My sons in the same boat, as he got in his share of trouble all the while I bailed him out money wize, he's had his papers signed and is now out. I don't understand a couple of things though , if you can help me understand?
He had no paycheck at all given to him while still on base and on restriction,I know they can take some according to the offence but it is illegal to keep it all from him, unless he was in the brigg and or seen the judge, which he did niether of these. He was on restriction for being late to work a couple of times.
And the second problem I see here is when you are let go from the Marines a warrent officer told me that you are given enough money to get you home, or to the place were you sighned up for the Marines. My son got nothing there as well.
I geuss I'm asking who's right and who's wrong here?
I don't want to beleave that the Marines would do this to some one, any one! Especially for just being late to work a few times. I'm not saying that is okay, most definetly it's not, and I gave my son more griping than any boot camp drill sergant could ever do. I use to think so highly of them.(Marines)
So my son has a car in a towing CO's yard costing him as of today 450.00 if he can get it out he will need gas to get from point a to point b, about 13 hundred miles. I have paid his phone bills only so we can know were he is at any given time, but I can't begin to send more money for this as I just don't have it.
He has everything he owns in this car and if he cant get it then he cant get whats in it.
I feel so bad for him, yes he did all this on his own (litterally no help from marines eather)
"sorry" but i think they could have let him leave with a little dignity at least.
He's on the streets like a homeless person only without a bottle in his hands.
Signed worried PMM = Proud Marine Mom...

Are you saying he was discharged because he missed work a couple of times?

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Originally posted by dekeoboe:
Are you saying he was discharged because he missed work a couple of times?

They charged him with art,86 for 3 UA's, when my son started to fight it, they frightened him by saying it would make things worse for him . So he stopped fighting it untill a few days went by , the more he thought about it the more he wanted to fight to stay in. After all he joined on his own because that is what he wants to be is a Marine. Any way when he went with his gutt to fight it , they ( the one in charge of his unit) got him for disobeying a direct order.
Make Sence?

well no he is NOT entitled to a ticket home from the Marines.. he's out he's no longer their responsibility or worry. so no, they do NOT ow him anything as far as getting him home. Only if he had served his time HONORABLY and gotten an Honorable discharge would the Marines have paid his way home.

and going UA not once but THREE times is VERY serious. he probably has a General or Other than Honorable Discharge.

he was in confinement.. just because he wasn't in the brig doesn't mean he was not in major legal trouble. they will also keep his last check due to an audit that must be performed first. they must make sure he was not overpaid for anything or does not owe them money.

So you agree they treat all Marines like this?
Or is he not a Marine any more depending on what the word in front of discharge says.
Yes 3 days is quite serious i agree totally.
Do you know what happened to him the 90 days during his restriction for these 3 days. Do you know if they do this to all them young men that have been on restriction. Would you wait to pay him seriously thinking he might owe you somthing when he made nothing,but worked his butt off during restriction, Do you like the idea of those young men being let out on a street corner , and what do you say to them when you look at each other for the last time on that street corner. I hate to think what now really.
My sons not perfect by all meens. No the Marines don't owe him, that's not what I said eather.
I wrote what I was told by the warrent officer of the same base,, as far as his money is concerned.
<H1>And I told him about the 3 days , the threat, and part of the threat, disobeying a direct order</H1> .
The part that doesn't make sence to me, disobeying. The man wanted him gone, I was able to read that from the beginning.
Remember he signed up on his own, it's what he wanted and still wants, to be a Marine.
He may still have a chance, he finally talked to a lawer today.( What he should have done in the beginning I agree) I don't understand why he wants the hastle of going thru this so he can stay in.
I geuss he saw the good in as many people there as he saw bad. That's all I can think of.
I don't mean to come off harsh, but as a mom no doubt.

I may look harmless but I raised a Marine!

I don't think you are understanding the entire situation. Perhaps your son did not tell you everything that went on at his base.

You might want to consider taking your questions over to the Marine discussion board. They might have some better insight for you.

I think there has to be something missing as well. Getting kicked out because of 3 days UA doesn't sound right. Also, something seems odd about the car situation.

Deke is right, you need to ask Marines..and so is Guru.. you did NOT get the whole story. trust me. UA three times is indicative of a failure to learn from mistakes.

so yes, they DO treat Marines the same way.. if you serve your time honorably and don't fail your fellow Devil Dogs, you are treated with respect. your son did not,and therefore will be treated accordingly.

as for the car, well that is ENTIRELY none of the Marine's Business. they do not get involved with civil matters.

I want to thank you all for putting up with me. I came to this forum actually to see if I could find financial help my son could use, and It looks like I ended up venting. Please accept my apologies.
There may be more to the story, if so it would be my fault probably in the way I explain things.The old mind isn't like it use to be.
So thank you all so much for your input, It is very much appreciated.
XO PMM

I forgot to mention that the car has nothing to do with any of this.
Just the paychecks he did not receave could have been used for it, among other things like gas or food. thats all. Car was used as an example.
xo

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Originally posted by missykia:
I forgot to mention that the car has nothing to do with any of this.
Just the paychecks he did not receave could have been used for it, among other things like gas or food. thats all. Car was used as an example.
xo

Ma'am respectfully, my advice to you would to let him work this out for himself. He is a grown man now( I know you will never agree with this, GRIN) He must learn from his own mistakes. He will get through this based upon his own choices. And whether he makes the right one or the wrong one, he will have made yet again another choice on his own. This is what will develop his character for life. Tell him good luck and that you are praying for the best outcome. Do not Bail him out, PLEASE. Let him learn from this.

Respectfully
Jason Smith

Thank you Jason
That is what I am doing, hard as it may be.
Just pray for him that he gets it sooner than later. Some days It's hard not to give in , then there are days it is very easy not to give in, if you know what I mean. LOL
I told him yesterday I always give him his needs, but he has to provide his wants.
Thanks again
Cathy