I wont post any paragraphs from the link just because im ignorant on the copy-write laws. Better safe than sorry i guess. Anyway here it is.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/24/eveningnews/m...source=mostpop_story

If we somehow end up attacking Iran I would almost bet that Russia will be getting involved. This could be the start of something big especially with H. Con. Res. 362 which was introduced on May 22nd which has 146 cosponsors. Things are stating to heat up.

If the US does not, Israel will do it. Already in practice with it in Israel. When you know that somebody is out to take you out, it is imperative to strike when you have a chance. A large portion of the world ignored Hitler, too, and in time it became the problem of the whole world. This is not just an ME problem. It is a European problem down the road and a North American problem, and the rest of the world.

Thank G-d for Cheney and others who stood up to Iraq's reactor being taken out in 1981.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2295792449224502914

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Originally posted by DonnyBee:
If the US does not, Israel will do it. Already in practice with it in Israel. When you know that somebody is out to take you out, it is imperative to strike when you have a chance. A large portion of the world ignored Hitler, too, and in time it became the problem of the whole world. This is not just an ME problem. It is a European problem down the road and a North American problem, and the rest of the world.

Thank G-d for Cheney and others who stood up to Iraq's reactor being taken out in 1981.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2295792449224502914

If we get involved i would love to know how we are going to fund this endeavor. This is going to be much larger than the Iraq debacle if it happens. The only thing that might stop us from conducting these operations is the fact that Iran has Russia on their side.

Attacking Iran would be a serious mistake. Condoning Israel's attack of Iran would be a larger mistake. They are about to toss Ahmadinnerjacket out on his butt. An attack would only keep him in power.

I'm thinking an industrial accident would be very timely!

Who came up with that idea? Isn't it enough when American troops are in Afghanistan, and Iraq (I think) If we get into another country the troops would be spread thin.........

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Who came up with that idea? Isn't it enough when American troops are in Afghanistan, and Iraq (I think) If we get into another country the troops would be spread thin.........

Dont forget about the military personnel we have in the other 128 countries. Spread to thin is spot on.

Russia would love for us to be drawn into a conflict with Iran. Very much like we did to them in the 80's in Afganistan, they would back the Iranians to tie us up and commit our military to that conflict thereby allowing Russia to persue other military interests unchallenged.

There's many ways to stop this program without going to war. Its time to be creative.

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If we get involved i would love to know how we are going to fund this endeavor.

The back of our money should read "made in China". We borrow money from evil, to fight evil. Genius idea.

I see this going down that Isreal launches a "renegade" strike when they feel like doing so. US will not say much other than Isreal has a right to exsist, but behind the scenes, you better believe the US supported it.

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I see this going down that Isreal launches a "renegade" strike when they feel like doing so. US will not say much other than Isreal has a right to exsist, but behind the scenes, you better believe the US supported it.

T

I totally agree with you on this one, Militia. It's just like the recent business in Lebanon. Israel's military is basically just another branch of the U.S. military.

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I see this going down that Isreal launches a "renegade" strike when they feel like doing so. US will not say much other than Isreal has a right to exsist, but behind the scenes, you better believe the US supported it.

T

If it does happen i think this would be the best option. However, I feel it will all get kicked back to us due to the fact that we supply Israel with the funds to accomplish such a mission. If our military gets involved or not i dont think it will look good in the eyes of the middle east countries. Let Israel do as they wish though.

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Originally posted by militia1:
I see this going down that Isreal launches a "renegade" strike when they feel like doing so. US will not say much other than Isreal has a right to exsist, but behind the scenes, you better believe the US supported it.

T

If it does happen i think this would be the best option. However, I feel it will all get kicked back to us due to the fact that we supply Israel with the funds to accomplish such a mission. If our military gets involved or not i dont think it will look good in the eyes of the middle east countries. Let Israel do as they wish though.

Interesting point. What are the possible outcomes? Israel attacks Iran. Arabs throughout the Middle East become enraged, stepping up terrorist attacks in Israel. Realizing that the United States supplies Israel's military and supports her in every way, perhaps some Saudi citizens launch a terrorist attack against the United States. The United States retaliates by invading Iran.

This has a familiar ring to it...

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Originally posted by militia1:
I see this going down that Isreal launches a "renegade" strike when they feel like doing so. US will not say much other than Isreal has a right to exsist, but behind the scenes, you better believe the US supported it.

T

If it does happen i think this would be the best option. However, I feel it will all get kicked back to us due to the fact that we supply Israel with the funds to accomplish such a mission. If our military gets involved or not i dont think it will look good in the eyes of the middle east countries. Let Israel do as they wish though.

Interesting point. What are the possible outcomes? Israel attacks Iran. Arabs throughout the Middle East become enraged, stepping up terrorist attacks in Israel. Realizing that the United States supplies Israel's military and supports her in every way, perhaps some Saudi citizens launch a terrorist attack against the United States. The United States retaliates by invading Iran.

This has a familiar ring to it...

It is no big secret that we provide Israel with funds for decades. The cat is already out of the bag on this one. I guess all we can do is cross our fingers and hope it doesn't happen.

Keep in mind Iran has approximately 2.5 times the population of Iraq and is a mountainous country. This would not be a quick "Mission Accomplished" scenario.

As a follow up, Iran responds by ordering Hezbollah to fire Kyetusha rockets across the border from Lebanon. Several suicide bombers strike in Tel Aviv, and border forces in Gaza and the West Bank are targeted. While Iran wants to show off their air force in a counter strike, those forces are silent, and stay silent. They do so because they know Isreal has superior air fire power, and the US has two carrier strike groups just off shore.

Hezbollah will be hesitant to get involved at first because they know for a fact that doing so invites a full Israeli response and invasion of Lebanon. They have no choice though when Iran makes it clear that they supply the groups weapons and funding.

Violence in Iraq may or may not increase as Iran begins concentrating on Isreal. The key here, is does an Isreal strike piss off other Arab countries such as Syria. All bets are off at that point as that opens the gate for several border assaults. Not sure any of those nations will ever invade Isreal. They know all to well that Isreal will only use nukes as a last defense, and if you dont have one, you dont invade a country that does.

I suspect Isreal will call the US President when the planes are in the air.

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Here's the plan: You use powdered Boron, which stifles all nuclear fission process thru neutron absorption - it's used as a final emergency shutdown on most reactors.

Then, we get a whole buncha crop duster planes, and just blanket the whole country with the stuff. Eventually, somebody's gonna track the crap indoors, and Poof! No more fission! Or maybe we'll get lucky and dust a nuke facility air ducts like Sevin powder on yer termato plants ...

I'm telling you a well planned industrial accident is the way to go here, with visa's and jobs at Stanford-MIT-Harvard etc... for the family's involved, followed by a regime change.

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I totally agree with you on this one, Militia. It's just like the recent business in Lebanon. Israel's military is basically just another branch of the U.S. military.

While I agree in principle on what you said for this instance, don't ever be fooled to think that Isreal gives a fetid dingo's kidney about what the US says/thinks/wants. They are pretty arrogant and think that they could take us down in a war if push came to shove.

When our interests are parallel, then Isreal is very much like an arm of our military, but they wouldn't think twice about doing anything unilaterally without any consent of us, or anyone else.

Isreal is kinda scary.

To touch on the OP's point. I saw an interview with Shimoan Perez a couple of years ago, in which he actually said that we should invade Iran. The leadership of Isreal is very manipulative and not too trustworthy. They would prefer if we stepped in so they wouldn't look like that bad guy while we actually advanced their agenda.

Who's the real puppet?