For anyone who ever longed to live in the Southern Hemisphere...

http://www.navy.mil.nz/join-us/join-from-overseas/elig/default.htm

Introduction
The RNZN is increasing its recruiting pool to include applicants of foreign nationality with previous or current military service. There is a current requirement to fill vacancies with skilled personnel with comparable qualifications and experience that cannot be satisfied by internal career progression within the RNZN.

Eligibility
Applicants will need to meet the following basic criteria for consideration:

Be a current or ex-serving member of the UK, Australian, US or Canadian Armed Forces.
Have been a citizen of either UK, Australia, USA, Canada or NZ for a minimum period of 10 years.

1110,

You should post this in the UK/Commonwealth nations' forum of military.com:

http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/cfrm/f/9691964136

Thanks for the heads up but I think I'll stick with the Worlds finest Navy for a while.

Curious to know why this is even being posted...

AO1

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Originally posted by jc63_:
Curious to know why this is even being posted...

AO1

Maybe they're looking for "well seasoned" old salts that the "worlds finest? Navy" deems unqualified.

You know, those guys that smoke, drink, curse, and are, heaven forbid NOT PC...

I always joked about joining the French Foreign Legion after the Navy.

Since I'll probably never do that, maybe this could be an option.

-OSSA-

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Originally posted by RiverRat139:

Maybe they're looking for "well seasoned" old salts that the "worlds finest? Navy" deems unqualified.

You know, those guys that smoke, drink, curse, and are, heaven forbid NOT PC...

Ah, HA!! I have some friends in Auckland in the I-E business. I'll have to check it out!! Rate of exchange is 76 cents on the dollar (USD to NZD) if anyone is checking comparable salaries.

Soooo - they don't have submarines on their list. Hmmm. Ah, well, maybe we can commandeer one from the Aussies!

"Mack the Knife"
CDR USN (Ret)

Worth considering just for the beards.
Notice the CAPTs grooming

I would actually do this. I wonder what it does for your current US citizenship though.

V/R
IT2

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Originally posted by UndexLT:
Worth considering just for the beards.
Notice the CAPTs grooming

Oh well, it may not be a big deal for the younger crowd, but serving at sea with woman (for me anyway) would be a detriment to combat readiness. Say what you want, a mixed force is never as effective as an all male one as far as I’m concerned. And the question asked is: what do you know???.. Well first off, I spent my last 10 years of my active duty career in Army aviation and I know full well the combined limitations that having woman make on a unit’s ability to operate. And trust me, I have spoken to many fellow senior NCO’s and 0-5s and above from several service branches and they all agree. “They” are more trouble than they are worth. So I expect the RNZN is about on par with the Canadian Army, a mixed bag. When I see the Canadians come here to train in our “sand box” it is always a laughable event. Ok, I have said it and it appears that I’m female bashing. Nope, not at all, just calling it they way I have seen it.

I considered joining the Australian Submarine force. Even talked to a recruiter at one point. They run the exact same combat systems that I teach, and they are desperately in need of people.

Freemantle pretty much rocks, so who wouldn't be tempted?

Joshua, actually the Aussies are looking for well-trained sailors from the US, UK, NZ or Canada as well...

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitmentCentre/overseasApplicants/navy.aspx

It is an interesting option to ponder though. I mean, retirement from the USN at 38-43 years old. Then serve another 20 in NZ with another full pension and still being fully retired before the age of 65.

And CDR Mac, I checked out the salary range too. I've spent some time in Devonport/Auckland; they are all great people down there and have no issue with the US Navy...despite their government's differences with ours concerning nuclear power. Perhaps you can convince them of the neccesity for Diesel Boats.

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Originally posted by UndexLT:
Worth considering just for the beards.
Notice the CAPTs grooming

Reminds you of the USMS Officers from maritime school doesn't it?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 1110:
retirement from the USN at 38-43 years old. Then serve another 20 in NZ with another full pension and still being fully retired before the age of 65.QUOTE]

That could be a selling point for someone in the 38-43 age group, but what if NZ declares war on the U.S. ????.... That would be a dilemma, right???...

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Originally posted by 1110:
And CDR Mac, I checked out the salary range too. I've spent some time in Devonport/Auckland; they are all great people down there and have no issue with the US Navy...despite their government's differences with ours concerning nuclear power. Perhaps you can convince them of the neccesity for Diesel Boats.

Yeah, well, I can go either way. I was a [early] nuke, as well. Since my friend is in the I-E business, maybe he can 'arrange' a purchase.

"Mack the Knife"
CDR USN (Ret)

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Originally posted by IC2SS19Z50C5:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 1110:
retirement from the USN at 38-43 years old. Then serve another 20 in NZ with another full pension and still being fully retired before the age of 65.QUOTE]

That could be a selling point for someone in the 38-43 age group, but what if NZ declares war on the U.S. ????.... That would be a dilemma, right???...

Somewhat of a conundrum, yes indeed, but certainly a highly unlikely one given that there has been no instance of one democracy making war on another in the history of mankind.

"In 1986, New Zealand banned the entry of US Navy ships into their ports in the belief that they were carrying nuclear weapons or were nuclear-powered. The US responded by suspending relations with New Zealand as a member of ANZUS. For Australia, this alliance with the US has continued to be a foundation of its defence policy."

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Originally posted by 1110:

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Originally posted by UndexLT:
Worth considering just for the beards.
Notice the CAPTs grooming

Reminds you of the USMS Officers from maritime school doesn't it?

Ahhh, the US Mystery Service. CDR Hunt ring a bell? Listening to him, he could have been a kiwi.

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Were do I sign up....I'll have to break out my manuevering board and practice a little...lose a few pounds....but I think I can do it!.....ya...ok!

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Originally posted by 1110:

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Originally posted by IC2SS19Z50C5:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 1110:
retirement from the USN at 38-43 years old. Then serve another 20 in NZ with another full pension and still being fully retired before the age of 65.QUOTE]

That could be a selling point for someone in the 38-43 age group, but what if NZ declares war on the U.S. ????.... That would be a dilemma, right???...

Somewhat of a conundrum, yes indeed, but certainly a highly unlikely one given that there has been no instance of one democracy making war on another in the history of mankind.

HAHAHA!!!!!.... Thanks for the well thought out reply... But I had to ask it anyway... But those pesky Kiwi's...I dunno...????

I believe that you are obligated for 30 years when you are retired. So if you have retired with 20 years you are in the fleet reserve (R)for 10 years and can be called back to active duty at any time. So I think enlistment in a foreign navy would negate your pension, For at least the time you are in the employ of a foreign navy. I think some sharp PN would know the answer to this one. Then there is the matter of security clearances. When I retired I had a T.S. I am sure the USN would not want me in a foreign navy.bug who knows

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Originally posted by UndexLT:

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Originally posted by 1110:

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Originally posted by UndexLT:
Worth considering just for the beards.
Notice the CAPTs grooming

Reminds you of the USMS Officers from maritime school doesn't it?

Ahhh, the US Mystery Service. CDR Hunt ring a bell? Listening to him, he could have been a kiwi.

Acutally I didn't go to KP, but served four (4) yrs time at Maine Maritime (with time off & furlough on some non-duty weekends for good behavior).

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Originally posted by IC2SS19Z50C5:
HAHAHA!!!!!.... Thanks for the well thought out reply... But I had to ask it anyway... But those pesky Kiwi's...I dunno...????

Well, you never know. From what I've seen they are too laid back and besides, would the US government wish to disrupt NZ's exports of Steinlager to the states?

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Originally posted by 1110:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IC2SS19Z50C5:
HAHAHA!!!!!.... Thanks for the well thought out reply... But I had to ask it anyway... But those pesky Kiwi's...I dunno...????

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would the US government wish to disrupt NZ's exports of Steinlager to the states?

That is worth very serious consideration LTJG, I'm glad you brought it up...

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Originally posted by tl23455:
I believe that you are obligated for 30 years when you are retired. So if you have retired with 20 years you are in the fleet reserve (R)for 10 years and can be called back to active duty at any time. So I think enlistment in a foreign navy would negate your pension, For at least the time you are in the employ of a foreign navy. I think some sharp PN would know the answer to this one. Then there is the matter of security clearances. When I retired I had a T.S. I am sure the USN would not want me in a foreign navy.bug who knows

Good Point Shipmate, That is something to consider... BTW, thanks for the OPSEC procedures.. Much appreciated... I hope you are getting your mind set for Mobile, AL in 2009