Any help at all would be greatly appreciated, please. I just hope I didn't mess up signing for a lost cause (I'd just rather be 11B than be stuck as a mechanic).
Do that instead to start. Don't be in a job that your using just get into another.
That being said, you can get laser surgery no problem. Google it you'll find it. I would say that you should be prepared to accept a some time not being a warrant officer. Not because your not good enough, people just don't hand out recommendations. You have to work and be good at your job to earn the recommendation. Just some stuff to think about. Also you get surgery and apply as a civilian by raising your GT score 1 point.
Good luck, research these boards a lot of great info out there.
Just found out yesterday that I was picked up for WOFT. Went to MEPS to sign paperwork and found out that I'm leaving August 7th for WOCS. JESO CHRISTO!! I thought I would have a couple months. Any word on what to expect for a prior service guy showing up to WOCS with no uniforms whatsoever?
That is pretty quick. I was selected in May and will be the same WOCS class. I am in the same boat however, prior AD showing up with hopes and dreams and that's about it. Our class doesn't start for a week or so I believe. So plenty of time to in-process, get all of our initial issue uniforms, and get up to speed hopefully. Send me an email at jk1199(at)gmail(dot)com when you get a chance. A few other things I'm curious about, and likewise I'm sure.
i'm an active duty e-6 11b trying to decide whether i should put in my flight packet or not. once i get selected for woft, is there any way i could ever go to ranger school(having a deployment every other year has kept me from going).
Originally posted by AirborneAndy: i'm an active duty e-6 11b trying to decide whether i should put in my flight packet or not. once i get selected for woft, is there any way i could ever go to ranger school(having a deployment every other year has kept me from going).
small chance, but still a chance.
honestly, you may not want to go as an aviator.
The focus would be learning to fly and do all the other things in the bird at the same time, becoming a PC, getting tracked and the things that are crucial to Warrant officer progression.
I am currently a civilian with a Bachelor's degree, however, I want to be a Warrant Officer Aviator as opposed to a commissioned Officer.
That said, the thing that scares me most is the contract I will be signing once I am accepted into the program. The reason this scares me is because I have heard many horror stories about contractual matters, no matter the branch of the military. I'm not saying they are going to try to cheat me or anything, but rather I would just like to know what I should expect to see on the contract. The main question I have is:
Will my contract say something about the 153A MOS? I know for a fact since I'm going the WOCS path as a civilian, aviation is the only path the Army will allow me to enter. So naturally I would think that my contract will state 153A with the understanding I must attend Basic Training, WOCS, then WOFT.
If you apply for WOFT and go through all the tests , physicals and interview boards and get accepted, your contract will say for 153A. However, you will sign other documents stating that if you fail to pass WOCS and/or flight school that you can be reassigned to fit the needs of the Army. This includes if you voluntarily withdraw yourself from WOCS or flight training. Security Clearance is another one that could cause you to lose your flight slot and be put somewhere else.
Hey, new to the forums. 30 years old, 95 college credits (2.4 GPA, not great but...) 96 on the ASVAB with 124 GT score, PPL rotorcraft w/ 73 hours, good letters and a confident person. I believe my chances are great but I read a lot of negativity about WOFT "street to seat" acceptance but I will not let that keep me from doing my best and going in confident. Guess I am just here to say wish me luck. Thanks for all the info you have posted so far and any advice you can give will be great. I think all I need so far is the AFAST (have taken private, commercial, and instrument written and made high scores and have looked over some study guides and am not worried about it, I will study some more) also how rigorous is the flight physical? Thanks. Just opening contact basically.
Originally posted by 18409671: Hey, new to the forums. 30 years old, 95 college credits (2.4 GPA, not great but...) 96 on the ASVAB with 124 GT score, PPL rotorcraft w/ 73 hours, good letters and a confident person. I believe my chances are great but I read a lot of negativity about WOFT "street to seat" acceptance but I will not let that keep me from doing my best and going in confident. Guess I am just here to say wish me luck. Thanks for all the info you have posted so far and any advice you can give will be great. I think all I need so far is the AFAST (have taken private, commercial, and instrument written and made high scores and have looked over some study guides and am not worried about it, I will study some more) also how rigorous is the flight physical? Thanks. Just opening contact basically.
Notably Chapter 4. It is VERY extensive. Includes blood work, EKG, vision, hearing, etc. Flight physical is the most common disqualifying event for people applying to WOFT. Other than not applying at all, of course, lol.
You might also start working out in preparation for the Army Physical Fitness Test if you haven't already. If your other scores are questionable (like a low GPA as you pointed out), a high PT score will demonstrate determination and self-discipline. If you haven't already, go to: http://www.usarec.army.mil/hq/warrant/WOBanner.html There you can find the requirements for the resume and the essay which you can get started on right away. Competition for "street-to-seat" slots is fierce and you'll want to put together the strongest possible packet.
I see a bunch of guys/girls on the board asking about street to seat of high school to flight school. I am here at rucker now in the uh-60 program. I have met a ton of people who are street to seat. They are all fairly average people in my opinion. I believe that if you have a complete packet, good physical and some motivation, you will get a chance. If not the first time around, keep trying. The National Guard is also a great place to go if you want to fly. There are far fewer people to compete against for the slot. Also people often ask about age. I was accepted at 38 yrs. I am 39 now and am doing just as good if not better than anyone younger than I. Also people talk about previous flight experience. Honestly it don't mean squat here. It may help you learn a bit easier or just be more comfortable in the air. The IPs could care less really. Bottom line...if you want to fly, throw your hat in and keep trying. If you are not currently enlisted, don't believe that line from the recruiter that it would be easier to enlist and then put your packet it because it is total BS. You would be delaying the possibility of going to WOCS and IERW for a long time. I would argue that one all day.
Well, I'm new the this forum. I just found out today that after all that I've done to get my packet together and right, that the female (at Ft. Knox) who is in charge of looking it over and forwarding it to the board was too overwhelmed and didn't get to finish mine and 6 other applicants folders and send them to the board. So because of her mistake, I now have to wait until the Sept board. But she did say she was sorry . So how much does that suck! And to top it off, they said even though it was their screw up they wouldn't look at the folders til next board. That's BS!!!
Hi everyone... there is very little on this forum about whether a Bankruptcy would affect a security clearance or not... Does anyone have any more information on this? I tried searching the Personnel (Security Clearance People) Website and I didn't come up with anything. Does anyone have any experience with this? Thanks very much...
Hello all, new to these forums but had a question about getting into the WOFT as a civilian. I have already made up my mind that I want to join as long as I can fly. Now my question is this - I guess you could say I was young and dumb. I ended up getting my GED when I was 17. Now I am 26 and go to school at night(still a freshman) while working a sales position full time. It's a corporate job that pays pretty well and I have several years of experience in my profession. I'm wondering though if having my GED and not having completed my degree will make it near impossible for me to get in. Any thoughts?
It is 100% impossible if you do not submit a WOFT package. If you have a GED, the Army requires at least 15 college credits in applying. The Army has pilots as young as 19 without degrees. It won't be easy. They accept approximately 20% of the truly civilian applicants. Continue in school, get some flight time and work on great recommendations. Oh yes, be physically fit as well. The max age without military service is 32.
To answer your question, no it's not impossible, but it's not a cake walk either. Competition is tough but once selected the washout rate is less than 10%. Good luck in reaching for the sky.
Thank you for the reply Zaurus. Not sure if you know the answer to this, but because I received my GED I had to take some remedial courses that didn't count towards my major when I first got into college. So I currently have over 15 hours if I include those courses. If I only count the credits that count towards my major, then after this semester I will have 15. Just wondering if the courses I already have will suffice or if I have to wait until this semester in order to submit my WOFT package.
Start now. You won't finish your packet before the end of the semester anyway. It's not like enlisting, where you go to MEPS in the morning and you're sworn in that afternoon. It takes months, and getting a flight physical seems to be nearly impossible for some of us these days.
If you're still curious about the credits... if they were considered undergraduate level courses by an accredited university or college, then they count. If they don't count toward your degree (even as elective credits) they probably won't count for WOFT either.
. So how much does that suck! And to top it off, they said even though it was their screw up they wouldn't look at the folders til next board. That's BS!!!/1UH60Blackhawk03Hellfires.jpg "Picture of VerticalLift")
