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gruntpain1775
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Do you get an overseas ribbon for servise in Iraq along with Campaign medal? No one I have talked to seems to know. Also if I was stationed overseas and go to Iraq do I get another one? Thanks guys
 
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I got one for my time in Alaska, and when I got back from Iraq I had two on my ERB. So I'm assuming the answer is yes.
 
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The Army Overseas Service Ribbon was first issued in August of 1981. It is presented to any member of the United States Army who completes a standard overseas tour of duty. Such tours are normally for two to three years and must be served outside the contiguous United States, including Alaska and Hawaii. In the 11 December 2006 revision of AR 600-8-22 (Military Awards), the Army eliminated the policy which had restricted the awarding of the Overseas Service Ribbon when another campaign or service medal is awarded.

Additional awards of the Army Overseas Service Ribbon are denoted by award numerals. For those Army service members performing overseas duty prior to 1981, the Army Overseas Service Ribbon may be awarded retroactively, provided that a service member was on active duty subsequent to 1981.

http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r600_8_22.pdf
 
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Do you get an overseas ribbon for servise in Iraq along with Campaign medal? No one I have talked to seems to know. Also if I was stationed overseas and go to Iraq do I get another one? Thanks guys


No, an overseas ribbon is only received after completing a tour with a unit that is based overseas, i.e. Germany, Korea, Alaska ect. No units are permanently assigned to Iraq, at least not yet.

Runferet, if I were you I would check to see that your records are correct. You could get dinged on promotion board if this is incorrect. Unless of course you were stationed overseas twice.
 
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In the 11 December 2006 revision of AR 600-8-22 (Military Awards), the Army eliminated the policy which had restricted the awarding of the Overseas Service Ribbon when another campaign or service medal is awarded.
 
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No, an overseas ribbon is only received after completing a tour with a unit that is based overseas, i.e. Germany, Korea, Alaska ect. No units are permanently assigned to Iraq, at least not yet.


NO.......

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Soldiers must be credited with a normal overseas tour completion according to AR 614–30. Service members who have overseas service with another branch of service (USN, USAF, or USMC) must be credited with a normal overseas
tour completion by that service to qualify for award of the Army OSR.


https://www.hrc.army.mil/site/Active/TAGD/awards/faqs.doc

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Question4: How long do I have to serve in Iraq or Afghanistan to be awarded the OSR?
Answer4: Overseas tour credit is outlined in AR 614-30. Provided below is a clarification statement the proponent to AR 614-30 has provided our office:

“Soldiers who serve a minimum of 11 cumulative months in Iraq in a TCS/TDY status get credit for a completed short tour. Your reference is AR 614-30 (23 Sep 04), Table 3-2, rules 5 and 7. Iraq and Afghanistan are considered isolated areas where tour lengths have not been established by DOD; therefore, the Army gives equivalent credit for periods of TCS/TDY. Also, since there is no official established DOD tour length, Soldiers cannot serve in Iraq in PCS status. To determine the overseas tour lengths refer to Table 1, Appendix Q, Joint Federal Travel Regulations (JFTR), Volume 1. You will not find a tour length for Afghanistan or Iraq.”


Appendix Q of the JFTR

that 614-30 is a little old, there is a new one. Check it out, no spoon feeding here.

SFC,

Please Cite regs, not what you think is right.

Thanks.
 
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I'm not sure about Iraq this war, but I got a second overseas ribbon for my deployment in '91. I didn't make it to the theater. It was the big IRR recall during DS/DS. We deployed to Germany after we re-qualified on everything at Benning. Some people down on the awards board said "no way" and argued with me about it a long time ago, but it's a fact.

My first one was for two years in Germany. My second one was for one month in Germany during our IRR recall. Apparently, the Army considered that finishing our tour.

They sent it later on a DD-215, actually: "Overseas Ribbon with a 2 device"

Just a little trivia. There were about 20,000 of us who got it, I'm pretty sure.
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Originally posted by TEX19K40:
No units are permanently assigned to Iraq, at least not yet.


Now this is an interesting point....

So if they conclude a status of forces / basing agreement for Iraq.....being worked on now and to be concluded by the end of this year (2008).

Does that impact the awarding of the campaign ribbons? Does it impact any other ribbons / awards?

I wonder how that works?

Another one for FormerEmbassyMarine.
 
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I would think it would make sense for it to evolve into a Kosovo or a Korea sort of situation. The Kosovo campaign medal in still being awarded, and Korea has it's own defense medal. Makes sense to me anyway.
 
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