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To save you some time, here's the scoop:
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Section 722 -
Makes the TRICARE program the secondary payer for any health care services provided by an employer to a TRICARE-eligible employee (and their spouse) of a public or private employer who offers a group health care plan. Prohibits public and private employers with 20 or more employees from providing a financial incentive to TRICARE-eligible retirees to utilize TRICARE as the primary payer for health care rather than the employer-sponsored group health care plan. Provides a $5,000 fine for each violation. Directs the Secretary to conduct outreach to inform TRICARE-eligible beneficiaries of the rights and responsibilities of beneficiaries and employers under this section. Makes this section effective on January 1, 2008.


What a load of crapola. I've shot off no less then 3 emails to my states rep's to blast this bill. Though it's law, doesn't mean it can't be amended. I think it's a shame that they will go after companies who go out of there way to hire vets (retired and otherwise). I've used this form of supplement and used tricare standard for 3 yeras now, they are just now finding out it's costing them? The bill, 5122 has a lot of good info in it and goes to show how they can sneek in what ever theywant, under the radar. What's next, not allowing people who work at wal-mart from shopping at the PX or Commissary? Yes, I can still use tricare, and I can get money from my company for not taking a company provided policy, but not as much. It's all about choice I guess.
 
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Well, here's one of the emails I got back.
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Dear Mr. Likens:



Thank you for contacting me about employee sponsored Tricare supplemental insurance. Your views on this issue are important to me.



You are correct. Last year’s National Defense Authorization Act contained provisions that will prevent employers from offering Tricare supplemental insurance as an incentive to encourage military retirees who work for them to drop employer-provided health plans and use their Tricare benefits instead. These provisions will take effect on January 1, 2008.



This legislation was initiated after evidence showed that many employers were consciously working to shift their health care costs to the federal government by offering financial incentives urging eligible employees to use Tricare rather than the employer’s health care plan. Congress cannot afford to underwrite the health care costs that should be bourn by employers. Private companies should pay the full costs of the health insurance they provide and should not be allowed to shift these costs on to the federal government.



That said, Tricare beneficiaries have earned their right to Tricare benefits through their service and under this legislation these benefits will remain unchanged. In addition, this legislation does not impact Tricare Supplement plans offered by beneficiary associations or commercial insurers.



I recently opposed proposals by the Bush Administration to significantly increase Tricare fees for military retirees their dependents. The 2008 National Defense Authorization Act, passed by both the House and Senate, would prohibit the increase of Tricare fees, would freeze current pharmacy co-payment fees and would encourage pharmacies in the Tricare retail network to obtain pharmaceuticals at the same price that is available to Federal agencies, including the Department of Defense and VA. Please be assured of strong support for freezing Tricare and pharmacy co-payment fees and of my continued commitment to improving healthcare for military retirees.

I hope you will continue to stay in touch on issues of concern to you. If you would like to receive weekly updates on the activities in Congress, please sign up for my weekly e-mail newsletter on my website. Thank you again for taking the time to contact me.



Sincerely,



Sander M. Levin

Member of Congress

 
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Here is a new twist on this subject. My employer Embarq (previously Sprint's Local Telephone Division) has taken this legislation to the other extreme. They have denied TRICARE as a waiverable Employee Sponsored Group Plan and FORCING me to take THEIR Health Care!! This places TRICARE into secondary payment position AND STRIPS A NICE $1800+ OUT OF MY POCKET for 2008! I spoke with TRICARE and the Federal Department of Labor whom both stated that this didn't sound correct. After a few heated emails back and forth between myself and Human Resources without result, I fired a final volley off to my entire management chain to include the CEO noting that the issue would land in my senator's office the next day (which it did). The following day, I received a long-winded, legalese reply from the Director of Benefits with attachements, etc... which I promptly fowarded on to the senator's office including my last reply to the corporate buzzards stating it isn't over till TRICARE, DOL and the Senartor say it is.
 
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Geeze... I had a question for 811, but he is no longer a member of military.com according to his profile....

wonder why he bothered to post.

Wray... Cool
 
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Originally posted by 13015811:
Here is a new twist on this subject. My employer Embarq (previously Sprint's Local Telephone Division) has taken this legislation to the other extreme. They have denied TRICARE as a waiverable Employee Sponsored Group Plan and FORCING me to take THEIR Health Care!! This places TRICARE into secondary payment position AND STRIPS A NICE $1800+ OUT OF MY POCKET for 2008! I spoke with TRICARE and the Federal Department of Labor whom both stated that this didn't sound correct. After a few heated emails back and forth between myself and Human Resources without result, I fired a final volley off to my entire management chain to include the CEO noting that the issue would land in my senator's office the next day (which it did). The following day, I received a long-winded, legalese reply from the Director of Benefits with attachements, etc... which I promptly fowarded on to the senator's office including my last reply to the corporate buzzards stating it isn't over till TRICARE, DOL and the Senartor say it is.


I believe that this may be governed by ERISA, managed by the US Dept of Labor. You can find information at:
http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/health-plans/erisa.htm
 
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Originally posted by Dave_M:
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Originally posted by 13015811:
Here is a new twist on this subject. My employer Embarq (previously Sprint's Local Telephone Division) has taken this legislation to the other extreme. They have denied TRICARE as a waiverable Employee Sponsored Group Plan and FORCING me to take THEIR Health Care!! This places TRICARE into secondary payment position AND STRIPS A NICE $1800+ OUT OF MY POCKET for 2008! I spoke with TRICARE and the Federal Department of Labor whom both stated that this didn't sound correct. After a few heated emails back and forth between myself and Human Resources without result, I fired a final volley off to my entire management chain to include the CEO noting that the issue would land in my senator's office the next day (which it did). The following day, I received a long-winded, legalese reply from the Director of Benefits with attachements, etc... which I promptly fowarded on to the senator's office including my last reply to the corporate buzzards stating it isn't over till TRICARE, DOL and the Senartor say it is.


I believe that this may be governed by ERISA, managed by the US Dept of Labor. You can find information at:
http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/health-plans/erisa.htm


E.R.I.S.A. Everyone's Retirement Is SPENT Anyway?
 
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I think what 811 didn't clarify is most companies offer health care or you can elect not the take it. I doubt his company or any would FORCE you to take coverage if they allow others to opt out. We have people who's wives work for universities and medical facilites who have better health care. The company doesn't care. If you opt out of coverage, you get 700.00 bucks over a years time for not taking coverage. Had he/she not cut and run, maybe 811 could re-think the post. My company makes you take prescription coverage if you take medical coverage. Even though I can use tricare for this, I'm still forced to take it. Even if I didn't have tricare, why do I need to select a seperate rider for drugs? And isn't it amazing from the letter TC1USCG got that they are onboard for curbing costs to the govt, but they won't do anything to get the healthcare system in check. One word - chicken$hits
 
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If you opt out of coverage, you get 700.00 bucks over a years time for not taking coverage.


Confused Is this a bonus for not using the health care policy of the company?
 
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Originally posted by 13015811:
Here is a new twist on this subject. My employer Embarq (previously Sprint's Local Telephone Division) has taken this legislation to the other extreme. They have denied TRICARE as a waiverable Employee Sponsored Group Plan and FORCING me to take THEIR Health Care!! This places TRICARE into secondary payment position AND STRIPS A NICE $1800+ OUT OF MY POCKET for 2008! I spoke with TRICARE and the Federal Department of Labor whom both stated that this didn't sound correct. After a few heated emails back and forth between myself and Human Resources without result, I fired a final volley off to my entire management chain to include the CEO noting that the issue would land in my senator's office the next day (which it did). The following day, I received a long-winded, legalese reply from the Director of Benefits with attachements, etc... which I promptly fowarded on to the senator's office including my last reply to the corporate buzzards stating it isn't over till TRICARE, DOL and the Senartor say it is.


I work for Embarq also, please email me at nole1973@earthlink. I have been working with Representative Jeff Miller's office in Pensacola, Fl. and need to talk to all Embarq employees affected by Embarq's actions.
 
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Originally posted by 13015811:
Here is a new twist on this subject. My employer Embarq (previously Sprint's Local Telephone Division) has taken this legislation to the other extreme. They have denied TRICARE as a waiverable Employee Sponsored Group Plan and FORCING me to take THEIR Health Care!! This places TRICARE into secondary payment position AND STRIPS A NICE $1800+ OUT OF MY POCKET for 2008! I spoke with TRICARE and the Federal Department of Labor whom both stated that this didn't sound correct. After a few heated emails back and forth between myself and Human Resources without result, I fired a final volley off to my entire management chain to include the CEO noting that the issue would land in my senator's office the next day (which it did). The following day, I received a long-winded, legalese reply from the Director of Benefits with attachements, etc... which I promptly fowarded on to the senator's office including my last reply to the corporate buzzards stating it isn't over till TRICARE, DOL and the Senartor say it is.


I am also an Embarq employee please contact me at nole1973@earthlink.net. I have been working with US Rep. Jeff Miller's office and would like to share my information with you.
 
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