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Washington, D.C. – Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s family background as the son and grandson of admirals has given him a world view shaped by the military, “and he has a hard time thinking beyond that,” Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Ia., said today.

“I think he’s trapped in that,” Harkin added, in a conference call with Iowa reporters. “Everything is looked at from his life experiences, from always having been in the military, and I think that can be pretty dangerous.”

Harkin said that “it’s one thing to have been drafted and served. But another thing when you come from generations of military people and that’s just how you’re steeped, how you’ve learned, how you’ve grown up.”

-DesMoines Register


Senator Harkin's comments, though disgraceful, are amusing. Didn't the Democrats chide President Bush for his lack of military experience by being only an Air National Guard pilot?

Bill Clinton stated in the 1960's that the miltary was a disgrace.

In the 1950's, Adlai Stevenson and the democrats tried to paint Dwight Eisenhower as the future dictator because of his military experiance.

The only thing I find "dangerous" is the possibility of a left wing democrat sitting in the White House. Roll Eyes
 
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Proving by their own twisted, hypocritical words... the left is willing to say anything to serve their purpose.
 
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"But now McCain is running for a higher office. He's running for commander in chief, and our Constitution says that should be a civilian," Harkin said.


Really? I wonder what the Father of our Country George Washington would have to say about that? He was truly dangerous! Wink
 
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That's an interesting view ... I think most of us agree that McCain is a reasonably level headed guy. The dangerous ones ... the psychos who want to deliver tactical nukes on the middle east are the ones who haven't served ... like Dick Cheney and Karl Rove.
 
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That's an interesting view ... I think most of us agree that McCain is a reasonably level headed guy. The dangerous ones ... the psychos who want to deliver tactical nukes on the middle east are the ones who haven't served ... like Dick Cheney and Karl Rove.


"The dangerous ones ... the psychos who want to deliver tactical nukes on the middle east are the ones who haven't served ... "

What are you talking about? Loonie lefties jump to such ridiculous conclusions Roll Eyes
 
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Come on. This isn't about Cheney, Rove, or even President Bush. This is about a left wing democrat that represents YOU in congress. You lefties voted him in; do you agree or disagree with his statement that McCain is "dangerous"?
 
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I think most of us agree that McCain is a reasonably level headed guy.


I guess i would be one of those that would disagree. However, I think any of the top three would be dangerous to put in office. I have yet to figure out which one would be the best option. I have narrowed it down to Obama and McCain but I cant find many positives about either of em.
 
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"The dangerous ones ... the psychos who want to deliver tactical nukes on the middle east are the ones who haven't served ... "

What are you talking about? Loonie lefties jump to such ridiculous conclusions Roll Eyes

C'mon Scrounge, I actually think that SA was throwing out an olive branch.

SA, your forgot the left's favorite scapegoat, Donald Rumsfeld.
 
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Naw, Rummy served honorably in extreme combat conditions as a Navy flight instructor ...
 
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"Who would you rather have in charge of the defense of the United States of America, a group of people who never served a day overseas in their life, or a guy who served his country honorably and has three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star on the battlefields of Vietnam?"

~Howard Dean in 2004, Now the Chairman of the DNC


Hmmm....wonder Howie still feels this way in 2008?
 
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Spin and deflect!

McCain is insulted because of his military service and rather than broach that subject, some feel obligated to bring up others and their lack of service. Notice that they total ignore the fact that McCain and his military service was insulted. Yep, instead of discussing that FACT they deflect to Rove and Cheney. Who would have thought of that? Roll Eyes

Two letters come to mind:

B and S… Eek


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I have narrowed it down to Obama and McCain but I cant find many positives about either of em.


Sad but true, both candidates would increase the size of the federal government. I wish we could get a true conservative in office, someone who will keep the size of the government as small as possible without anarchy, someone who will keep taxes and spending as low as possible while still being able to protect OUR country. Instead, we are left with these 2 choices.
 
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It's funny that that AZZBAG Harkin would say something like this. Especially considering how he lied about his own military service. Just check out Stolen Valor and how he lied about serving in Vietnam and flying combat missions. Must have some kind of tumor on the brain like Edward K.
 
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Disagreed, did you read the first sentence of my post? I think my inflection was that McCain can be trusted in the C-in-C capacity. And I pointed out a few that should not be ... who knows what fresh hell we would be involved in, had Cheney ascended to the throne, with Karl stoking his fire.

And I think I can add, that America would not be safe with limpwrists like Ralph Nader or Kucinich to be properly emboldened to use miitary force at the appropriate time.

So where's the spin? Oh, and ya' don't have to stoop to Scrounge's tactic of using "they". You can attribute my posts to me.
 
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Soc, I didn’t see the inflection, so I apologize for that! But it seems that whenever we discuss a topic, the left interjects Rove or Cheney and the right interjects President Clinton. Rather than staying focused, they justify bad habits by the bad habits of others. That’s where the spin is.
 
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Disagreed, did you read the first sentence of my post? I think my inflection was that McCain can be trusted in the C-in-C capacity. And I pointed out a few that should not be ... who knows what fresh hell we would be involved in, had Cheney ascended to the throne, with Karl stoking his fire.

And I think I can add, that America would not be safe with limpwrists like Ralph Nader or Kucinich to be properly emboldened to use miitary force at the appropriate time.

So where's the spin? Oh, and ya' don't have to stoop to Scrounge's tactic of using "they". You can attribute my posts to me.


It was meant for you Socially...But it also applied for your fellow loonies. I still want to know.... SOCIALLYAUTISTIC...What evidence (besides blind liberal rhetoric) you have to back up this accusation:

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the psychos who want to deliver tactical nukes on the middle east are the ones who haven't served ... like Dick Cheney and Karl Rove.
 
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Washington, D.C. – Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s family background as the son and grandson of admirals has given him a world view shaped by the military, “and he has a hard time thinking beyond that,” Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Ia., said today.

“I think he’s trapped in that,” Harkin added, in a conference call with Iowa reporters. “Everything is looked at from his life experiences, from always having been in the military, and I think that can be pretty dangerous.”

Harkin said that “it’s one thing to have been drafted and served. But another thing when you come from generations of military people and that’s just how you’re steeped, how you’ve learned, how you’ve grown up.”

-DesMoines Register


Senator Harkin's comments, though disgraceful, are amusing. Didn't the Democrats chide President Bush for his lack of military experience by being only an Air National Guard pilot?

Bill Clinton stated in the 1960's that the miltary was a disgrace.

In the 1950's, Adlai Stevenson and the democrats tried to paint Dwight Eisenhower as the future dictator because of his military experiance.

I really wouldn't bring up Eisenhower as a good example of a veteran in the cac seat....he was a worthless president that put more time on the golf course then doing what he was elected to do.

The only thing I find "dangerous" is the possibility of a left wing democrat sitting in the White House. Roll Eyes


Yeah FDR ruined the country....couldn't lead in time of war at all......
 
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Spin and deflect!

McCain is insulted because of his military service and rather than broach that subject, some feel obligated to bring up others and their lack of service. Notice that they total ignore the fact that McCain and his military service was insulted. Yep, instead of discussing that FACT they deflect to Rove and Cheney. Who would have thought of that? Roll Eyes

Two letters come to mind:

B and S… Eek


Applause


Isn't that SOP for this situation? The Dems will still be running against Bush in like 50 years!
 
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Spin and deflect!

McCain is insulted because of his military service and rather than broach that subject, some feel obligated to bring up others and their lack of service. Notice that they total ignore the fact that McCain and his military service was insulted. Yep, instead of discussing that FACT they deflect to Rove and Cheney. Who would have thought of that? Roll Eyes

Two letters come to mind:

B and S… Eek


Applause


dis show me where he insulted his service.....if anything he pointed at his upbringing, not his service. If he had pointed out that he, his grandfather and father were lawyers and therefore had a lawyer mentality and therefore unfit to be president....would you have said he's insulted lawyers.....

i see your point but don't spin it into something it isnt
 
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Sen. Harkin is most likely a regular reader these USCG Forums.

After reading hundreds if not thousands of posts here about US military members engaging in "domestic spying" of "innocent" people, "illegally detaining" and violating the "Constitutional rights" of enemy combatants captured on the battlefield of Afghanistan, engaging in "torture" and conspiring with the CIA et al to murder 3000+ American citizens on 9/11/2001, he was convinced beyond any doubt that military personnel in general are nothing but a bunch of dangerous thugs who are not to be trusted.
 
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