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Basic Training |
what is the situation at AIT for 15Y & 15R?
Heard there is a large backlog of soldiers right out of basic training trying get into class. they do details for months before they get a slot. What's up? |
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"Never Quit!" |
I don't have any current info on hold-unders at Ft. Eustis, I do know that there is no more HHD (HQ and HQ Detachment). Hold-unders will go to their training companies, where they will do various details until they class-up. Usually that means sweeping, cleaning, and other janitorial and landscaping tasks. Matt SPC, US Army 15U |
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I guess the term I should be using is hold-unders. The National Guard comes in and bumps them for the seats and they are doing various cleaning details until they can get a seat again which might mean months. Any truth to this from what you can tell?
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"Never Quit!" |
Maybe a few weeks, but months seems extreme. The only people I new who were hold-unders for more than 4 weeks were Tangos (15Ts) and/or were awaiting UCMJ action. Matt SPC, US Army 15U |
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Hello, everyone i am actually in Ft. Eustis right now. i am going through the 15T ait program. i am out of here in 2 weeks. i might be able to add to your question.
15T there is a waiting period when i got here it was up to 8-9 weeks depending if you were national gaurd or active duty. Right now the the waiting period is down to about 6-7 weeks. there is a holding area called the annex were you basically waiting and do details all day. So as far as that question goes yes there a pretty long waiting period just to start ait. C Co. is just so overwhelmed with the flow of 15T that all they can do is put mass amounts of pvt's in a holding area to be classed. As far as 15R go i do beleive that they are not as long as us. They are in B. CO. and there waiting period is like 1-2 weeks basically when you improcess you get class the newt week or so. There is no other company that really has to deal with the waiting period its pretty much 15T series. I have heard that the 15 N-S are getting in the 4-5 weeks to be classed. There is not enough instrutors at usaals to take over a class for 14 weeks there are just to overtaken by the flow of 15T coming into FT. Eustis. i hope that this imformation helps if you got any other question just let me know. PFC. Tepe |
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Basic Training |
Thank you very much this answers the confusion.
Thank you for all the information. What can the guys do on off time? do they have more privledges like going off post or do they have many restrictions like basic training. You guys are terrific. |
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"Never Quit!" |
Each Company has different methods, but IN GENERAL, there are 3 levels of privilege. Red: All new AIT soldiers will be "Red Stat" for the first 4 weeks. Soldiers are restricted to the Company area (and PX/MWR at CoC discretion). No civilian clothing authorized. Green: Week 5-10. Soldiers may leave post after final formation on Friday (usually around 1700). Civilian clothes are authorized. Soldiers must report back to the Company each evening by 2000-2100 depending on Company policy. Soldiers are released again after morning formation (usually around 0800-0830). Gold: Week 11+. Soldiers may leave post after final formation on Friday (usually around 1700). Civilian clothes are authorized. Soldiers may stay off post until recall formation on Sunday evening (usually 2000-2100 depending on Company policy). Pass status is dependent on time since arrival at AIT, PT performance, and school GPA. Each Company will have differing standards for each pass level. Failure to maintain standards can and will result in loss or suspension of pass status. Also, CoC/Cadre can suspend/revoke a soldier's pass status for disciplinary actions (i.e., Article 15) or "Soldierization Issues" which can be almost anything concerning military bearing. Failing a test in school can also reduce a soldier's pass status. Matt SPC, US Army 15U |
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Basic Training |
So from what you all are saying, as a 15G, I won't have a long wait (if at all)?
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I left Ft Eustis December 4. I was in A co the whole time I was there as a 15D. Before I left 1st Jamison, who I believe is retiring in October, changed the policy to red pass for 2 weeks. Thats A co though. Before I left there was a lot of MOS shuffling around between A, B, C, D, and F companies. Echo by the way is a different battalion but same brigade and supply AIT. Good luck and keep your head up while your there. PFC Michaels |
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I will be heading down to Eustis November 17th as a 15T, guess im going to be waiting awhile before I get to school. So 15T's seem to have the longest waiting period, is it just the job that delay's things?
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My son had to wait two months. Are you from Australia? 15R
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I miss spoke it just seemed like 2 months to him b/c he did all sorts of maintainance stuff & lots of PT - It was only 3 weeks when I think of the time.
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"Never Quit!" |
It's usually because there are so many new soldiers who want to be Blackhawk people, and class sizes are pretty small. I am a 15U (Chinook) and our class size was 12; no reason to think Tango classes are any bigger. New classes form each week. When I was there, tangos had a serious wait time. I was in hold-under (HHD) for 10 days and considered myself lucky. Good Luck! Matt SPC, US Army 15U |
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For about the last month or so, Tangos have only been waiting a week. They show up, in-process, spend a week in the annex doing details, then class up the following Monday.
USAALS recently took control of 1-222 and they're pretty serious about changing the way stuff happens around here (for the better, no less!). -- Edited for poor punctuation. |
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If this is any relevant anymore, I did attend Yankee course in 04'-05'. Right after basic, some of us immediately got class dates and started without waiting. I (and a few others) had to wait only one week for another group from Ft. Sill to show up, never seen any 15Y's sitting around, pulling CQ for months, except your few individual screw-ups, waiting for "new" class dates. If you are a Yankee, or you want to be, you have made the right choice.
PS. Matt, bunch of Kiowa people coming down to 3ID from Drum, any chance you'd be relocated? |
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"Never Quit!" |
Hahahahahaha! No, Ft. Drum is like a life sentence! Only two ways you get out of Ft. Drum: Death and ETS. Seriously though, I haven't heard anything about a relocation of Kiowa people, however I'm not 3-17 Cav (I'm 3-10 GSAB) so no reason I would have any info on it. I am waiting on my interim security clearance in the hopes that the 160th can pull me before my unit deploys (thanks mh47flyer!) Matt SPC, US Army 15U |
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 That's soooo funny!!! Soak it up, you'll be doing A LOT of details during your time in. Them recruiters always forget to tell people that. Still lmao... |
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HOW LONG? I am going to start my interim as soon as I arrive stateside, I am hearing 2 weeks to a year for getting a simple interim, what's up with that? Can't the security manager grant you this on the spot after submitting the questionarre? |
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"Never Quit!" |
In my case, they (whomever "they" is) have already done all the investigative work while I was in BCT and AIT, but for some reason, did not either grant nor deny a clearance; my S-2 said they just left it open. So I had to update my SF-86 with info from the time I enlisted to now (which was just my duty stations, addresses, and contact people). Then I had to sign a request for an interim clearance and a permanent clearance. As of right now, S-2 told me that last week my packet was at the MP station for a local MP check. Once the MPs are done, then the interim request goes back to S-2, then they send it up the chain (BN to Bde to Division) where Division is supposed to sign-off on the interim clearance, and then Division sends the packet to Ft. Meade for a permanent clearance. I'm told that this process takes about 2 weeks. I'm hoping it all gets done quickly so that I can get out of here. My unit is OK and all, but I'd rather go to 160th than deploy with m current unit. But if you are just starting the whole process, the investigative part will take a while. Matt SPC, US Army 15U |
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It seems they are doing the interim locally, which means you have to bug them all the time. Investigative work, as I heard is, criminal record check, credit check etc. I submitted a SF86 during enlistment in 2004 too, couldn't have been granted a clearance since I was not a citizen back then. 2 weeks is not bad. Forgot to ask, did you submit anything electronically? And your secret is not for WOCS, it is for 160th correct? |
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