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i was browsing the web, and some forums people was talking about a passage that is in the book of nostradamus.

The two equines will fight like a panther and a tigress
For residence in the great white stables
The dark one will win, but at a terribly unjust price
And shall easily be defeated by the Elephant

http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=30021


Makes sense to me....lol
 
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As a researcher of Nostradamus quatrains for many years, I can tell you that no such quatrain exsists in his writting. Not one that specific anyway.

I did find this interesting in that thread:


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An Extremely Concise Overview of the Entire Future:

In 2008, Hillary Rodham Clinton will be elected President of the United States.
2009/2010 to 2039/2040: the first part of the tribulation, including the first Six Seals and the first Six Trumpets.
2009: April 10th, The Warning of Garabandal = The First Secret of Medjugorje = The Day of Repentance
2009: April 12th, The Second Secret of Medjugorje = The Day of Consolation
2009: U.S. President Hillary Clinton becomes Prolife.
2009: Pope Benedict XVI suggests building a Church, a Temple, and a Mosque in Jerusalem.
2009: A small war among the Arab/Muslim nations consolidates power with extremist leaders. Iran and Iraq lead them.
2009/2010: Pope Benedict XVI dies. The next Pope, Peter the Roman, enforces true doctrine and practice, resulting in the great apostasy.
2010: May 13th, The Miracle of Garabandal = The Third Secret of Medjugorje = The Day of Healing
The First Seal and First Horseman of the Apocalypse: World War 3
2010: New York City is struck by a nuclear bomb, sometime between June 1 and December 31; World War 3 begins.
2012: The Pope, Peter the Roman, is captured during the war, tried, convicted, blinded, and imprisoned.
2012: Rome is captured by the Arab forces; they devastate Vatican City and the churches of Rome.
2012/2013: Two Popes are elected outside of Rome: one true Pope and one well-meaning antipope.
2013: Allied forces recapture Rome; the true Pope and the antipope both go to Rome.
July of 2013: Rome is struck by a nuclear missile; both the Pope and the antipope are killed.
2010 to 2018/19: World War 3. The Arab forces conquer Europe, Scandinavia, parts of Eastern Europe, northern Africa.


and it continues:

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The Second Seal and Second Horseman of the Apocalypse: Worldwide Civil Unrest and Violence
2010/2011 to 2018/2019: the civil unrest is more widespread than World War 3, including rioting, street crimes, etc.
The Third Seal and Third Horseman of the Apocalypse: The Great Famine of the 21st Century
2013 to 2020 or so: Most severe in Europe, the great famine affects developed nations more than poor nations.
2013 to 2019: During the Famine, like the Prodigal Son, the Protestant Churches repent and seek unity with Catholicism.
The Fourth Seal and Fourth Horseman of the Apocalypse: Death from a Variety of Causes
2014 to 2020 or so: Many others die from a variety of other causes (not directly from war, civil violence, and famine).
The Inter-war Period between World Wars 3 and 4
2020 to early 2030's: The Arab forces occupy and oppress a vast territory; Christians are persecuted.
2020 to 2023: Unification: the Church is restructured into seven parts: 5 for the formerly Protestant Churches, which have repented and joined the Catholic Church; one for the Latin Rite; one for the Eastern Churches.
2022: A Pope is elected who is not Roman Catholic; he is one of the converts from Protestantism.
late 2020's: The persecution of Christians in the occupied territories increases more and more.
2028 to 2032: An Ecumenical Council is held to deal with problems caused by Unification.
The Fifth Seal: The Great Martyrdom
early 2030's: Christians are massacred in the occupied territories. It will be more severe than the Jewish Holocaust.
The Sixth Seal: World War 4 - an all-out nuclear war
about 2033 to 2037: Spurred by the great massacre of Christians, with approval from the Angelic Shepherd, the U.S. and its Allies, and the great Catholic monarch, attack the occupied territories. The Allies call upon the help of Almighty God, and they win the war, but at great cost. Both sides use many nuclear weapons. Millions upon millions are killed.
about 2037: The most faithful Servants of God are given a visible Seal on their foreheads. They are protected by God.
The Seveth Seal is divided into Seven Trumpets - only Six of the Seven Trumpets are for this generation
First Trumpet (2038) Pieces of broken Comet Tempel 1 fall to earth and burn up 1/3 of the land.
Second Trumpet (2038) One large piece of the same comet falls into the ocean causing great destruction.
Third Trumpet (2038/2039) Nuclear fallout from the war, and ash from the fires of the comet, contaminate the waters.
Fourth Trumpet (2038/2039) Nuclear Winter, due to World War and the effects of the comet pieces.
Fifth Trumpet (5 months in 2039) Something like locusts, but not natural, afflicts anyone without the Seal.
Sixth Trumpet (March 29, 30, 31 of 2040) Three Days of Darkness kills 1/3 of humanity, then the planet is healed by God.
2040's and 2050's: the reign of the great monarch and the Angelic Shepherd; a time of relative peace and holiness.
last part of the 21st century: the great monarch's kingdom is divided into four less holy kingdoms.
22nd century: The world continues to become more sinful. Russia becomes the dominent world power.
23rd century: Africa, India, and China become allies and the dominent world power, causing much harm.
24th century: The reign of the ten kings begins. Nine of the ten kingdoms reject Christianity very thoroughly. The one that includes Israel tolerates Christianity. There is very much sin in the world, and even in the Church.
25th century - the 2420's: The Antichrist rises to power in the kingdom of the North (Europe). He fights within that kingdom to increase his power to the point of dictatorship.
2430: The Antichrist defeats the Christian king of the South (Israel, Middle East, Northern Africa). The Pope of that time, the last true Pope before the return of Christ, is killed.
2430/2431: The Antichrist defeats the kings of Africa and of the East; he now controls two more kingdoms.
2431: The other six kingdoms submit to him. The symbolic beast with ten horns and seven heads is the ten kingdoms led by these seven leaders: the Antichrist plus the six remaining kings.
2431 to 2437: The nearly seven years of the reign of the Antichrist.
the first half of his reign: the Antichrist consolidates power worldwide by military force; he greatly exalts himself.
the second half of his reign: the Antichrist loses a battle to Christians. He then tries to destroy the Church by giving power and approval to apostates and heretics. The false prophet is a woman who is an antipope. The two prophets of Rev. 11 preach the truth. They are killed, raised from the dead, and assumed into Heaven.
2437: The Antichrist attempts a fake ascension into the sky. The Archangel Michael throws him down; he is broken but not dead. His reign ends. Faithful Christians go out and preach the Gospel, seeking repentant sinners.
2437: Jesus Christ returns with the Virgin Mary. More time for preaching and repentence is given.
2438/2439: The Seven Bowls of God's Wrath (i.e. the Seventh Trumpet) is given to the unrepentent wicked of the world.
about 2439/2440: The first Resurrection, for those who died as martyrs (and perhaps some Saints who lived as marytrs)
Thereafter: Then Jesus ascends to Heaven (Second Ascension) and Mary is assumed into Heaven (Second Assumption).
Next: Jesus sends the Holy Spirit (Second Pentecost), this time on the whole world.
Then, beginning in the 2440's: The Millennium of peace and holiness, when Christ reigns, not in the flesh, but in the Eucharist, and through the other Sacraments, and through Tradition, Scripture, Magisterium.
* * * * * * * * * * * * The Millennium continues for well over a thousand years * * * * * * * * * * * *
And then: The events of Revelation 20:7-9 occur: a rebellion against all that is holy; but the rebels are destroyed by God.
And sometime after that: The General Resurrection of the just and unjust.
And at that time: God takes away Heaven and Purgatory and Earth and Hell. And God makes a new Heaven and a new Earth and a new Hell. But Purgatory is no longer needed "...and death shall be no more." (Rev. 21:4).
And after that who knows?


by Ronald L. Conte Jr.
last updated November 5, 2006


Interesting author name.

I think the first part isnt going to happen.

T
 
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A Snopes search reveals no such thing....

check it out yourself....

http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=Nostradamus+predic...-c=100&sp-m=1&sp-s=0

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"Quatrain" Your a pisser Tony! Thanks for teaching and sharing!

Peace,
Dick
 
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Originally posted by militia1:
Then, beginning in the 2440's:


OK, I volunteer to keep tabs on this, and update this thread at that time.
 
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I think the first part isnt going to happen.



Wow, who knew that Hillary not getting the nomination would upset God's entire plan for the future?
 
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Wow, who knew that Hillary not getting the nomination would upset God's entire plan for the future?


True, we can put of Armageddon for at least a few years. If Obama gets elected, its back on.

T
 
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Wow, who knew that Hillary not getting the nomination would upset God's entire plan for the future?


True, we can put of Armageddon for at least a few years. If Obama gets elected, its back on.

T


Really? How so?
 
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By just being elected. I believe it increases our chances by at least 90%. Leaving a 10% chance of any hope at all.

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Originally posted by militia1:
By just being elected. I believe it increases our chances by at least 90%. Leaving a 10% chance of any hope at all.

T


Okay, I'll bite. How does electing Obama President increase the chances of Armageddon?
 
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It has to do with peace through strengh no offense meat..but you will never understand.

liberals believe in a perfect world free of everything..war..poverty..where crime is,nt punished...love the john lennon advitar makes you look quiet cool.... Cool
 
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You're right, Spacey. I will never understand you. You didn't answer the question (posed to Militia, by the way), at all.

And, thanks for the word on my avatar. It's a still from the "Imagine" video. I think that, lyrically, "Imagine" was the greatest song ever written.
 
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Too sappy! I think he wrote better songs in his early years with McCartney and the band!

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Originally posted by asm3driscoll:
Too sappy! I think he wrote better songs in his early years with McCartney and the band!


I love the Beatles' stuff, too. But everything I believe in is in the words of "Imagine".
 
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Yah, well everything I believe is contained in words of "George Jones and George Dickel" ...

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Give me some George Jones and some George Dickel,
put a glass in my hand and strike up a fiddle.
I'll dance all night and still be humming when the sun comes up.

Give me some neon lights and a hardwood dance floor,
I'll forget about her and I won't cry anymore.
I'll be alright little by little,
with the help of George Jones and George Dickel.
 
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Originally posted by SociallyAutistic:
Yah, well everything I believe is contained in words of "George Jones and George Dickel" ...

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Give me some George Jones and some George Dickel,
put a glass in my hand and strike up a fiddle.
I'll dance all night and still be humming when the sun comes up.

Give me some neon lights and a hardwood dance floor,
I'll forget about her and I won't cry anymore.
I'll be alright little by little,
with the help of George Jones and George Dickel.


Well, there's something to be said for that, too.
 
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"instant Karma"
 
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Never bothered to read Nostradamus.

Lennon was a good writer, maybe a little idealistic in some of his lyrics....Imagine being one of them.

George Jones asks a good question that applies to many good people......good vid and song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJExsOcqDFs&feature=related
 
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Never bothered to read Nostradamus.

Lennon was a good writer, maybe a little idealistic in some of his lyrics....Imagine being one of them.

George Jones asks a good question that applies to many good people......good vid and song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJExsOcqDFs&feature=related


Hey, John, they locked us out of the thread we were debating on. Anytime you want to resume our debate, just let me know.
 
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