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Census worker hanged with 'fed' on body

By DEVLIN BARRETT and JEFFREY McMURRAY (AP) – 3 hours ago

WASHINGTON — A U.S. Census worker found hanged from a tree near a Kentucky cemetery had the word "fed" scrawled on his chest, a law enforcement official said Wednesday, and the FBI is investigating whether he was a victim of anti-government sentiment.

The law enforcement official, who was not authorized to discuss the case and requested anonymity, did not say what type of instrument was used to write the word on the chest of Bill Sparkman, a 51-year-old part-time Census field worker and teacher. He was found Sept. 12 in a remote patch of the Daniel Boone National Forest in rural southeast Kentucky.

The Census has suspended door-to-door interviews in rural Clay County, where the body was found, pending the outcome of the investigation. An autopsy report is pending.

Investigators have said little about the case. FBI spokesman David Beyer said the bureau is assisting state police and declined to confirm or discuss any details about the crime scene.

"Our job is to determine if there was foul play involved — and that's part of the investigation — and if there was foul play involved, whether that is related to his employment as a Census worker," said Beyer.

Attacking a federal worker during or because of his federal job is a federal crime...


Rest of the story: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jbzG_BlkG2Hfc818EPRRn1bBlP6gD9ATASJ00

Yelling and screaming about the government is one thing, but..............

...gjd
 
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This from the Associated Press:

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Census worker hanged with 'fed' on body

By DEVLIN BARRETT and JEFFREY McMURRAY (AP) – 3 hours ago

WASHINGTON — A U.S. Census worker found hanged from a tree near a Kentucky cemetery had the word "fed" scrawled on his chest, a law enforcement official said Wednesday, and the FBI is investigating whether he was a victim of anti-government sentiment.

The law enforcement official, who was not authorized to discuss the case and requested anonymity, did not say what type of instrument was used to write the word on the chest of Bill Sparkman, a 51-year-old part-time Census field worker and teacher. He was found Sept. 12 in a remote patch of the Daniel Boone National Forest in rural southeast Kentucky.

The Census has suspended door-to-door interviews in rural Clay County, where the body was found, pending the outcome of the investigation. An autopsy report is pending.

Investigators have said little about the case. FBI spokesman David Beyer said the bureau is assisting state police and declined to confirm or discuss any details about the crime scene.

"Our job is to determine if there was foul play involved — and that's part of the investigation — and if there was foul play involved, whether that is related to his employment as a Census worker," said Beyer.

Attacking a federal worker during or because of his federal job is a federal crime...


Rest of the story: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jbzG_BlkG2Hfc818EPRRn1bBlP6gD9ATASJ00

Yelling and screaming about the government is one thing, but..............

...gjd


Anyone that thinks this is a new phenomenon brought on by the direction of the current administration has obviously never heard the songs “Rocky Top” or “Amos Moses”.

What happened to this census worker is unconscionable and I hope the individuals involved are caught and punished swiftly, but there are, and have always been, people in this country that do not want government interfering in their lives. It has nothing to do with current politics.
 
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Yelling and screaming about the government is one thing, but..............

...gjd

Are you kidding me George? Zero evidence and you automatically jump to a conclusion.

You're far more whacked out than Lokie! Do you have nightmares where old white men wearing brown shirts are chasing you, trying to steal your oxygen?
 
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If a heinous crime can be leveraged to spew irrational accusations of racial hatred or accuse the innocent right of bigotry, radical liberals will do so! I can see liberals joyously bathing their hands in this spattered blood knowing that they will exploit this murder to transform innocent Americans into evil Nazi, bigots. Like George, Pelosi and Reid must be exceptionally euphoric to manipulate this malicious deed.

Celebrating and exploiting innocent death is a terrible way to go through life. But the kind and tolerant liberals admire the murder of over one million innocent, unborn babies annually. Did anyone think that they would not exploit this tragic death, too? Of course they will! They shall never fail to exploit a tragedy! This incident is more innocent blood that they can rejoice about and utilize for their own agenda!

Yes, I honestly believe that liberalism is this evil. And this joy, expressed in this case as ‘I told you so’, is a classic example of liberalism’s evilness. So enjoy the blood on your keyboard! After all, it’s only blood. And when one has an agenda to execute, spilling a little blood is an excellent stimulus. Till now, I never thought that blood could be used by liberals as part of their ‘stimulus package’. Sadly, I was in error.
 
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Come on, we know some how this is George Bushes fault. Where is Lokie when we need him?
 
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If a heinous crime can be leveraged to spew irrational accusations of racial hatred or accuse the innocent right of bigotry, radical liberals will do so! I can see liberals joyously bathing their hands in this spattered blood knowing that they will exploit this murder to transform innocent Americans into evil Nazi, bigots.


You're the one bringing up "race," TJ.

I just wonder if the violence encouraging rants of Glenn Beck, Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and Rush Limbaugh simply feeds the fear and anger of their audience. Of course, when one of their followers acts on their fear by lashing out violently, they deny they had anything to do with it.

Violent rhetoric encourages violence, and they shouldn't act surprised when the killing of a "Fed" happens again. Or maybe more than one... after all, Oklahoma City was not that long ago.



I do wonder about your "exploitation" charge. Is it also "exploitation" when the relatives of the PANAM 103 victims protest Moammar Kadafi pitching his tent in the suburbs of New York?

...gjd
 
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How the heck did RACE get into this?

The "part time" census worker - was WHITE. His full time job was as a teacher.

All the allusions to violence being generated by Pelosi and her ilk is centered around victimnology of race, sexual orientation, et al.

Even the story quoted - raise the possiblity that motive was "being at the wrong place at the wrong time" like in an area where METH LABS don't like strangers... and THAT - there was no reason for the man to be in that particular area in any relation to his Census Job.

But partisans on both side (aided and abetted by the HEADLINE writter of the story) want to use this to PROVE WHAT?

Agggghhhhhhhhhh - it's hopeless I tell you... just hopeless.

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Originally posted by geejaydee:...I just wonder if the violence encouraging rants of Glenn Beck, Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and Rush Limbaugh simply feeds the fear and anger of their audience. Of course, when one of their followers acts on their fear by lashing out violently, they deny they had anything to do with it...gjd


That area of Kentucky is famous for Moonshine and pot farms. I really doubt that Glenn Beck had anything to do with this.

From a NY Times article in 2001:
"Spotters will go out by helicopter in the spring to map hundreds of suspected crops in mountain leas. Antimarijuana harvesters will descend by rappelling ropes to the most remote farms hidden in wild places like the Daniel Boone National Forest. More than 200,000 marijuana plants, each worth about $1,000 in retail produce, are seized each year in the sprawling beauty of the Boone forest."

If you Google that area you will find article after article over the years about moonshine, pot farms and meth labs.

A guy goes into backwoods of these hills, tells folks he is with the federal government, ends up dead, and somehow it's the fault of right wing talk radio?

Like I said, I hope they get the people that did this quickly, but I don’t see it as a symptom of right wing rhetoric gone bad.

Actually if I were a conspiracy nut, I would look at the fact that this happened over a week ago, and it didn’t hit the news until after Speaker Polosi told everyone how afraid she was. The time line makes you wonder.
 
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exploiting innocent death is a terrible way to go through life.


Concur - just ask Jeb Bush and Bill Frist about Terry Shiavo (sp?).

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George, Beck, Hannity, O’Reilly, Limbaugh and such do NOT condone violence. And the fact that you and Olberman and Maddow lie about that fact will not change it. And trying to hold Beck & Company accountable for the OK bombing is irresponsible at best… evil is more of an appropriate term!

Want to talk violence? I can provide a list of inappropriate violence perpetrated by liberal presidents! But you’d say that makes me an evil Nazi… so I won’t. You’d say that I was some sort of militia type. So, rather than make sense, I must remain silent of you’ll throw more accusations.

But keep peddling your ‘they preach violence’ diatribe. Blood is a wonderful thing in which to immerse one’s liberal soul. And makes sure you get behind your ear!

Honorary, they were exploiting LIFE! Not death. The liberals were exploiting the lady’s death!
 
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Maybe in Caintuck, they were trying to spell "Fred".
 
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"Our job is to determine if there was foul play involved"


WTF?? What is there to determine?! No sir, no foul play here!Big Grin
 
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If a heinous crime can be leveraged to spew irrational accusations of racial hatred or accuse the innocent right of bigotry, radical liberals will do so! I can see liberals joyously bathing their hands in this spattered blood knowing that they will exploit this murder to transform innocent Americans into evil Nazi, bigots.


You're the one bringing up "race," TJ.

I just wonder if the violence encouraging rants of Glenn Beck, Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and Rush Limbaugh simply feeds the fear and anger of their audience. Of course, when one of their followers acts on their fear by lashing out violently, they deny they had anything to do with it.

Violent rhetoric encourages violence, and they shouldn't act surprised when the killing of a "Fed" happens again. Or maybe more than one... after all, Oklahoma City was not that long ago.


I do wonder about your "exploitation" charge. Is it also "exploitation" when the relatives of the PANAM 103 victims protest Moammar Kadafi pitching his tent in the suburbs of New York?

...gjd


See what happens when one follows everything MSNBC and Rachel Maddow spew. George, your words are so close to being a direct quote from this particular editorial(disguised as news) that you could be in trouble for plagarism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEr65ZX6gLw

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Makes me wonder how much more of this will be allowed?? Roll Eyes
 
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As much as the people can stand, thus far that's plenty, the libbies count on it. Did you hear the comment "the predominently white middle aged crowd" - "white middle aged males"? Can you imagine the backlash if a conservative said "predominently black or hispanic crowd" of any age?

This is a great video, you can find the term brownshirts, racism claims etc...crying about nazi comparisons...all the while there's video over the audio showing liberal hipocrisy.

Like I've said before, it's as if Libbies don't know anything about video captures....and it just cracks me up how liberals love to cry about the very thing they do.
 
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I was talking about how much of this type of posting is going to be allowed on a Military Board. Maybe I need to spend some quality/therapy time on another military site for a while. Confused
 
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Wow this was made to order for the left.

And what do you know just when they need it health care legislation stalled, Afgan war not going so well, Poll numbers starting to slump.

This was a terrible thing to happen.
 
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Do they send you guys out memos on how to frame debates on stories like this? I've seen this discussion posted on several sites all blaming Glenn Beck.

Pretty sad that some use this guy's death for nothing but a silly partisan shot based on little to no evidence.

This is likely drug related and has nothing to do with politics.

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Police said the area has a history of drug trouble including methamphetamine trafficking and marijuana growing in its forested valleys between steep hills and ridges.

"That part of the county, it has its ups and downs. We'll get a lot of complaints of drug activity," said Manchester Police Chief Jeff Culver. He said officers last month rounded up 40 drug suspects, mostly dealers, and made several more arrests in subsequent days.

Dee Davis, president of the Center for Rural Strategies in Whitesburg in southeastern Kentucky, said Clay County is impoverished and has a "pretty wild history of a black market economy, a drug economy."

"I don't think there is any deep-seated hatred of government there," he said. "Government is not seen as the enemy, except for people who might fear getting caught for what they're doing."

Davis said it was a dangerous time of year for someone to go knocking on doors because marijuana producers are typically harvesting their crop. "It would be reckless."

http://www.thestate.com/breaking/story/955504.html?RSS=breaking
 
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How the heck did RACE get into this?

The "part time" census worker - was WHITE...


Don't know, Sonny. TJ brought "race" up.

There does seem to be an inordinate amount of talk about "big government," as well as "violence" lately. I'm not surprised that a news reporter would make some connections.

The investigation is ongoing, and eventually we'll probably find out what happened. But I really don't think people should condone the murder of an innocent federal employee or, for that matter, become defensive about exploring possible motives.

...gjd
 
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The investigation is ongoing, and eventually we'll probably find out what happened. But I really don't think people should condone the murder of an innocent federal employee or, for that matter, become defensive about exploring possible motives.

...gjd


Well, key word would be "motives." Funny considered you only provide one on nothing more than the fact that the guy had "Fed" written on his chest. Lets not forget the title of the thread, "I told you so" moment which pretty much indicates that you've come to the conclusion on what the motive was.

Back pedal much.....
 
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