About a month ago I received orders in the mail stating that I was transferred from the IRR to a local reserve MP unit. When I received the orders I was a week away from moving for work. Now I live half way across the country and would like to be transferred back into the IRR since I have less than 2 years left in my obligation and move frequently. I have been in talks with a NCO at the unit about filing a DA 4187(personal action). I was wondering if anyone had any experience with that? Also, I was told that I was involuntarily transferred based on needs of the unit. This is not a mobilization but an assignment. The problem I have is my orders say that the transfer was "Voluntary". I was also curious if anyone has been "Involuntary" transferred to a TPU with orders stating it is a "Voluntary" transfer. Thank you in advance.
At a minimum you need to file a 4187 to re-assign you to a unit which is near your current residence geographically (USAR).
Next transferring back into the IRR will make you just as deployable. You may want to consider coming back on M-day (active drilling status with a guard unit. This way you will get better service and have a more predictable future (still may not prevent you from being Mob'd based on the needs of the state/nation).
If you are in the IRR you are more likely to get mobilized as an augmentee. An Officer off active duty (5 yrs) was just mob'd out of the IRR, he lost the opportunity to join a Guard Unit in CA.
Consider your options and how you want to get mobilized. MAJ H
Not bad advice. Control your destiny.
We had a captain who was IRR deploy with us for 18 months even though he had only a few months of obligation left on his comitment. He was about 40 Lbs overweight when he joined us, but after a few months the heat and MREs took care of that problem.
I recently transferred from a TPU to the IRR. Not because I wanted to, but the unit was terrible.
I got myself into a DIMA Slot. Drilling Individual Augmentee. You do all your Drills and AT at once. 24 days=48 Drills and 12-19 days AT. Plus 2-3 travel days. I have 30 years in and this is going to be my last hooah! It's one of the Army's best kept secrets. I wish I knew about the DIMA Slots when I got out of the Regular Army in 1991 after coming home from Desert Storm. As a TPU I have been mobilized 5 times since 2001. The DIMA Slots are all over the country and in Germany, Korea, Hawaii, japan and other places.
Check your email.
Buyer beware, I had been a DIMA with SOCEUR in Germany since 2003 but was involuntarily transfered to a holding tank TPU (on the other coast from where I live) in 2007. This week, while I was in the middle of transferring out of that TPU I was involuntarily mobilized into an unrelated command (this after I had just completed a voluntary mob to Afghanistan in 2007).
To transfer back to the IRR or to another unit, you need another form not a 4187(I can't think of it off the top of my head).
Bascially it's a form between the gaining/loosing commander, and once approved is sent to the RRC for orders.
To brought back into the USAR from the IRR voluntary takes action on your part. Did you sign something?
I was a DIMA and was transfered to a TPU last year without signing anything (and the orders read "voluntary").
I'm coming up on my 20 year letter at the end of the year and was thinking of flat out retiring or trasfering into the IRR, however, after seeing some of the postings here, DIMA sounds like something I might want to look at since I live on Kauai and my Unit is in Oahu - my drills are for love (and points). Anyone who has surpassed their 20 year letter and has some sound advise - I'm willing to listen.
For DIMA slots, check PACOM or SOCPAC.
Do you have any advice on the process of actually going about getting into a DIMA slot? I would certainly appreciate it. Thank you!
Do you have any advice on the process of getting into a DIMA slot? Thank you!
Just remember Army Regulation 135-91, chapter 5-5, defines the maximun involuntary travel distance the ARNGUS and USAR may enforce for IDT is 50 miles and will not exceed 1 1/2 hours of travel, one way, by car under average traffic, weather, and road conditions.
They cannot assign you to a unit that is farther away than that, unless you have signed a waiver. You probably need to update your address as they are using your old address to assign you to the TPU unit.
Hope it helps.
Just an FYI, this happend to me when my unit moved 500 miles away from where it was, only a 4187 was needed to transfer me into the IRR, then I found a home later closer to home.
DIMA are becoming few and far between. Big Army didn't like paying for people to drill but not being able to reach out an "touch" them. IMA are still available but the DIMA slots are drying up. Look for an overseas command and be absolutely certain your orders read "DIMA" and not TPU. Last year after I got back from A-stan I tried to transfer to a DIMA with SOCCENT. After nine months of messing around (and resubmitting my paperwork twice), they finally cut me orders for a "TPU to TPU transfer!" When I told them I was supposed to go to a DIMA slot their response was for me to resubmit my entire transfer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm in the IRR now.
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