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First of all, let me apologize if this question has been asked before, but it's bugging the heck out of me for awhile.
I just would like to know why the US Navy, which I have served and continue to serve over the last 16 years, continues to give us new working uniforms every few years, in an effort to make us look better, but then won't let us wear it out in town, even though the Army and the Air Force wear there's pretty much whereever they want to? This includes Washington DC where the NWU is even more restricted than in the rest of the country, but the afformentioned services face no such additional restriction. Thank you. V/R ET1(SS)(USNR) |
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Wish there was a good answer with regard to the Navy in general and NDW in particular.
Closest thing I ever got to an answer on the working uniforms was back in the 1960's Sailors could go to/from in working uniforms - problem was they made stops in the wrong places with working uniforms that needed work. The solution was no working uniforms outside the gate period without the CO's approval. Any other old salts have their thoughts? |
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When all other answers fail those that make the rules that that peons must live by.
There is the old stand by... "We always did it that way."  Even if those that are making the rules today are too damn young to remember how "We" always did it.. To those that make the STUPID rules I can only quote a tidbit of wisdom from Forrest Gumps Mother. "Stupid is, as Stupid does." |
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I know Sailors at my Command took full advantage of NAVADMIN 188/09 wearing our CUU/DCU's in Washington State before we deployed. It was nice to be able to go out to eat lunch off base in local establishments as the Army and Air Force have done for years. The Washington DC restrictions would suck, but I do not plan to ever take orders there anyway.
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Lead Moderator, Veterans Issues Forums davem-milcom@cinci.rr.com Founding Member DVG  |
In the 70s we had some many variations of working blue. I always felt that the Navy regs on working uniforms was out of whack. But the guys who make the rules wear khaki, and they go where they dam well please in those uniforms. I even saw Adm. Mullen give a speech in khaki, not whites this summer.
The new Navy work uniforms look like Army, AF and Marine, sailors should be allowed to follow the same rules. |
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That is exactly why I switched to Summer Blues when I went to shore duty. I hated having to change clothes when I got to work and then change again when I left. It particularly irked me that only about 40 people in a 240 person command had to both with this because the rest were all khaki pants.
The only redeeming thing in Italy was that everyone, regardless of pay grade, had to change clothes after coming to work. The Brigada Rosa stopped any wearing of military uniforms off base. |
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I agree Mike. I always preferred the Summer Blue or Winter Working Blue.
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Lead Moderator, Veterans Issues Forums davem-milcom@cinci.rr.com Founding Member DVG |
I agree, but my job for part of my time in Charleston was with pier utilities. White shirt and black pants does not work when hooking up high voltage cables. Dungarees are much better.
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___________________________________________ That ranks right up there with being the Scream'n Seaman on the Bouy party that has to climb outa the MWB up onto a seagull sh*t covered moorning bouy and hook up a rusty anchor chain. But then again, in 61/62 you could get 3 sets of Seafare Whites for $21.00, course you only made $89.00 a month.  |
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Dave - At the moment the Navy has two types of khaki uniforms - Working Khaki, which is being phased out due to the advent of the Navy Working Uniform, and Service Khaki, which is meant for day to day wear. What you saw Admiral Mullen in was probably Service Dress Khaki, which is currently undergoing wear testing and evaluation. He would have been correct in wearing it in the setting you describe. Yes, I would agree that all the services need to get on the same sheet of music with regard to wearing working uniforms outside the gate. There is probably a better chance I would be elected President of the US in 2012 than the services coming up with one standard. |
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That's what I'd like to see, one of the admiralty, who make the decisions on our uniforms actually showing it off and letting all the other sailors see it so they would have some pride in our uniforms. I swear sometimes the E-6 and below uniforms get treated like the Navy's dirty little secret. |
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Lead Moderator, Veterans Issues Forums davem-milcom@cinci.rr.com Founding Member DVG |
I figured they where a reinvention of service dress kacki, that had not been used for a number of years. I actually think they are much more practical than whites. I really liked the summer blues we had in the 70s as a practical uniform. Same with winter blues. I know many like the new old blues and whites, but from a practical standpoint, white is hard to maintain.
I agree that those under E-7 get the shaft as far as uniforms. |
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Lead Mod Navy and Recconect America Forums catherine0830@msn.com Democracy will survive until the government figures out it can bribe the people with their own money. |
Except for the dress blues. At least, the male ones. |
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This discussion is getting a bit off topic here seeing as the thread is on the Navy Working Uniform vice the service uniforms and proposed Service Dress Khaki. As one who went through the period when Summer Blue was allowed, personally and professionally I would have preferred to seen it retained and Summer White eliminated instead of the other way around. No issue with the white shirt - the trousers are another issue. |
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I agree, this thread has gotten off topic, in fact I think y'all are a bit confused (and if you're not, I apologize). My issue is with the new blue digital camoflage uniform that's supposed to replace the Utilities/coveralls/wash khaki's. it seems we keep getting new working uniforms that the Admiralty is ashamed for anyone to see us in.
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Since officers will be wearing it (the NWU) as well, I foresee a loosening of when/where it can be worn so that the rules conform with those for Service Khaki.
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I don't think so. The NWU is not designed to be a replacement for the service khakis, so loosening the restrictions on it to match the Service khakis makes no sense. |
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Not being sexist, but the only 2 reasons I have ever liked Crackerjacks are The Tradition and the fact that women really seem to like them!  It was never so apparent as the year that we were in NY City for Fleet Week! We definitely enjoyed the attention. As far as the NWU, I actually like it and policy seems to be relaxing to some degree from command to command, at least reserve-wise; we are allowed to wear ours of base for lunch at NS Newport on drill weekends. |
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I've never understood why the Army seems to let their guys wear ACUs everywhere (at least that's what it seems like in DC... on the Metro, in a mall, on the street) while the USMC and Navy seem to frown upon that and make you change into civilian clothing.
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That's what I'm saying, it's almost like the admiralty is ashamed of our uniforms, even thought they're the ones making the decisions on what those uniforms are. As a side note, last night was the first time I saw one of the new Service Uniforms (Khaki and Blacks) on a TV show last night. it was a PO in the New Service Uniform that found the Crime Scene on last nights CSI: Miami |
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As was explained to me by a good friend that has a son in the Army, Soldiers are allowed to wear their ACU's in town because we are currently engaged in hostilities. Prior to Sept. 2001 you would rarely, if at all, see anyone from any branch wearing working uniforms in DC on the Metro, light rail, etc. I have some basis to say this as I was from 1990 until 2003 a regular rider on Metro as well as the light rail systems in the area. |
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