My dh signed his "agree with findings" paperwork three months ago instead of doing the medical board.
The wording was major depressive disorder in remission.

Now, today he gets a call from his cg appointed lawyer that the cg misworded the paper and that he now needs to sign a paper that says "major depressive disorder controlled with meds".

WTH?? I told him to not sign that paper because it will mess up his future with non-military employers. I told dh to never sign a statement that isn't true. Duh. Has anyone here had this happen. Does not signing this mean another medical board.
Background-dh was on meds for about 6 months due to problems with harassment by another cg member. He has since moved to the land unit and the other cg member is also now at another station. Once off the boat dh no longer needed the meds and has been off of them for over 3 months.

All i can think of is that the cg is trying to cover themselves.
We thought we were done. Dh doesn't want to stay in and was just waiting for his out papers. Now this. Help us figure this out.
Please pm me if you have any suggestions.

Not being a Doctor, just a layman, the change sounds reasonable. Anyone that needs to take a pill 'cuase someone picked on him, obvioulsy has a serious medical issue. 'In remission' makes no sense, unless the 'bully' was still bullying, which you say he is not. So - controlled by meds sounds more truthful than in remission. Just saying that for your benifit as once he leaves us - you are the only person there for him. One of you need be sure they are not in a state of denial of the serious medical issue. No normal adult needs pills 'cause someone is picking on them or as you say 'harrasment.'

I think you can be assured the CG is not trying to cover themselves as you suggest. They receive no benifit.

As far as future employment, both are medical conditions which a potential employer can not ask details about.

Get your better half well, keep him well, number one priority.

It seems to me as though if he agrees with the findings, then it may have an impact on future CG or VA compensation. Someone else here will know more about that, but when I was in people were always well advised to not sign that but go through the MB process instead. Things may be different now. The best weapon is for dh to study up on the MB process and the implications of agreeing with findings.

His unit XO/Xpo, or YN or HS (or maybe even legal) can give him the references he needs, and he/you can come to your own conclusion. Everybody has their own opinion, and this way you can form your own.

--Jim
Life is good!

Sorry, he has already done the med board but declined the one that you have to be at in person. Everything was done and signed and we were waiting for the discharge papers. He was labeled and agreed with 10% disabled with major depressive disorder in remission.

PP, so you are saying that a person should sign a statement that isn't true??

Yes, daily sexual and verbal harassment will cause a person to be depressed. Duh.
He has had suicidal thoughts as a teenager so that is why it is labeled as remission and a permanent condition.

You need to read this manual, especially 4.A.13.

If the finding is Not Fit for Duty, his choices are laid out in 14.A.13.c. Refusing to sign the form will not help you at all. 14.A.13.d essentially says if he fails to make one of the choices in 14.A.13.c, it is presumed that he is accepting the findings as written.

If it bothers you that much, he has the option to reject the findings and demand a formal board, but I would listen to your appointed counsel.

I am going to find out if dh can rebut the prc findings.

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Not being a Doctor, just a layman, the change sounds reasonable. Anyone that needs to take a pill 'cuase someone picked on him, obvioulsy has a serious medical issue.

Wow. Pretty strong statement. Antidpressants have come a long way since the thought of "Anyone that needs to take a pill ' because cuase someone picked on him, obviously obvioulsy has a serious medical issue."

Antidepressants are now used for pain disorders, menopause symptoms, depression caused by fatigue and stress ... the list goes on. This Coast Guardsman did the right thing by going to the doctor for help that he obviously felt he needed, regardless of the cause. His wife is doing the right thing by ensuring all the bases are covered.

As an active duty senior enlisted person, please consider all parts of the issue before making a determination like that. Junior enlisted are counting on you for your guidance, support and knowledge.

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Yes, daily sexual and verbal harassment will cause a person to be depressed. Duh.
He has had suicidal thoughts as a teenager so that is why it is labeled as remission and a permanent condition.

First off, I want to say I'm not trying to put anyone on the spot, but shouldn't the thought of suicide as a teen been brought to the Recruiter's attention?...And wouldn't this have been a disqualifier?...And if so, wouldn't it have been a fraudulent enlistment?... Now remember, I'm not trying to cause a lot of $hit, but if this is so, then maybe this should be kept to yourself...Just curious...

Gunk

I thought that also. However, again, the whole issue needs to be looked at. But, I don't think the wife should be speaking on a public forum about the teenage years. I'm sure there are a lot of things from teenage years that most of us would not like to see on a public forum.
And, then many questions. Were they just that? Thoughts? Were they ever medical evaluated when he was a teenager? I really can't remember all the ins and outs of my enlistment papers (too long ago ), but I would imagine if it were just thoughts and not medically documented anywhere, then it is probably not fraudulent enlistment.

Calling all sea lawyers, sickbay commandos, and messdeck subject matter experts...lets get back to the lady's question.

Your husband signed and agreed to one thing and now they are saying something else. Why? Although the Coast Guard appointed lawyer representing your husband is a lawyer, he is Coast Guard... Talk with the VA and talk with one of the Veteran Service Agencies - DAV, VFW, etc who help vets with their VA Claims. Find out what (as suggested) the differences between the two statements and their effects on your husband's VA Claims...they are changing it for some reason - why/what? The rest of you? Who the heck are you to disect, bisect, and otherwise diagnose and treat his problem?

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Not being a Doctor, just a layman, the change sounds reasonable. Anyone that needs to take a pill 'cuase someone picked on him, obvioulsy has a serious medical issue.

Wow. Pretty strong statement. Antidpressants have come a long way since the thought of "Anyone that needs to take a pill ' because cuase someone picked on him, obviously obvioulsy has a serious medical issue."

Antidepressants are now used for pain disorders, menopause symptoms, depression caused by fatigue and stress ... the list goes on. This Coast Guardsman did the right thing by going to the doctor for help that he obviously felt he needed, regardless of the cause. His wife is doing the right thing by ensuring all the bases are covered.

As an active duty senior enlisted person, please consider all parts of the issue before making a determination like that. Junior enlisted are counting on you for your guidance, support and knowledge.

Chief;
Thanks for the input and discussion. I have reviewed my statement and stand by it. I concur the Coastie did the right thing by going to a Dr for a serious medical condition.

Your welcome Master Chief. Take care.