http://tinyurl.com/2j7mdm

Chinese cyberspace hacking includes from Houston. Attacks against Royal Shell, Rolls Royce reported from London.

Uh oh....this could get serious. Anyone else think this is an issue?

quote:

Originally posted by PO1_Kline:
Uh oh....this could get serious. Anyone else think this is an issue?

Very much so. If MI5 takes it seriously there's probably more to it than is said here. I read recently that they were practising shooting down satellites with their old ICBM's. That's pretty scary too. The only thing in our favor is the enormous national debt that we owe them.

Seriously, I think China will eventually be the biggest threat to our national security, followed then of course by “Moose-Limb” terrorist....

"Moose is not threat! Threat is squirrel!"


Boris

A lot of people don't know that the chinese control the opperation of the Panama Canal. They've been moving all over the world as far as economic impact goes. What better way to find out whats going on in the world and infulence it than to be firmly implanted in all the industries.

Just read Sterling Seagraves' "Lords of the Rim". http://www.amazon.com/Lords-Rim-Sterling-Seagrave/dp/03...id=1196916855&sr=1-1
It gives one a whole new outlook on the Chinese.

It was a joke....but I might be the only one around old enough to remember the Rocky and Bullwinkle show.

Back to topic....the Chinese have the capability and the will to use it. This is a scary combination. I know we have the capability, but the political will is sometimes lacking. In my opinion (and it isn't worth much) we as a nation are too worried about our "image" and not worried enough about our interests...

Rocky and Bullwinkle , Yea I remember watching them on Sundays in the 60's . Get out of Sunday school walk with cousin to his house , watch cartoons , cut out cupons (they were good for face value then ) go to store and buy apples or grapes (love to eat fruit). That goes back a ways... Thanks

I tell ya. If the CIA and DIA don't radically revamp their counter-espionage arms soon. The Chinese will be in a position to outmanuver us at sea everytime. Could you imagine being counter-detected at sea by a Chinese wolfpack??? It chills the blood dosen't it. Soon they will have developed their "anti-American" tactics so well that we will lose our military clout in the region... And it just keeps cascading from there.... COME ON CIA! WAKE UP! DO YOUR JOB!

quote:

COME ON CIA! WAKE UP! DO YOUR JOB!

They are too busy shoot'in moo-vees of thems stick'in a cattle prod up Al Kaders bee-hind.

Think I'm getting paranoid? Kent State recently announced major program to bring Chinese students to campus.

Sentencing Story

Engineer Gets 24 Year Sentence For Trying To Steal Navy Secrets

A Chinese-born contractor with Power Paragon was found guilty last May of trying to obtain submarine technology and to illegally export that information to China.

By Thomas Claburn
March 25, 2008
URL: http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206905727

A Chinese-born engineer convicted of conspiring to pass U.S. military secrets to the People's Republic of China was sentenced Monday to 24 years and five months in federal prison.

Chi Mak, 65, of Downey, Calif., was formerly employed by defense contractor Power Paragon. He was found guilty last May of trying to obtain U.S. Navy submarine technology and to illegally export that information to China.

"This lengthy prison sentence ensures that Chi Mak will never again steal American military secrets for the benefit of another nation," U.S. Attorney Thomas P. O'Brien said in a statement. "Chi Mak betrayed the United States and endangered our national security, as well as the brave men and women of our armed forces."

According to the U.S. Department of Justice, an investigation conducted by the FBI and the Naval Criminal Investigative Service found that co-conspirators from the PRC instructed Mak to obtain specific defense information about current and future naval warship systems. Mak was advised to attend seminars to collect sensitive, restricted information discussed there and to compile that information on CD-ROM discs. Mak and his wife, Rebecca Laiwah Chiu, assembled the information on discs and gave the discs to Mak's brother, Tai Mak, whose son, Yui "Billy" Mak, helped encrypt the data on the discs. Officials discovered the discs in October 2005 when Tai Mak and his wife, *** Heung Li, tried to board a flight for China at Los Angeles International Airport.

The co-conspirators in the case all pleaded guilty following Chi Mak's conviction. Tai Mak and Chiu await sentencing in April and May, respectively. Li and Billy Mak were sentenced to time served and now await deportation to China.

Chi Mak's arrest in 2005 heightened concerns about espionage aimed at stealing high-tech secrets. Last November, the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission declared that Chinese espionage represented "the single greatest risk to the security of American technologies."

Two separate arrests announced last month by the Justice Department suggest that risk has not diminished.

Tai Shen Kuo, 58, and Yu Xin Kang, 33, both of New Orleans, and Gregg William Bergersen, 51, of Alexandria, Va., were arrested in February on suspicion of espionage. They're charged with sending classified U.S. government documents and data to the government of China.

In a separate case, former Boeing employee Dongfan "Greg" Chung, 72, of Orange, Calif., was arrested in February for allegedly sending information about the space shuttle, the C-17 military transport plane, and the Delta IV rocket to China.

At the time these arrests were announced, a Justice Department spokesperson suggested that the two cases had some limited connection to the case of Chi Mak.

Has their legal dept. reviewed this? The
last I checked under USC there are still
Chinese limitations.

Will e-mail the following to KSU


30 March 2008/British newspaper
China spy ring eyes UK secrets
By Nigel Nelson
Thousands of Chinese spies are infiltrating Britain in the run-up to the Beijing Olympics.

They are hellbent on stealing scientific, military and industrial secrets in a bid to make China the world's No1 superpower.

The spies are recruited from the 90,000 Chinese who visit Britain each year.

Forty per cent of them are on business and a third are students.

A Whitehall source said: "They are told to hoover up everything they can get their hands on.

"It can be anything from the results of university lab experiments to secret industrial technology."

China's targets include banks, power and water companies, telecom firms and even Parliament.

But Foreign Secretary David Miliband fears any crackdown would upset China and jeopardise trade deals worth £20billion.

Appears KSU will depend on federal security re Chinese students.


Here's another one, but no students involved

Arms analyst admits role in spy ring
He'll aid in probe of 2 N.O. residents Tuesday, April 01, 2008By Bill Walsh
WASHINGTON -- The Pentagon weapons analyst accused in February of passing classified documents to a Chinese agent pleaded guilty Monday and has agreed to help federal authorities build their case against two New Orleans residents at the center of the probe.

Gregg William Bergersen pleaded guilty to a single count of conspiracy to disclose national defense secrets and faces up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. He has already handed over $7,000 in cash -- presumably paid to him in exchange for details of U.S. weapons sales to Taiwan -- along with a black pearl necklace, according to documents filed in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Va.

"This case serves as a reminder that espionage networks are relentless in their efforts to steal our secrets and continue to pose a serious threat to our national security," said Patrick Rowan, acting assistant attorney general for national security.

Advertisement





The guilty plea ramps up the pressure on Tai Shen Kuo, a naturalized U.S. citizen and furniture store owner in New Orleans, who was arrested Feb. 11 and accused of spying for China. Kuo and Yu Xin Kang, a Chinese citizen investigators say was a conduit between Kuo and an unnamed Chinese government official, have been in custody since their arrest. They face life in prison if convicted.

An account of the government's case, signed by Bergersen and filed in court Monday, said the defense analyst believed that Kuo was a Taiwanese businessman seeking contracts to develop the Po Sheng communications system designed to help protect Taiwan from a military incursion from mainland China.

"Bergersen was unaware that Kuo also maintained secret contact with a foreign official of the Peoples' Republic of China to whom Kuo would provide sensitive U.S. government information," the documents said, suggesting why Bergersen was not charged with espionage.

Between March 2007 and the time of the arrests, U.S. government agents tracked Bergersen and Kuo at meetings in Virginia, South Carolina and Las Vegas, where Bergersen acknowledged receiving $3,000 in cash for gambling and show tickets worth $875. At another meeting in July, according to documents, Kuo stuffed $3,000 in Bergersen's shirt pocket before the defense analyst let him see details of five years' worth of planned weapons sales to Taiwan. The papers had jagged edges where Bergersen had snipped off the "classified" markings, court filings said.

Taiwanese and U.S. military officials say they are trying to assess the level of security damage caused by the alleged leaks.

. . . . . . .

I used to live with a man who served on a fast attack and left the navy after 17 years disgruntled and a deep hatred and disgust for the U.S. He works for a large weapon and rocketry company with defense contacts...

So what channels can we use to inform the authorities of a person who is potentially selling secrets to foreign countries and have him investigated?

Perhaps this is what's wrong with large
corporations?

I dealt directly with US military POC's.

What secrets? Many I have looked at are foreign
the problem is how to market them to the US.