How many days of terminal leave can i take? I cant find it in chap. 7 of the Personnel Manual.

thanks in advance.

Because there is no such thing as terminal leave.

It's just leave and if your command approves it you can take all you will have earned and have on the books at your End of Enlistment.

Yes there is terminal leave, I already got out in 2001 got back in 2003. My XPO tried to say there was no such thing. My BM1 showed it to him in the personnel manual. It stated up to 90 days if going to a school. I was given 45 of those 90. I will look it up, and repost exactly where it is in the manual (if I can find it after all these years)

I am still looking for the main paragraph I was shown before, and I will not stop until I find it. I have already found a small sentence about it in CH. 10 clearly stating that it does exist but nothing in detail about it. Also it is an option on the career intentions worksheet.

Ah yes, as usuall, I have to go in and clear up a YN mistake. Please don't take offense FlynnPatrick, but for natebm2, look in CH.12b8, and you will find your answer. It does not specically state the words terminal leave, but that is what everyone refers it too, and that's what they will put it as on the career intentions worksheet.

OK, so the score is

CDR/ISC XO/CWO3/CPO/33 year CG member Flynn: 1
BM2s: 0

It is regular leave and up to the Command to allow it or not. The answer to 'how much leave' will depend on the circumstances.

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Originally posted by natebm2:
How many days of terminal leave can i take? I cant find it in chap. 7 of the Personnel Manual.

thanks in advance.

Read article 12.B.53.c.

Well if there is no such thing as terminal leave, than Topeka needs to take it off their forms: Career Intentions Worksheet

Your right they should. Maybe you could drop them a note.

PSC like HQ should only use proper terms.

The term Terminal Leave is defined as this:

Terminal is regular leave that expires at 2400 on the date of the expiration of enlistment.

As CDR Flynn put it, it is up to the command to approve any amount of leave, as with any amount of time off.

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Your right they should. Maybe you could drop them a note

Naw, I think I'll pass. I know exactly what it is, just like most people do. It's splitting hairs. Kinda like calling Military.com "Freds Place". We all know what it really means.

Mario

My condolences to those on Terminal Leave.

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Originally posted by natebm2:
How many days of terminal leave can i take? I cant find it in chap. 7 of the Personnel Manual.

thanks in advance.

You only take terminal when you retire. With the looks of you screen name, you have less than 20 years. If that's the case, you are authorized 60 days (max leave on book). You can request an Early Release under 12.B.7 or 12.B.8 with your CO's authorization. That would bring you to 90 days. No waivers for anything over 90 days is authorized. Hope that clears some confusion.

There is no such thing as terminal leave. It is earned leave.

BM2, what you described doesn't really have anything to do with "Terminal Leave", per sey. That is a separate, early out program that is offered to certain Coasties under certain conditions (unique job/career opportunity). UnderwayYN has briefly described this program. Both "terminal leave" and early out have to do with separation, but not necessarily one with the other.

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There is no such thing as terminal leave. It is earned leave.

Tell me something XO, do you deny "Terminal Leave" because there is no such thing when you sign a Career Intentions Worksheet? Or do you refuse to sign it because of improper terminology, or do you whip out your green pen to correct PSC?

My guess is, if the "terminal leave" is ok with you, you sign it. That's just my guess however.

Mario

I get out the green pen correct the form and then sign it.

Fair enough. I'm sure you're YN1 is on the ball having PSC correct their errrors. That way you won't have to use the green pen. We all know, however, that can take years. Kinda like the 4170 cluster.

Mario

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Originally posted by UnderwayYN:

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Originally posted by natebm2:
How many days of terminal leave can i take? I cant find it in chap. 7 of the Personnel Manual.

thanks in advance.

You only take terminal when you retire. With the looks of you screen name, you have less than 20 years. If that's the case, you are authorized 60 days (max leave on book). You can request an Early Release under 12.B.7 or 12.B.8 with your CO's authorization. That would bring you to 90 days. No waivers for anything over 90 days is authorized. Hope that clears some confusion.

As I stated in my previous post, Terminal leave is an unofficial term that apparently got it's name from a time way before I joined the military in '94, however, everyone still uses, and it's understood as any leave that is taken (up to the appropriate earned number of days, of course) at the end of a member's career. It does not necessarily have to be at retirement. I was in the Navy from '94 to '98, and I took 20-something days terminal leave when I left my ship. All members are authorized to request it, and it's up to the Command to approve/disapprove it, depending upon if they want to have their unit be short-staffed that one person until the appropriate Personnel Command Department (OPM or EPM) can replace him/her in the normal Assignment year.

knelson3956 it right, I took TERMINAL LEAVE when I first gout out of the CG in 2001. All the other branches still use the term, perhaps we just call it something else.

This is in danger of turning into another "E-10" type discussion. Where everyone discusses something to death which has absolutely no significance or importance whatsoever!

This is definitely a silly "argument". Whether or not the official term is terminal leave, that's what people call it and will most likely continue to call it. How many people still say "BAQ" instead of BAH? Old habits die hard... there are more important policies and such to debate.

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Originally posted by Amber777:
This is definitely a silly "argument". Whether or not the official term is terminal leave, that's what people call it and will most likely continue to call it. How many people still say "BAQ" instead of BAH? Old habits die hard... there are more important policies and such to debate.

But it sure is fun sturring the pot!!!!!

Well, BM2... some of us how real jobs and don't have time to stir the pot. We are too busy taking care of YOU!

I'm done.

What's funny is that I had about 97 days of combined leave and earned compensatory leave when I separated in 2005 and I got paid from Jun 05 until Sep 05. Thank God it wasn't terminal though.

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How many people still say "BAQ" instead of BAH? Old habits die hard...

Try asking about VHA!