I am confused about the amounts titled (DFAS) "VA Waiver" and (VA) "Amount Withheld" .
(Awards: 60% eff 12/17/07; 90% eff 3/25/08; 100% IU eff 3/25/08)
Here are my awards per the VA letters...
Total Award Amount - Amount Withheld - Mo. Entitlement Amount - Payment Start Date
1006 - 267 - 739 - 1/1/08
1735 - 374 - 1361 - 4/1/08
1735 - 0 - 1735 - 5/1/08
LATER DUE TO IU...
2760 - 608 - 2152 - 4/1/08
2760 - 234 - 2526 - 5/1/08
2760 - 0 - 2760 - 8/1/08
My DFAS pay had "VA Waiver" amounts deducted from 6/1/08 thru 10/1/08. These do not total to the VA's Amount withheld.
Now for the part I cannot understand: I recently received a DFAS RAS indicating I would get a one-time amount which turns out to total the five months of "VA Waiver" amounts they withheld. Thus, AF seems to be squaring away it's repayments.
But I am still shorted the amounts the VA retained called "Amount Withheld" for seven months (1/1/08 thru 7/1/08). Am I to expect a one-time payment from VA as well? For some reason, I thought the CRDP back payment would just come from one place.
I am sorry, but I have no answer on this topic. Hopefully one of the other moderators or members can help.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dave_M,
I wish I could help, but like Dave, it's something that I have no expertise in.
If we can't get you an answer in the next couple of days and it was my pay, I would, get everything together and call VA and DFAS. If that didn't help I would be knocking on my congressman's door.
When you get it solved, and I'm sure you will, please come back and let us know how they computed it. This question may well come up again and it would be nice to have some answers.
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Concurrent Retirement and Disability Payments (CRDP) restores retired pay on a graduated 10-year schedule for retirees with a 50 to 90 percent VA-rated disability. Concurrent retirement payments increase 10 percent per year through 2013. Veterans rated 100 percent disabled by VA are entitled to full CRDP without being phased in. Veterans receiving benefits at the 100 percent rate due to individual unemployability are entitled to full CRDP in 2009.
Eligibility: To qualify, veterans must also meet all three of the following criteria:
1. Have 20 or more years of active duty, or full-time National Guard duty, or be a reservist age 60, or
2. Be in a retired status.
3. Be receiving retired pay (must be offset by VA payments).
Retirees do not need to apply for this benefit. Payment is coordinated between VA and the Department of Defense (DoD) or DFAS.
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Movrshakr, I will try my best. First of all, we have been on a phase in of the CRDP, then on Oct 1,08 the 100% IU, started getting full retired pay and back pay to the time you started getting 100% IU, or all the way back to Jan 2005 for the ones who have been getting 100% IU that long.
So this would explain the difference from 6/1/08 thru 10/1/08.
The RAS indicating you would get a one-time amount is the back CRDP payments that I talked about above.
Your last statement about still shorted from 1/1/08 thru 7/1/08. I am not for sure on this one, you may get back pay from the VA. A lot of people have received back pay from both the VA and DFAS.
You should have no VA Waiver after Oct 1, 08.
If you still have questions, please come on back with them. I will do my best to answer them.
This has been some very complicated stuff with increases in the process also.
May God richly bless and keep you.
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As I indicated in my original post, the DFAS "VA Waiver" pay is apparently on the way to me based of the RAS I received. What I am interested in is the reductions of the "Total Award Amount" by the "Amount Withheld."
I am not really interested in the phase in computations, only in the final state I should end up at--and that, I think, is: I should end up eventually with ALL USAF pay (now seemingly solved) and ALL VA disability compensation (still short by the total of the amounts withheld (267 for three months and 234 for four months).
I guess part of my question was answered by the person who said some people =do= get CRDP? deposits from both their service AND from the VA. Still don't know if I am ultimately to be one of the "some" who do. Actually, I am frustrated that it can't be said definitively, if you had "Amounts Withheld" from VA pay and otherwise meet the percentage and 20-year requirements (I do), you will eventually receive the withheld amounts in a catch up payment from the VA. Or that: you will not get it if x,y,z.
You are correct on the above statement.
I guess you will just have to wait and see if you get any of the money from the VA as back pay.
OK the Total Award Amount is reduced by the Amount Withheld because of the phase in period. If you will check your RAS for Oct 08 you will note that you are receiving your full retired pay and your full VA.
You can be thankful that you were not around in 2003 to 2006 when we were trying to prove that indeed the government did owe back pay. Payments were received from both DFAS and the VA.
I think you will eventually receive the back pay from the VA. I can not be 100% sure. The cases are just too complicated.
I was paying my full VA since 93 since my retired pay is more than my VA. By the way, you will not received more in CRDP that your retired pay if less than VA or your VA if your retired pay is more than your VA. I know it sounds like double talk if you are not really into the process.
You can call the VA and DFAS and ask about these amounts of you feel you should still receive.
Here is the Link for the Concurrent Receipt Thread:
This is the last page of it, you can read up as much as you wish to, it is now up to 44 pages.
Any more questions, let me know.
May God richly bless and keep you.
In His Service,
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