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From http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_se...001324----000-.html:

Any person who—

(iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or
(v)
(I) engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
(II) aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,
shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).

(B) A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs—
(i) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i) or (v)(I) or in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), or (iv) in which the offense was done for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both;
(ii) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), (iv), or (v)(II), be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both;

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From http://www.laalmanac.com/immigration/im04a.htm:

According to U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services (CIS), an estimated 2,209,000 illegal immigrants
resided in California in 2000, up from 1,476,000 in 1990. This number represented about 32 percent of the
entire estimated illegal immigrant population in the United States (then estimated to be about seven million).

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From www.amlegal.com:
LOS ANGELES CITY MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER IV ARTICLE 1 SEC. 41.18. SIDEWALKS, PEDESTRIAN SUBWAYS – LOITERING.
(a) No person shall stand in or upon any street, sidewalk or other public way open for pedestrian travel or otherwise occupy any portion thereof in such a manner as to annoy or molest any pedestrian thereon or so as to obstruct or unreasonably interfere with the free passage of pedestrians. (Amended by Ord. No. 137,269, Eff. 10/21/68.)

(b) No person shall loiter in any tunnel, pedestrian subway, or on any bridge overpass, or at or near the entrance thereto or exit therefrom, or at or near any abutment or retaining wall adjacent to such entrance or exit, or any retaining wall or abutment adjacent to any freeway, street or highway open and used for vehicular traffic, or adjacent to that portion thereof used for vehicular traffic, or on any public property in the proximity of such bridge, overpass, or retaining wall or abutment.

(c) No person in or about any pedestrian subway, shall annoy or molest another or make any remark to or concerning another to the annoyance of such other person, and no person shall commit any nuisance in or about such subway.

(d) (Amended by Ord. No. 137,269, Eff. 10/21/68.) No person shall sit, lie or sleep in or upon any street, sidewalk or other public way.

The provisions of this subsection shall not apply to persons sitting on the curb portion of any sidewalk or street while attending or viewing any parade permitted under the provisions of Section 103.111 of Article 2, Chapter X of this Code; nor shall the provisions of this subsection apply to persons sitting upon benches or other seating facilities provided for such purpose by municipal authority or permitted by this Code.

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LOS ANGELES MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER IV ARTICLE 1 SEC. 41.47.2. URINATING OR DEFECATING IN PUBLIC.
(Added by Ord. No. 175,626, Eff. 12/16/03.)

No person shall urinate or defecate in or upon any public street, sidewalk, alley, plaza, beach, park, public building or other publicly maintained facility or place, or in any place open to the public or exposed to public view, except when using a urinal, toilet or commode located in a restroom, or when using a portable or temporary toilet or other facility designed for the sanitary disposal of human waste and which is enclosed from public view.

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Who's to say that all day laborers are illegals? Some of them might be hard working Americans that aren't exactly "skilled" workers. That's a bold assumption to be making.

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These people are violating and have violated the law! Arrest them and send them back where they came from, or fine/jail them if they are here legally!

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Originally posted by mabwood:

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These people are violating and have violated the law! Arrest them and send them back where they came from, or fine/jail them if they are here legally!

A waste of taxpayer's money. Take illegals back across the border and I gaurantee you that they'll be back in this nation within a week working somewhere else.

The U.S. Government is really not serious about protecting our borders or enforcing immigration laws.

Ask yourselves how much by way of influence do companies who hire illegals in the underground economy have on U.S. Government officials, both elected and within the appointed bureaucracy?

Also ask yourself, since government seems to enforce immigration laws selectively (cafeteria style), what other laws are being ignored?

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Heck the employer not only doesn't have to worry about employee moral, he probably wouldn't even understand them if they complained.

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Originally posted by Hooligan1790:

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Heck the employer not only doesn't have to worry about employee moral, he probably wouldn't even understand them if they complained.

Yep being illegal automatically makes you ignorant and illiterate. Is arrogant spelled with one r or two?

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Originally posted by stormer73:
Here in San Pedro the councilwoman has set up a special place for illegals, bathrooms etc. They work cheap They live 5 or 6 to a room. They send the money they earn back to Mexico. What's wrong with this picture?

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Originally posted by djwright4341:

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Originally posted by stormer73:
Here in San Pedro the councilwoman has set up a special place for illegals, bathrooms etc. They work cheap They live 5 or 6 to a room. They send the money they earn back to Mexico. What's wrong with this picture?

I still don't understand politician's motivation for doing stuff like this. The illegals are probably working for cash under the table, so they aren't paying any taxes; they're living as cheaply as possible so they aren't contributing that much to the economy; and they're sending their money back to Mexico, so their family must be back there and not here. What gives?

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Clearly - I was referring to the language barrier.

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Entitlements as human beings - placing the rights of illegal aliens above the rights of legal citizens, not holding the illegals to accountability for their illegal status, instead listening to the mantra no human is illegal - Poor interpretation of the Constitution...

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Originally posted by scrounge:
Entitlements as human beings - placing the rights of illegal aliens above the rights of legal citizens, not holding the illegals to accountability for their illegal status, instead listening to the mantra no human is illegal - Poor interpretation of the Constitution...

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If the weather is foul or bathrooms are needed, they cross the street and use the Police station facilities.

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Originally posted by fiszotcg:
Here in Manasquan, New Jersey, our 'daily labor pool' at the supermarket doesn't need shelters or bathrooms. If the weather is foul or bathrooms are needed, they cross the street and use the Police station facilities.

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These people are violating and have violated the law! Arrest them and send them back where they came from, or fine/jail them if they are here legally!

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[size=16pt]AMERICAN STORY
Immigrant son wrestles to gold for New World[/size]

Peter Fimrite, San Francisco Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, August 20, 2008


(08-20) 04:00 PDT Beijing --

The golden dreams of Henry Cejudo, the poor child of illegal immigrants from Mexico who wrestled his way out of a troubled childhood, were realized Tuesday when he became the youngest Olympic freestyle wrestling champion in American history.

The hard-fought victory over Tomohiro Matsunaga of Japan was the culmination of a lifetime of struggle, hard work, emotional trauma and steely determination. And, in the end, all the pent-up emotion came out as time ran out in the match at China Agricultural University Gymnasium.

Cejudo, 21, collapsed to his knees and wept.

"This is what I always wanted. The frustration was let out after all the hard work," the Los Angeles-born Cejudo said after circling the gymnasium draped in an American flag and accepting the gold medal in front of family, friends and a large group of cheering fans. "I'm living the American dream right now, man. The United States is the land of opportunity."

The 5-foot-4, 121-pounder won his weight class (55 kg) using a combination of constant motion, intense aggression and lightning speed, falling behind in every one of his matches and then scrambling back with unorthodox moves and an innate ability to find the legs of his opponents.

The victory was the first American Olympic freestyle gold medal in this weight class since 1904.


Cejudo's father was in and out of jail. In 1991, his mother, Nelly Rico, left Cejudo's father and moved to Las Cruces, N.M. with her six children, including 4-year-old Henry.

The family moved to Phoenix two years later, where Rico had to work two jobs most of the time to support her family. The family often was forced to share living space with other families, sometimes squeezing four or more into a single bed, according to family members.

Henry was a fighter from an early age, often taking on his brother Angel, who is 16 months older.

"He was tough, man," Angel said. "He didn't let (anybody) push him around."

Wrestling was the perfect outlet and both brothers took up the sport when they were teenagers. Angel had a 150-0 record and won four Arizona state high schools championships. He was so good that he was invited by USA Wrestling to attend the resident freestyle wrestling program at Colorado Springs. Henry was allowed to come almost as an afterthought as long as his older brother acted as his guardian.

Henry, a two-time Arizona state champion, was familiar with the program because he had spent several weeks there in 2004 training with Patricia Miranda, a former Stanford wrestler who would become the first American woman to win an Olympic wrestling medal later that year in Athens.

Miranda told Sports Illustrated in 2007 that she met Cejudo during a training session at a local high school and "he kept taking me down."

The Olympic Training Center marked the first time the Cejudo boys had ever slept in their own beds.

"The first time I saw him in the workout room I knew, the staff knew," said his coach, Terry Brands. "He's done an unbelievable job coming from the environment he came from and saying, 'Who gives a doggone? I'm gonna work and take what I've got coming to me.' "

Henry Cejudo's hard work paid dividends and he progressed faster than his brother, becoming the youngest member of the U.S. national team.

"I always did believe I'd be at the Olympics, I really did," Cejudo said. "My brother set the bar for me. He was really tough on me, to be honest. I got a couple of knuckle sandwiches."

Not anymore. Still, the oddsmakers were skeptical after he made the Olympic team, wondering whether such a young man could beat the best. He quieted many doubters in his first match when he beat Bulgarian Radisloav Veloslav, the 2006 world champion, and then he just kept on winning.

In the final, Matsunaga jumped to a two-point lead, but near the end of the first period, Cejudo wriggled out of a takedown attempt and turned the Japanese wrestler, exposing his back, taking the first period.

As the second period began, Cejudo sprung for Matsunaga's legs, took him down and turned him for three points. It was all he needed. After the match, Cejudo fell to his knees and then rose and held a flag aloft, his face contorted with the realization that he had overcome all the odds.

"It was all worth it," he said afterward. "I would never play the victim role. My mom always taught me to just suck it up, and whatever you want to do, you can do. That's what I did and that's why I'm here today."