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Right now I have my WOFT packet for the Army submitted for selection, in teh mean time I am trying to decide what would be my best alternattive should I not get selected.

I am civilian, and as you might have guessed by my application for WOFT, I do not have a degree. I am 24, and have some credit hours, but would be 2.5 years at a minimum from finishing a 4 year degree (thats maxing out the hours and taking summer classes). I have gotten mixed feedback so far on age requirements, and best routes. Please offer any adive you may have as to best course of action.

I want to fly, but I realize I may have put off my education for too long. My goals are to have a degree and be flying for a living, one way or another. If I cant fly in the military I would still be interested in a career as an officer, and obtaining my pilots license on my own.
 
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Well if your willing to finish your degree go Air Force ROTC for the advance courses. Once your in the program your age shouldn't be a factor as long as you finish on time. There's also the possibilities of checking out your local Army Guard or Reserve with aviation assets.
 
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http://www.afrotc.com/
http://usmilitary.about.com/od...ejoin/ss/afpilot.htm
http://www.learning-to-fly.com/us-air-force.html
http://www.goang.com/

Why don't you take a look at these websites to help you with the information.
I transferred 26 credit hours into university Mar '79 and graduated Dec '81, going full time year-round.
Read the age requirements and take a strong look at the Air Guard, if active duty isn't a necessity. You can eventually make the Guard a full time job.
As far as ROTC goes, you'd have to go four years, since you aren't prior service, so that factors into your age limitations. Talk to the AFROTC recruiting officer at your nearest school. According to the local detachment at University of Louisville, they have had some concerns about recruiting, so prospects could be encouraging for you.
Good luck!


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The AFROTC two-year program, though competitive, is available to all students.

If you have two years or less before DOG, you may be eligible to apply/enroll.

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The AFROTC two-year program, though competitive, is available to all students.

Granted, it clearly specifies that in the AFROTC website, but there's a lot of if's to be considered. To work in the AS100 and AS200 classes, he'd have to forgo some probably needed or core classes to make room for them. It would also require he go half term, since he'd need part of July and or August for summer camp, to make it back for Fall enrollment.
It still boils down to age, and whether he can meet the requirements for pilot training, and if you don't have to rush anything, don't!
Taking Summer School was a b*tch, especially carrying 16 to 18 credit hours. That was equivalent to 32 to 36 regular Term hours. It was intense and you had little time for anything else, except to eat, sleep, study, and go to class.
I did it, so it can be done, but can be to the detriment of your GPA, especially when you're trying to work in those stupid University Requirement courses with your Core and Elective work.


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The AFROTC two-year program, though competitive, is available to all students.

Granted, it clearly specifies that in the AFROTC website, but there's a lot of if's to be considered. To work in the AS100 and AS200 classes, he'd have to forgo some probably needed or core classes to make room for them. It would also require he go half term, since he'd need part of July and or August for summer camp, to make it back for Fall enrollment.
It still boils down to age, and whether he can meet the requirements for pilot training, and if you don't have to rush anything, don't!
Taking Summer School was a b*tch, especially carrying 16 to 18 credit hours. That was equivalent to 32 to 36 regular Term hours. It was intense and you had little time for anything else, except to eat, sleep, study, and go to class.
I did it, so it can be done, but can be to the detriment of your GPA, especially when you're trying to work in those stupid University Requirement courses with your Core and Elective work.


Howdy, Torch.

I believe the 2yr folks attend a six-week FT encampment (vs. the typical four-week) to compensate for the lack of AS100/200 experience.

I don't believe you return to the Det as a POC cadet and take the entry level AFROTC academics to "catch up" -- at least they didn't when I was enrolled.

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I believe the 2yr folks attend a six-week FT encampment (vs. the typical four-week) to compensate for the lack of AS100/200 experience.

If you go to website, under General Requirements/POC, it specifies AS100/AS200, along with a 4-week camp. I assume they have to take the classes prior to that point.


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Yep. That's for the 4-year folks. As a 4-year cadet, you are required to complete both the GMC and POC (plus the 4-week FT encampment).

For those who enter into the 2-year program, they are required to attend a 6-week encampment and complete the AS300 and AS400 academic courses + LLAB (POC).

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Complete a Field TrainingField TrainingFour- or five-week encampment in which cadets receive officership training course

* Four-year Program: four-week Field Training Unit
* Two-year Program: four-week Field Training Unit with AS100Aerospace Studies. Freshman-level course focusing on the structure and missions of Air Force organizations, officership and professionalism. and AS200Aerospace Studies. Sophomore-level course concerned with the beginnings of manned flight and the development of aerospace power in the United States. classes provided in a two-week period immediately preceding Field Training

As it states, they have to attend these classes prior to summer camp. That means someone taking summer classes in the same summer as field training is going to run into a conflict with courses they need to take, if they are trying to complete a 2-year program.
I'll reiterate. If it isn't necessary to cram, go the 4-year route.


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Complete a Field TrainingField TrainingFour- or five-week encampment in which cadets receive officership training course

* Four-year Program: four-week Field Training Unit
* Two-year Program: four-week Field Training Unit with AS100Aerospace Studies. Freshman-level course focusing on the structure and missions of Air Force organizations, officership and professionalism. and AS200Aerospace Studies. Sophomore-level course concerned with the beginnings of manned flight and the development of aerospace power in the United States. classes provided in a two-week period immediately preceding Field Training

As it states, they have to attend these classes prior to summer camp. That means someone taking summer classes in the same summer as field training is going to run into a conflict with courses they need to take, if they are trying to complete a 2-year program.
I'll reiterate. If it isn't necessary to cram, go the 4-year route.


It's a "part" of camp. Camp for the two-year folks runs six weeks. However, in reference to summer school, if the OP winds up in either a first or final camp, he may be able to squeeze in a summer session.

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