
Oh, and I almost forgot - Section 2 of the 14th Amendment addresses citizenship to vote. Sorry.
"But when the right to vote at any election ... is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States..." |
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Far East Ambassador and Cultural Liason Has Been 4> |
lib90 thinks its ok for illegals to vote, so cut him some slack. He's a world citizen. All these people before were asking for proff non-citizens were voting, well above there are 2000, which is also 2000 citizens that had their vote negated. |
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DEAD MEAT - Love, Fate |
you will probably have someone come in and say there is not proof that those 2000 actually voted. why would they register if they did not intend to vote?
Forget the dog, Beware of Owner |
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During the last election as I stood in line, I took out my ID. When I got to the table, all I was asked was my name and address, no proof of who I was.
I always thought that it was strange that anyone who knew my name and address could vote for me. Of course, I live in heavily democratic Maryland where everything is just peachy. Except the cries of disenfranchised voters from the democrats. I never could figure out who was supposedly disenfranchising them. You should need to provide proof of citizenship to register and proof of who you are to vote. |
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"Sarcastic Member" |
The problem is not the idea, it is the implementation. The only peole who think that voting should not be restricted to adult citiens are either criminals (illegals) or mentally defective. The problem is how to do that without creating an undue burden on legal citizens. So far the proposals I have seen would disenfranchise more citizens than illegals. |
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Experienced Member |
Maybe ... but they sure manage to do it when their food stamps and/or social security/medicare are on the line. Smokescreen. |
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Member |
Yep, it is a smokescreen.
So the ole saying goes. "Vote early and Often."
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Super Member |
yes good idea indeed.... everyone must prove who they are when voting...
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Member |
that's right, there are sections preventing the right to vote from being denied to citizens and those 18 years of age or upwards; there is nothing preventing non-citizens or those below 18 years of age form voting This is how some states allowed women to vote in federal elections before the passage of the 19th Amendment: there was never any language preventing them from doing so. |
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Super Member |
so something that was used for women to vote you want to exploit so illegals can vote??? |
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In this country, anything that is not explicitly prohibited is allowed. |
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I didn't say we should let illegal immigrants vote in federal elections. I said there's nothing stopping a state from allowing them to do so. |
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A bit off-topic...
Wouldn't it be awesome if, instead of focusing on who shouldn't vote, we found a way to get more of the people who ARE allowed to vote to actually get off their arses and...well, VOTE??? Sorry, I'm feeling a bit cynical today. http://elections.gmu.edu/Voter_Turnout_2004.htm |
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