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Anyone else think this might be a bit in poor taste?
Giuliani Fundraiser to Charge $9.11 Per Person Tuesday , September 25, 2007 AP ADVERTISEMENT WASHINGTON — A supporter of Rudy Giuliani's is throwing a party that aims to raise $9.11 per person for the Republican's presidential campaign. Abraham Sofaer is having a fundraiser at his Palo Alto, Calif., home on Wednesday, when Giuliani backers across the country are participating in the campaign's national house party night. But Sofaer said he had nothing to do with the "$9.11 for Rudy" theme. "There are some young people who came up with it," Sofaer said when reached by telephone Monday evening. He referred other questions to Giuliani's campaign. "I'm just providing support for him. He's an old friend of mine," Sofaer said of Giuliani. Sofaer was a State Department adviser under President Reagan and is a fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution Giuliani's campaign had no immediate comment. According to the invitation, "$9.11 for Rudy" is an "independent, non-denominational grass-roots campaign to raise $10,000 in small increments to show how many individual, everyday Americans support `America's Mayor.'" Giuliani was mayor of New York during the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. |
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I know 9/11 was a tragic event in America's history but how long is Giuliani going to play the 9/11 card?
I'm not saying we should all forget about what happened on that day, but it seems like Giuliani is trying to get sympathy votes. He was the Mayor of NYC during the terrorist attack but what does that have to do with running this country? |
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About as long as the president does. 9/11 changed the entire universe. It's all about 9/11. |
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I know that 9/11 was a turning point in our history. But the only thing Giuliani brings to the table is the fact that he was Mayor during that time....SO WHAT!! If there was someone else in office at that time they wouldv'e reacted the same way after the towers collasped.
The president has already said that the Iraq war has nothing to do with 9/11 by the way. It just seems like Giuliani wants people to feel sorry for him and give him their vote. You know when someone has sex with someone else because they feel sorry for that person- its called sympathy sex. Giuliani wants a sympathy vote. Thats how I see it. |
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So what? For a time following 9/11, New York Mayor Giuliani became "America's Mayor". At that time, each and every press conference that hizonnor gave was rebroadcast across the nation and other parts of the globe. Rudi is simply milking the past for all he can get. Isn't that the American way - grab everything you can on your way to the top of the heap?
Hell, Rudi isn't the only one who has tried to make a buck off 9/11. Do you remember all the appeals to patriotism that appeared in every other tv commercial hawking for everything from trucks to autos to computers to kitchen appliences? Evem tje Red Cross was taking full advantage of the event making potential doners believe that their money was going to victims of the WTC when most of the cash was deferred to administrative salaries and benefits. Most of the blood that was donated over that period was poured down the drain. People are real suckers when disasters hit. Corporate America, charities, and Da Mayor are only following the American way in taking full advantage of a bad situation. Makes me proud to be a New Yorker! |
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"I am not giving them hell. I am just describing it, and it seems like hell." Harry S Truman  |
Right now it probably is. Down the road it will no doubt be okay -- getting further away from the incident, and the principals are no longer around. It's still probably in bad taste to make light hearted comments or jokes about the JFK assassination, but okay when talking about the Lincoln assassination. To wit: Bob Newhart's bit of several years ago. As far as Giuliani goes: The most I remember of his public appearances (e.g. on TV) was his continuing call for people to "Visit New York City, and Spend Money."  ...gjd |
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The Red Cross used to be a very great organization. For the past few years, they've become a money making machine. What did they do for the people in New Orleans after Katrina? I haven't kept up with that mess.
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My dad told me, back in the '40s, that he would never give a penny to the Red Cross. He said they were a racket only trying to take in money. His favorite charity from his service days was the Salvation Army.
When I was in Galveston during Hurricane Carla, the Red Cross was on scene in force SELLING coffee to the rescue workers at 40 cents a paper cup (about 4 X the normal price in those days). SCREW the Red Cross. |
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Wasn't Rudy the guy that put the multi-million dollar emergency communications center for NYC in one of the World Trade Center buildings after it was bombed!!!!
Maybe he should forget running for POTUS and go to work for NASA. They are always looking for rocket scientists. |
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jerryM,
My Uncle always said the same thing. While he was a combat soldier during WW II he always walked by the Red Cross where they charged GIs for coffee and doughnuts and would go over to the Salvation Army tent where they were free. he would then leave a large donation. |
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My cousin said the same thing. He'd walk past the Red Cross and go to the Salvation Army. I lived in the town of Castle Rock WA When Mt St Helens blew. The Red Cross went past us like a dirty shirt and went to Longview to get publicity. The Salvation Army came in and helped those who were displaced.
I NEVER give to the Red Cross. Never |
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"I am not giving them hell. I am just describing it, and it seems like hell." Harry S Truman |
At least according to Snopes, these criticisms of the Red Cross are only partially true and can be explained . . .
Source: snopes.com ...gjd |
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It may be a little tactless, however he DID do a good job during that time. In comparison to Nagin and the N.O. Katrina fiasco he's a friggin saint!
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Ask FDNY folks and you may get a somewhat different picture than what was portrayed in the media. |
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I was born and raised in NYC. It's about 50/50. I do not get all my information from the media. |
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While I did mention what my Dad said, I'm not talking about that as being my reason for disliking the Red Cross. The fact is that I was personally in Galveston during and immediately after Hurricane Carla (which incidentally made landfall 9/11/1961), and I MYSELF PERSONALLY saw the Red Cross mobile canteen selling coffee and doughnuts to rescue workers - both civilian and military - at about 400% markup. I am sure that by then they should have gotten over a request by the Secretary of the Army in 1942. I'm glad the Red Cross has supporters, because unfortunately, our bureaucracy is set up so they are in charge of a great deal of relief work throughout the country. I'm afraid I will never get past my personal dislike of the outfit. On the other hand, I have had Salvation Army volunteers TRY to refuse my donations because I was in uniform. Jerry |
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I posted this on another thread but when Mt St Helens blew it's top, the Red Cross pasted Castle Rock WA and went straight to Longview where they'd get publicity. The Salvation Army stopped in Castle Rock and handed out food and medications and water
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In 1978 I worked flood relief in Baja. The Red Cross provided coffee to others (I didn't drink coffee at the time), and had them provide contact info saying it was required to ensure the coffee was being provided according to Red Cross rules.
About two weeks later the guys who got coffee also got bills from the Red Cross. Those who tried not to pay were raked through the coals by the command. IMHO, the Red Cross/Crescent and United Way are just run by rich folks getting richer by running "non-profits." |
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