RTC SAN DIEGO * Remembered *
How how it does take us back. For those who trained there, it is something to see the closure of the base after all these years. While training there in 1991, I do remember that first 03:30 California morning and oh how it does bring back a memory.
The way GL is training recruits in todays NAVY take the true honor away somewhat...I remember marching and drilling every step of everywhere we went along with getting DROPPED along the way. GL now days, train in the same building including eating chow. They do not march like we did. Oh how things have changed. RTC San Diego will always be an experience that some of us will never forget as you guys would agree...I do not think the recruits of today could handle the tasks that we had to endure without there TIME OUT CHITS I hear is at GL today.
What is that? Get real. All we heard for 8 hours is DROP and DO NOT LET ME SEE YOUR GUT HIT THE DECK!!!!! or getting MASHED all the time....
REMEMBER this.....The Company Commander raising all thew windows in the barracks and cutting the heat on. Telling you to get in full gear and doing the 8 Count Body Builders in front of your racks till you lost your CHOW!!! Oh that is the way we trained. SWEAT and TEARS
RTC San Diego will Always be engraved as an unpleasant but rewarding experience and know others would feel the same....
LET THE JOURNEY BEGAN was the words....Oh how she will be remembered.
RTC - San Diego - 1991 CO- OO7 James Bond Co
And your point is?
Just because the way you got mashed doesn't make you a better Sailor.
By the way..how much marching did you do in the fleet after you left RTC?
The Sailors today still march..so don't let the one-stop "ships" fool you into thinking the Sailors of today are not still getting the best training.
Thanks for serving!
I almost cried when I went through the remains of NTC San Diego. No I didn't go to NTC, I went next door to MCRD. But that's beside the point.
Preble Field no longer exists. When I last drove by there two years ago, it was a gravel pit. I don't know what has been put in its place by now.
Some of the old buildings still exist. But it looks like they are blending into San Diego and the housing development (both civilian and military) next to it. When I started driving in that area, I started in the "new" Navy housing. The next thing I know, I'm driving by the old Navy Exchange, Chapel, Cafeteria, and places where the BEQ used to stand.
Now some business parks have been erected in some of the land where NTC used to be.
My father went through RTC San Diego in January 1965. So I have some connection to that place.
Now all that's left are memories. Hollywood immortalized NTC in "Top Gun" and "Pensacola: Wings of Gold." (Yeah, they stood in for NAS's, but the unmistakeable look of NTC is evident!)
"If you focus on results, you will NOT get change. If you focus on change, you WILL get results."
I never intended to put the thought in your mind that I thought we we trained better than todays Navy, however it is true that they are trained different and NO Mashing is involved...
We are just remembering RTC San Diego...Let us have that moment. From your profile you went to ORLANDO...for Boot....
My eyes are closed the years are drifting back ah yes there it is RTC San Diego oh what glorious times, getting to scrub me clothes and duck walk around the company, the poor guy that was sent to 4013 for hashmarks on his scivvies. That was 1960 for your furture edification go to www.quarterdeck.org and pick your history or learn the history of RTC and the NTC complex. Now I will go cry in my beers as I never went anywhere for a beer. Westpac Willie
Thanks for the link! I love the nostalgia stuff in it!This message has been edited. Last edited by: SgtLtUSMC,
"If you focus on results, you will NOT get change. If you focus on change, you WILL get results."
Company 023 October 89-Dec 90. CC TORRES and MM1 Watson.
On VISITOR night, it actually RAINED in Southern California. Huge, golf ball sized icy rain drops as we marched back over the bridge in our dress blues. Our Dog dishes sloshed as we kept our heads level and eyes front.
We got our one call home at USS RECRUIT. Galley 5 served the crappiest chow I ever had in the Nav. It was only one step down and we would be eating prison food.
If you were white, you had a grinder reminder.
IF you were black, you STILL had a grinder reminder where your white hat (No command ballcaps, because YOU EARN a command ballcap, ricky recruit!) was a regulation one inch above your brow.
Every one went to church, because if you didn't, you had to field day the barracks. Plus, they hardly ever yelled at you in the chapel.
I also remember.
Most vivid memory was towards the end when one the Company Commanders talked to us frankly and said that statistically most of the company would either only do four years and leave, or not even survive four years before getting in the deep darks and tossed to the curb by the Navy. That, and the civilian aircraft flying overhead going to and from Lindberg Field.
I'll never know the answer, but it would be interesting to know how close to the mark they were.
How many of the NTC San Diego graduates here remember "rowing" during Boot Camp? As I recall the only streamer we had on our company flag was for being the best "oarsmen" in our Batt.
Man that seems like a loooooong time ago. When all was said and done, it turned out to be the easiest duty station I had in my entire time in the Navy.
"On VISITOR night, it actually RAINED in Southern California. Huge, golf ball sized icy rain drops as we marched back over the bridge in our dress blues."
You may have marched to the bridge but you went accross it at route step, Your food tasted funny cause your fellow recruits had a hand in it. When I went through if you were from Calif or Tex you were in line for abuse. Thanks for reminding me. Westpac Willie
You know, I remember when I went through in 1991, we never trained on the USS RECRUIT, in fact we never got any training on shipboard life except for classroom. I do not know why our company did not. We marched along side of the ship from the barracks to the chow hall everyday wondering what and when we go on that ship!!
It was hard when getting to the fleet, that I did not know what to do during the first GQ or any drill for that matter. I sometimes think, they just hurried us up through the 8 weeks to get us to the fleet...
Marching Party For Some and Eating PIZZA for others...
This may be a bit gross, but the most burned in memory of RTC San Diego was the end of week 3
(summer 78) My company was moving off Worm Island for the barracks on the other side. Marching over the bridge it had a street light on it that hung over the bridge a little. Of course there was a big ugly seagull sitting up there.
I could just tell he was going to take a crap and was hoping I wasn't his target. The guy in front of me got ploped right on the back of his seabag. Big running gross multicolered goo slowly sliding down this guys seabag and I had to watch it for about 10 minutes until we broke formation at the new barracks. Funny, thirty years later and I can still see it like it was this morning
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Ruptured Duck-Derelict Vets
RTC San Diego 1974
Morning uniform inspection, failed, morning rack inspection, failed..CC leaves for 2 hours. Comes back with a ton of Chiefs with braids on their shoulders. Oh BTW, its summer with 95 degree heat. Go inside put on our jackets,raincoats, turn on heater full blast, lok all the windows down tight, arrange tables in two long oderly rows and the PT begins all morning and throught the afternoon! That was one of my days in bootcamp..no fun! Came back there in 1994 for precom training, jogged by the old chow hall, grinder, etc. Looked alot smaller, but it was big and bad when I was there. Shut down now, just another old abandoned Navy base. No tears for that place, tho. Oh yeah, rifle PT, no fun either.
I was in CO. 236. Went in Aug of 1991. The hot months. CC's were Chief Diefenderfer and Chief Sweeny.
We got mashed several times and had our barracks torn apart one time, and I mean torn apart. Good memories.
I remember RTC San Dog Co 191 graduated August 1989. 8 weeks of great memories. Remember the cuffed dungarees!! I think I found two chicken bones and a balled up napkin in them after chow on my first week. Also remember having my wisdom teeth pulled out 2 weeks b4 graduation. Was great walking back to the barracks, it was done of a Friday.Graduation friday, some co was graduating and all the parents were parading to the grad field.Got many strange looks from parents,and such from the blood and saliva coming from my numbed mouth. Got to still grad with my company, but was unable to go through the gas chamber.Lucky I think. Anyhow any felow shipmantes know of anyone who was in my CO send me a PM
I remember my last watch in basic.
A sister company just cleared out and a new group of sock monsters moved in to the other side of our barracks.
The duty CC was a former SEAL driver, and Just Cause had kicked off three weeks prior. The Saturday before we were all leaving, I had duty at 0400-0800.
The CC showed up plastered, because he learned that one of the guys he worked with got killed assaulting an airfield where Noriegea? or whatshisbutt pineapple face kept his plane. He had a bottle of Gordons' in his arm and piled into a recruit rack, gave me orders to reveille his company at the right time.
I carried him over my shoulder to the duty chief room. I had graduated already, so I was doing him a favor. Racked out the RCPO with this: March the boys to chow and back, and return at 0730. Inform the CC that Battalion recognizes his situation. He does that, and asks no questions, he was going to have a good bootcamp. Eff it up, and it was going to be a long ten weeks.
Yep. Kept that to myself until now. Feels pretty good. I just hope that company turned out all right.
there is a table on mainside, that has my brother's carving name, my dad a pearl harbor survivor and my oldest brother and me... would love to see that table and get that for my backyard, but o well, the fact that all of us boys and my dad went to the same place, carved our name on the bottom of the same table, is pretty cool
Ahh yes. Good ol' San Diego. Great memories.
C163 Aug 1987 to Oct 1987.
The OP at least to me seems to suggest taht all those things that he so fondly remembers about San Diego that they don't do these days in Great Lakes ONLY happened in San Diego.
I can't speak for how it was in Orlando but I went through Great Lakes in the summer of 79, we most certainly did all those things too.
No we did not get mashed with the heat on and the windows closed, didn't get mashed much at all actually after the first week or so but then it didn't seem that we srewed up anything to deserve it either.
After about a week we only had one CC, a AK2, seemed like we were on autopilot, we got up in the morning on our own, went to breakfast, went to class, normally saw the guy for the first time between classes, went to lunch on our own, saw him for PT or COD, maybe some kind of inspection in the afternoon, saw him for the last time of the day around 1500-1600, he would put out whatever, told what we had to do for the rest of the night.
Went to dinner on our own, came back and passed out laundry, cleaned the barracks, studied whatever, that was it, the whole thing was do XYZ, we did XYZ, it was no big deal.
My G** what a difference 20 years and 1500 or so miles makes..
San Diego was tougher, and better than either Orlando or Great Lakes, if you don't believe it just ask anyone that went through Boot Camp at NTC San Diego.
Oh and on another note, the question was brought up about the most "laid back duty" somewhere on one of these threads, welllllll I think I just found it.. ETCPJ's Boot Camp Company
Ok Fellow RTC San Diego vets, here are some pictures taken at my E Division “Skimmer Reunion”, November 2007… These pictures will break your heart men…. Get ready to shed a tear……
I have some of the interiors of the barracks for those able to stand to look at them…
PS, fourth picture down from the top was my phase one barracks. Company 470...
CRUITRACOM, NTC, SDIEGO, CALIF. 28Jun1969 (My 18th Birthday) to 10Sep1969This message has been edited. Last edited by: IC2SS19Z50C5,
I want to say THANK YOU for posting these pictures of RTC San Diego. Although we all share the past of RTC, one thing is for sure, with these pictures we can all stand and say, SHE WILL BE MISSED!!!!
What sad pictures of the base. I do remember kissing the deck outside the barracks many a mornings..and the Co Commanders helled DROP
Thanks again .....
RTC San Diego - 1991 - CO - 007
Sad to see it in such disrepair.
Why are we paying welfare people so much for sections 8 housing when we have barracks sitting idle that they can live in?
If it's good enough for a squid, it's good enough.
yes thanks very much for the pictures. How sad, but than if we were living in them, they would be in the press. I don't understand why we get rid of the new so quickly in the USA
Thanks for the great words Shipmates.. I'll post some more next week.
Have a great weekend
"May You All Fair Winds and Following Seas"
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