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Kevin James gets ruined by Chris Mathews. And another right wing talking head makes himself look like a moron.
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I myself don't know what Chamberlain did. I did not look at the Mathews piece.
Two small problems with the article. One, it's on a site with the word "Progressive" in the title. Two, Prez Bush made a broad statement. He did not single out anyone or mention names. The article is factually incorrect. For the life of me I can't figure out why all the Libs got so defensive?  I said it before and I'll say it again....be careful with the left-wing Lib sites.
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Yes, a thinly veiled broad statement which pointed out electing a Democrat was an invitation to attacks at home. It would take courage to say what you really mean. |
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Appeaser? I'd like to "peas" on his leag ...
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Correct. Electing someone that doesn't take terrorism serious enough to stay and do all we can to help Iraq not be overthrown by extremists, (the same extremists that have been fighting in Iraq) is asking for future attacks. Our history of not taking terrorism serious enough in the past proves the point. Pointing fingers and declaring "they will pay" only brought on more attacks. |
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"I am not giving them hell. I am just describing it, and it seems like hell." Harry S Truman  |
Just to confirm. I watched the segment and Kevin James did come across as a "moron" -- just kept on yelling "Appeaser! Appeaser!" over and over again. And Mathews (who I can take just so much of) was having a hell of a good time. It was fun to watch! ...gjd |
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Not to worry boys and girls! No matter who wins the election we are guaranteed to have an interventionist President who will keep our troops in 130 countries around the world, fight unconstitutional, undeclared wars, and incite terrorists, and rally every fence-sitter in the Arab world to the side of Al-Qaeda and the like.
Anyone want to guess how many Iraqis had comitted terrorist acts against Americans prior to 2003? |
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My understanding of the situation is that Turkey basically borrowed the "Move To Florida" ad campaign from New York, and played it on the Al Qaeda network in Baghdad.
"Move To Turkey ... Ain't We Got Fun!" "Virgins ... Get Yer Virgins ... in Istanbul!" "New Jihads Starting Up Every Day ... Reserve Your Place!" "Come To Ankara ... And Live!" "We're NATO ... But We're Cool!" |
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If fighting the wrong war, in the wrong place, at the wrong time, against the wrong enemy is taking terrorism seriously then I guess you are right. However, that premise and the flat Earth premise are about equally accurate. |
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This bit of information was sent to me by a Wise Sage. |
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So when the Reagan Administration secretly held "talks" and "negotiated" with Iran resulting in the sale of weapons to Iran (less than 5 or 6 years after they freed American Hostages in Tehran) to help free more American hostages in Beruit....
What would you label that? Wasn't this the same Administration that vowed never to negotiate with, ahh, err... ...what are they called again? |
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If they aren't fighting us at the time, then they're Freedom Fighters. Not terrorists. Duh. |
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It was correctly pointed out on the tube today that Prez Bush could have been talking about... 1. Yes, Sen Obama 2. Former Prez Carter 3. SOH Pelosi 4. European countries who tried to negotiate and failed 5. NATO 6. All of the above Refocusing on Sen Obama, he and his posse are in panic mode right now. He made that statement and was just on the tube trying to spin his position(s). It seemed the media was taking him to task for his various positions and statements. If they smell blood, he's in trouble. As a neutral observation, I think he made a bad mistake calling out the Prez and Sen McCain to a foreign policy debate on national tv. His handlers should have pulled his leash. That is something you let your parrots and hacks do. That might have been a rookie mistake. I could be wrong on that, we'll have to watch what happens now. As I watched his press conference just now, he didn't mention Sen Clinton taking part in any foreign policy debate. I predict she'll make a statement later today or tomorrow to get some of the media attention back on her. We'll see if she does. |
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Sounds like OK Corral time.
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I wouldn't call your post evenly remotely neutral ... maybe like Swiss neutrality. |
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Gee... When is the time right to send a clear message to terrorists? I'm sure only when a conservative isn't leading the effort...You refuse to acknowedge that we aren't fighting against Iraq, we are helping them stand one their own, until you can undrstand that you simply won't get it. Your liberal bias clouds any possibility for you to comprehend this situation. Great objective analysis Professor. |
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A huge mistake. |
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My post are usually factually lean towards the conservative/traditional tilt or informational only. The neutral observation was just that....I think Sen Obama made a strategic mistake to publically challenge the Prez and Sen McCain on tv. I see nothing wrong with the challenge, he just should have let his staffers or press person work that. Here's my rational.....if one of his press people makes the challenge, he will have time to mold the follow-up responses once he guages the responses from the opposition. The other reason is he will not look like a flip-flopper if he needs to revise his position that a staffer previously laid out. When he makes the challenge himself, he now removed a layer of insulation from a charge of flopping should the political situation change. For example, if he has to shift from what he says today to something different tomorrow, he will not have any wiggle room from a flopping charge and would be hurt politically. IMO....he put himself in an awkward corner when he didn't need to. The mojo is/was in his favor. See what I mean? It would apply to anyone. |
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One other observation I heard on the tube this afternoon that I thought was a valid point. When he made the debate challenge, he should have included Sen Clinton in the debate challenge. By not doing that, he pushed her aside as if she doesn't exist. That might get her supporters so irate, they will not support him if he does become the Dem nominee.
Bob Beckle, whom I think is a smart Dem strategist on FNC, published an article today stating that Sen Clinton will be put on the ticket as the VP. He thinks the Clinton super delagates (SD's) who support Sen Obama will vote her to the VP spot at the convention, even though Sen Obama (and Mrs Obama) do not want her. It will happen because former Prez Clinton will cash in his chips with the SD'd who like him but had to jump on the Obama bandwagon to look like they are winners. That was a smart observation he made. |
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When you know who they are and where they are and the terrain is in your favor. We have taken the most advanced military machine in human history and sent it to a rock fight. Your analysis is brilliant. The terrorists are in Iraq because we are there and we are exposed. That way they can kill us at little expense to themselves compared to trying ops in America. Now I understand that anyone killed by our military are terrorists. Like in Vietnam if they were dead they were VC. However, who are terrorists, who are insurgents and who are separatists? I guess it doesn't matter when your house of cards only stands by mixing and matching them at convenient times. |
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