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I got thru PT-ing this morning and walked by the tube and seen Prez Obama was given a Nobel Peace Prize (NPP). I thought hmmmm!....the guy has only been President for 9 months or so and hasn't accomplished much at this point??? I did some quick research and seen one 2008 link that stated 76 American Nobel Laureates (past winners) voted for then Candidate Obama for his visionary importance/use of science.

I see this as another check in the "lack of credibility" box for the NPP. I do not have any problem if at the end of his term(s) he has done something worthy and gets it. But 9 months or so into his term and nothing to show for it?? One blogger on that link noted that none of those laureates were economic laureates. Great observation!!

I don't point the finger at the Prez at all...this is strictly a credibility issue with the NPP program. I think it would be a classy move for the Prez to refuse it until the end of his term(s) and then if his accomplishments are worthy, award away.

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Who were the other candidates for the NPP?
I have to admit it is a shocker to me as well, but I can't drink the hato-rade on him since I don't know anything on his past accomplishments prior to being president. Let alone, I'll be the first to admit...1.4 million dollars is hard to pass on by.
 
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As I mentioned above, I'm in no way faulting the Prez here. The target is the NPP folks. As I understand the process in this case....he was selected on Feb 1st, just a few days after taking the Office of the Prez. The NPP guy eluded to the fact he (the Prez) was elected on his vision. He didn't mention anything about results. Confused
 
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If you are good at doing nothing you could win one too!
 
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Hector, his prior experience was being a community organizer, a la ACORN, and being "present" for votes in the Illinois State legislature.

I can think of thousands of people I've met who are more deserving if we have reduced the Nobel Prize to the level of a Cracker Jack toy.
 
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John;
Minor correction - he would have been nominated prior to 1 Feb, not selected. Selection was now. But yeah, complete BS and nothing but lack of cread and integrity on the committee.
 
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The nomination had to have been made within the first 14 days of his serving as president. The ONLY thing he had done at that time was to NOT be President Bush. That’s it. He was not President Bush.

Wow! What an accomplishment!

That said I felt something was up and coming when President Obama stated that he didn’t want to use the word “victory” when talking about the war on terrorism. I guess that we would not want to win a war, would we… The rest of the world might hate us and think we are mean… as they dance in the streets as over 3,000 people burn to death!

Also, I do not blame President Obama for ‘winning’ this award. Plus it makes up for losing the Olympics. But the respectability and credibility of the Noble Peace Prize committee is lost to all except liberals. They, of course, love this selection!

edge, don't insult Cracker Jack like that! Wink
 
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I have to say, I'm not sure what he did to deserve it..LOL.
 
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The honorable thing to do would be to decline the award. Release a statement saying that I am humbled at the selection, blah, blah, blah...and that I look forward to the day when my plans for a peaceful world have come to fruition.

But like I said, that would be an honorable thing to do...
 
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Here is a totally approved live hot link!

http://www.military.com/news/a...bel-peace-prize.html

My favorite parts.
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The stunning choice made Obama the third sitting U.S. president to win the Nobel Peace Prize and shocked Nobel observers because Obama took office less than two weeks before the Feb. 1 nomination deadline. Obama's name had been mentioned in speculation before the award but many Nobel watchers believed it was too early to award the president.


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The committee has taken a wide interpretation of Nobel's guidelines, expanding the prize beyond peace mediation to include efforts to combat poverty, disease and climate change.
 
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The NPP lost it's credibility with me when they awarded Gore. I got a kick out of Disagreeds comment though...

"The nomination had to have been made within the first 14 days of his serving as president. The ONLY thing he had done at that time was to NOT be President Bush. That’s it. He was not President Bush."

Still, this is pretty much a non issue, it would be impossible for me to care less.
 
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looking at some of the previous award winners, Carter etc I've come to the conclusion one must be a card carring member of the left in order to be in the running. Roll Eyes
 
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looking at some of the previous award winners, Carter etc I've come to the conclusion one must be a card carring member of the left in order to be in the running. Roll Eyes


hmmm makes one wonder... Polanski might be next?
 
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John;
Minor correction - he would have been nominated prior to 1 Feb, not selected. Selection was now. But yeah, complete BS and nothing but lack of cread and integrity on the committee.


Phil,

Roger that. I realized that after hitting post.

The NPP process is an odd deal. I did a Wiki on it and it's very interpretive. Some notable nominees.....Hitler (later withdrawn), Stalin and Mussolini. You have to be alive to get the Nobel Peace Prize (there's 5 or 6 types of Nobel Prizes...economics, science, etc). I think it was why Ghandi never got it. It is named after Alfred Nobel, inventer of dynamite and another explosive. He set up the program and bequethed the money for it in his will. Very interesting history of it......
 
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I betcha the Beer Summit was the deciding factor. Big Grin
 
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looking at some of the previous award winners, Carter etc I've come to the conclusion one must be a card carring member of the left in order to be in the running. Roll Eyes


You don't think Carter deserved it?? Yikes tough critic..

He only coordinated a PERMANENT peace agreement between a Egypt and Israel. Keep in mind these two countries were at war with each other just a decade prior in the 1967 War. Naaaaaah, he didn't deserve it. Roll Eyes
 
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I betcha the Beer Summit was the deciding factor. Big Grin



mmmm mmmm mmmm!
 
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looking at some of the previous award winners, Carter etc I've come to the conclusion one must be a card carring member of the left in order to be in the running. Roll Eyes


You don't think Carter deserved it?? Yikes tough critic..

He only coordinated a PERMANENT peace agreement between a Egypt and Israel. Keep in mind these two countries were at war with each other just a decade prior in the 1967 War. Naaaaaah, he didn't deserve it. Roll Eyes


Sorry to have hurt your feelings there DJ. Frown I'm just not a Carter fan, especialy now days!!!!! Wink
 
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I'm not a President Carter fan either - lived through him while serving and trying to stay afloat on the interest/inflation...

HOWEVER.. at least he had a track record, a vitae of accomplishments, that could at least be interpreted as worthy of nomination for the award. Regardless of what he turned into today - or whether his efforts eventual became moot or unworkable... so President Obama may eventually become another Carter (likely); however, the comparison of his accomplishments (huh?) to those of President Carter re: peace prize - is off base.

My 2 cents.
Best Wishes
 
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Nobel Prizes + Jimmy Carter + Al Gore + BObama = no credibility what so ever !!
 
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