Damn Yale, what a night! Did you ever find out what caused the engine to fail? Fuel control sounds failure sounds about right. I am doing NVG autos tomorrow night with a pilot needing refresher tng. I will be thinking about your story for sure.

No they like to keep us in the dark. (pun intended)

lol, that they do.

The engine failure was because of the HMU was malfunctioning and venting fuel. HMU was replaced and the aircraft is FFD.

Tell me is any of you have heard of this one:

The #1 hydraulic pump is in the green on preflight. The aircraft is flown and on post flight the pump is still ok. The next morning, the pump is low, in the red, but not empty. There is no trace of fluid on the ramp or on the deck. Nobody can figure out where the fluid went.

On the next flight, the person who preflighted noticed the main module transmission fluid level is high. The CE added no fluid during the daily. The pump is again really low. The studio audience is stumped.

The reason: The #1 pump had a bad seal at the shaft, allowing hydraulic fluid to seep past the seal and into the accessory module, thereby raising the fluid level in the main mod. The pump was replaced and problem solved, main mod drained and flushed, the fluid red with the hydraulic fluid contamination.

I been flying these things since 1991 and never heard of that one.

Had another one last night. RSP placed the #2 into lockout. Went to idle 3 times trying to get it out of lockout, no luck. Had to shut down the engine and restart to fix the problem. Bad microswitch I think. I am flying old birds.

I had the same problem about two years ago...flying as a general's pilot in Korea. AC had a VERY faint fly detent on the # 1 PCL. We were on our GO's pad at Red Cloud at idle, GO shows up and my PI takes the PCLs to fly. #1 sure as **** goes into lockout. I tried resetting it three times and was about to cancel the mission (with the general talking to me on the ICS the entire time--he flew regularly, so he was wondering what was up). My CE (obviously smarter than me) says "Sir, what about turning the Gens off, then back on".

I bought the beers for the next weekend.

ok that confused me. im trying to correlate generators to lockout

Torque motor takes electrical inputs from the ECU and transforms them into mechanical inputs in the HMU. ECU lockout is bypassing the torque motor inputs via taking the PAS beyond that fly detent. When resetting by going back to the idle detent, you are giving control back to the torque motor (which uses electrical signals from the ECU).

Somewhere in that reset (in my case), some switch connected to that torque motor didn't want to reset and make the torque motor do its job again. Removing airframe power caused that switch to do a "power-on reset" and start behaving normally.

Correlating it--hmmm...not something you will normally see (I've heard of more possible instances of dual rollback than I have of this as an example). Probably wouldn't have even troubleshooted as far as I did (non MTP), except that I was about to not meet mission. Got an AC that will not reset ECU lockout...taking power away and then reapplying MIGHT help you. Then again it might not. Stars have to align for this situation to happen anyways--lockout was not intentional in my particular case. Now that I do take ECU to lockout for training, haven't seen it since.

About as best as I can explain it...an ME could probably do it justice, but it is beyond my scope.

I did not even think about that approach. Interesting. I will try that if it ever happens to me again. Thanks!
V.

Heck V, I was just "chatting" prior to that...Yale had to go and make me go think all hard about it and stuff ( Yale).

At the time, I wouldn't necessarily have called it an "approach". More of a "what else can we legally do so that the old man isn't stranded here on the pad with us since WE took the aircraft to lockout...hey, flip that switch and see what happens!" Ouch

Well I completed the Blackhawk course last night and flew my last flight at Fort Rucker. So even they think I can fly this thing I still have to stick around another 9 weeks or so waiting on SERE -C and BOLC 3B. And still have no idea where I'm going.

Congratulations yale. Too bad about your orders, I met a guy last week who got his and his classes after nights but he said he had to bug them daily. Maybe they count on that time at the end of training. Gonna be different when us new guys who did SERE on the front side start filtering through.

By the way I've been concentrating on chpts. 2,5,8, and 9. What else should I focus on to help me when I start next month?

Salty

UUUHHH, TC 1-237 (1000 series tasks/conditions/standards), AR 95-1, FM 3-04.203, FM 3-04.240, FM 3-04.301, etc....
Also look at chapters 1,3,4,6 and 7 in your -10.

Well, last night, our first up crew was conducting a run up when one of the NRCM reported fuel leaking vicinity of the transmission drip pan (aircraft at fly on the ground). Stop work/shut down happened immediately, but she caught on fire. Class A / pretty much a total loss of her (transmission/rotor system is pretty much sitting on the carousel/floor of the aircraft). Can't speculate on the reasons, etc because 1) Safety Investigation Team inbound from Rucker 2) hate Monday morning QBs.

Will say that we were VERY lucky that the AC was on the ground when she caught--still had some singed eyebrows...can only imagine the possibilities if they had been at altitude trying to get down. It was quick!!!

One less UH/HH-60 up here at Wainwright.

Holy crap!!! I am glad nobody got hurt, never heard of that particular problem. Please let us know what the cause was if you find out. I am just glad you guys we not hurt too badly.

Will do--pics and all after they come out with their findings, etc. Never heard of such a catastrophic failure concerning fuel during run-up either.

Icarian, saw the hawk today. Glad no one was hurt. Maybe you guys should stop playing with fire. First the hanger. Now the aircraft. Its only funny cause no one got hurt and you guys are pyros.

PSU,

Don't think that hasn't gone through our minds We still have a couple guys around from that event...definitely went through their heads.

Believe the AN-124 just left from Hangar 1 (kinda dark)...bunch of noise so I stepped out on the patio (Northtown) to watch it take off.

Welcome back.

Was JimmyJam around that aircraft the other night?

Glad that y'all were ok.