My husband and I have been working on the citizenship of our son since he was born. We made an appointment at embassy and I presented all the legal documents and all the proofs of our relationship before i concieve my son.

Upon examining the papers and all the evidences by the consul at US embassy Philippines, he told me that he is convinced that everything we presented are true and genuine that support the facts about our relationship.

However, even we have complete proofs of our relationship before our wedding...the consul still requiring my husband and our son to undergo DNA testing for the reason of concieving my baby before the wedding day.

So i called my husband (stationed at Mid East on that time) and told him about the final requirement they are asking. My husband got really mad about it and refused to do DNA testing for further reasons.

1. He said the DNA testing is purely "voluntarily" and not forcefully required.

2. There's no legible hospital from where he's stationed at.

3. DNA cost a lot of money.

4. He's in the middle of war.

5. He said he's 100% sure the father of our baby.

So again, i got confused. But i still go back to talk to the consul and tell him what my husband told me. And asked for consideration of facts.

The consul told me that it's te final requirement and my husband should do it because we are only given 90 days period of doing it. Otherwise, the $150 USD i paid for my Sons passport will be forfeited and the application will also be needing for re-application. Which will go back to Zero paper process. And that means my 3 months effort and spenditures upon applying for it will be wasted.


My husband failed to do the test within the 90 days period the consul gave us. And so, my sons' citizenship is not granted. He's quite disappointed because he can't get us to be with him after his Mid-east deployment. And that's up until at present.

Still my husband don't like to undergo DNA test, even he's back to US now. He said he will try to find out and work on it directly at Homeland security in the US about our sons' citizenship.

My concerned again now is that, after his 1 month vacation leave this year here in the Philippines. He got me pregnant again, and he's very happy for it.

If i give birth to our 2nd baby, i am thinking if we will do same process on the childs citizenship...???

Will the consul ask for the same requirement? (the DNA testing)

I just want to know who from them (my husband or the consul) is wrong and over reacting?

And another one is....
Is there another way of acquiring my kids their US citizenship without undergoing an expensive DNA test?

I have no idea about any of this but I wanted to wish you luck on all of it.

My guess is that your #2 baby wouldn't need the DNA testing snce you are married but I could be wrong. Let your husband check out his resources to see if this is true. I am sure that some of the other ladies will be on here soon to help you wth this as well.

Good luck!

Okay i looked this up on the State Department Website-were you married when your son was born? IF you were and you can prove that 1) your husband is a US citizen who lived physical in the US for five consective years-at leasst 2 over the age of 14 and 2) He acknowledges that he is the childs father (his name is on the birth certificate) and that he is willing to provide support up to the age of 18-that is enough -but IF you were NOT married when you son was born-even if you prove the two of you had a relationship there has to be proof of the blood relationship between the child and the father-thats why they say you have to have a DNA test even if your husband meets the other requirements of acknowledging he is the childs father and agreeing to provide support.
The only other option you have is to get green cards-come to the US as legal aliens-and apply for naturalization. Once you are in the states it might be easier to get your husband to agree to the blood test and to get the paper work for you son done.

Here are the list of requirements they asked and we presented it all originals.

1. Original proof of parents U.S. Citizenship (My husband Passport and Birth certificate)

2. Proofs of US citizen parent physical presence in the US for years.

3. Marriage contract aunthenticated by Philippine National Statistics Office and on security paper.

4. My Sons birth Certificate, authenticated by Philippines National Statistics office and on security paper.

5. Proof of termination of previous marriage (my husbands divorce papers)

6. Proofs of parents physical presence in the same location at the probable time of applicants conception.
We presented :
a) my husbands travel orders at Korea,
b) my passport proving that i am with him
at Korea,
c) Legal counseling certificates issued to
us by his legal counseling officers like
Chaplain, and his Commander Officers.

7. Proofs of parents relationship prior to the conceptionof the applicant.
We presented:
a) Pictures of us with my family members
and his friends in the army at Korea.
b) Letters and notes of our datings,
reciept of our wedding ring purchased
in Korea.
c) Pictures of our engagement little party
with some Korean, Americans and Filipino
friends.

8. Applicants family photos, growing up photos and various ID's.
We presented:
a) baptismal certificate of my son (on his sixth
months old) with pictures of us as family
proving my husband is present at our sons
baptismal.

9. Parents ID
We presented:
a) All original, my DEERS ID, drivers liscense

b) my husbands Military ID and SSN ID (xerox copy)

10. Notarized statement from my husband giving permission to issue a passport to the applicant. Form DS-3053.

Everything are presented to the US embassy. After examining the papers, the consul called me for an interview.

here is the details:
Consul: Where did you meet?
Me: in Korea
Consul: Why are you in Korea?
Me: I come to Korea when i visit my family members
married to Koreans. I've been there often times
as tourist. And often request to their government
for the extension of my VISA for a longer stay
everytime i go there.
Consul: Yeah, i see your VISAs are Tourist.
Where do you stay in Korea?
Me: I stay with my eldest sisters house every
weekdays. And I go out and see my husband every
weekend and everytime he gets his off days.
Consul: Did you work in Korea?
Me: No, sincemy VISA is not allowed to work. But i do
some part time job on english teaching to some of
our korean friends and their kids.
Consul: I am comvinced that your papers presented are
originals and genuine, however...since you
concieve your baby before your wedding day, i
have to prove in papers that your husband and
your son are biologically related. So call your
husband and tell him to take a DNA test as a
final requirement.

So i called my husband at once and reported everyting to him, and he started to say WHAT?!! WHY?! and it makes him mad. And that starts my wondering and confusing mind regarding my sons claim of his US citizenship.

Even my husband had his 2nd visit here and been to US embassy personally to clarify these things. Still he don't want to take the DNA test.

I am really confuse on this matter. Specially now that i am again concieving our 2nd baby.

The gentleman at the US embassy is the one making the decision on your son's citizenship, so you have to follow his rules. If you don't want to follow them, then the only thing you can do is go to his supervisor and see if you get a different answer.

After doing some research-ask for a supervisor or someone else at the embassy to review your paperwork-the gentleman who is saying you need a DNA test is stretching the rules and you husband is right-If you were married when your son was born you all have met the burden of proof-the published regulations do not say ANYTHING about having to prove blood relationship to a child that was born in wedlock-there is nothing about conception date. Im still not to sure about some of your husbands motives-but-based on the information you have provided here and in the other thread-an information i got from a friend of my sons who works for the state dept in another country-you son should be able to get a US passport. I still think your best option is to come to the US-your son can get a philipine passport-and fight this battle here-not to do it in the philipines-and -you need your second child to be born here to avoid a repeat performance-and your husband should be willing to support you in that-if he is not-you have other issues.

Thank you Orchidj5, i think i should get my son's Philippine passport now. Just in case we might be needing it too soon, at least it's all ready in hand.

At least now, i come to know other option aside from "waiting" something i don't know where it leads to.

In anyway, i will be posting updates regarding this. Maybe some other members there might deal with the same scenario. It might help in any way.