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Why do you only feel Hamas is a perceived enemy of the USA? I would go out on a limb and state Iran was and is an enemy. I think they lost the perceived part when they started taking American Hostages. |
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(PSSSST) um hamas isn't in iran....they didn't take American hostages (that was iran)......they are labeled a terrorist organization by DoS....oh and btw, iranians are not arabs either...... |
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Btw..Iran is a enemy, no matter what they are, ask THEM. While you're busy splitting hairs, the extremists are united in one cause... |
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Sac,
Don't confuse him with facts. |
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I guess when you can't deal with the questions, just try and pretend the other persons is confused. That way you can avoid answering questions and hope people forget about it. question 1. Was why you only feel Hamas is a perceived enemy of the USA. Using those words would tend to make the rest of us think that you view them as a friend. I feel if you are killing our friends you are our enemy. Nowhere in my statement did I mention where Hamas was located, and certainly never claimed they were in Iran. You claim that "it's a play taken straight out of the GOP handbook" implying that the President Reagan's talks with Iran were also to a perceived enemy. To which I stated. I would go out on a limb and state Iran was and is an enemy. I think they lost the perceived part when they started taking American Hostages. Oh and btw, I already knew that the majority of Iranians are not Arabs. I also knew that you would avoid answering any questions asked of you. Like the ones in the post on page 2. |
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Just one more reason..Hillary keeps going
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The problem is they bring it over here. Its always great to assume its someone elses problem, and its easy to point fingers when it really becomes our problem. T |
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So what is the answer? Will continued conflict bring resolution or greater resistance? Why haven't we made better strides in domestic counter terrorism? Does squandering lives and strategic material make us any safer at home from an individual wearing an explosive vest? The President showed his true colors yesterday when he said electing a Democrat was an invitation to renewed attacks at home. Of course he did not say it in those words but he said it nonetheless. So, the big question is how do we stop "them" from bringing the conflict over here? |
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I'll take a crack at that. There's a lotta holes in this ... but I believe it would be a start:
* Stand up a permanent light quick-reaction force in the middle east on an 82nd Airborne model/desert environment. Training emphasis on hot weather, urban environments, checkpoint control ... all the tactics successfully used to date in Iraq and Afghanistan. * Establish "friendly skies" arrangments wherever possible ... Pakistan, Turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan ... which allow us to "no-notice" fly overs and staging points for further operations. * Establish a higher degree of incoming flight security. Basically, non-citizens entering the country by public transportation are first routed through "international portals" where a holdover, indentification through bio-metric methods, deep spectrometer scanning of personal belongings for trace elements of explosive or fissile handling and background checks can be implemented. Yes, it would be inconvenient - for non citizens. That would be the price for visiting here ... which incidentally would be paid by the visitor. * Thru increased foreign aid, bribery, whatever ... establish embedded investigators, police, counter-terrorism experts into foreign government police and intelligence agencies. By judicious use of money to grease the wheels, establish our representatives as deeply as possible within overseas agencies to develop "real-time" intelligence sources. All these things would require money ... bribery ... grease. Some would be wasted, I realize. But it would still have to be a lot cheaper than the current war effort ... and a lot more effective. |
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By sending a clear message. We won't negotiate with terrorists. We won't tolerate terrorist activity. We won't accept nations supporting terrorist activities. We deliver a message they understand, you terrorize, we squash you. Until we do that, as a united front, innocent people will die so terrorists can deliver their messages. The confict happening right now in Iraq is the terrorists not giving up, They realize the importance of gaining a foothold in Iraq. They know we have a weakness, called compassion, and they are exploiting it to the fuillest. Do you not realize they covet your argument against the fighting in Iraq? They know that every death is counted and if they keep killing it works in their favor. |
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Have fun in the great socialist north. PS I won't be voting for Obama either but ^that is ridiculous and HIGHLY unpatriotic. |
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Scrounge,
It has been 7+ years since 911 and no clear message is forthcoming yet.
They went to Iraq because we went to Iraq. Compassion is not a weakness and has nothing to do with this argument. My argument against the fighting in Iraq is their worst nightmare. They know when we stop swinging at shadows in Iraq and wasting our time stopping a civil war we created, we could actually spend time, money and yes if necessary lives on strategies that would actually make us and the world safer. You are the kind of guy that would start out East from Denver headed for LA and when you realized you were headed in the wrong direction would rationalize continuing because eventually you'd get to LA after circling the globe. |
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In the news today it says that President Bush is talking with the Saudis about increasing their oil production and the ambitions of Iran to produce nuclear power. My questions are...How many hijackers were there from Saudi Arabia on 9/11? How many times has Presdient Bush talked with the Saudis? Why is ok for President Bush to do this when a couple days ago he was blasting others of doing the same thing? |
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I am with you in hoping that Obama will end up in the dustbin of history of Presidential candidates and not as an actual President. Please do not leave for Canada. You are a serviceman and I need not tell you that freedom is not free. I could do the same thing and leave for Israel, but this is the nation that gave my parents better opportunities, like many others over our history as a nation. It is also the nation that educated me and the one that I was born in. It is still the best place I have lived in, even if I don't agree with every aspect of it and how things function, where I have lived elsewhere. Even if Obama becomes the Commander in Chief for the military and the nation, this is still supposed to be a nation with a government that is by the people and for the people, even if this idea looks great on paper and does not exist in every manner in reality. If things really go sour, does it not say somewhere in the our Constitution that the people have a right to revolt? The American people will only be fooled for so long before they wake up. If we were a nation of stupid people, we would not have come from being so small to such a big nation in a mere 232 years, thus we would have not succeeded as we have. If we were to see one or two 9/11s' per year, I don't know of anybody who would put up with it - Even my most liberal friends. Eventually, the will to live is going to take over and it's going to be about the us or them mentality, where egocentrism will take over. Like you stated, as well as myself in another post, we are not interested in warmongering. But, I also refuse to be a victim if I know what is to come, and I surely just don't want to go after what I believe in as an armchair warrior in front of a computer screen. My prediction. If Hillary gets the nomination, which is not looking good, she will win against McCain. If Obama gets it, where it looks good for him, McCain will win. This my hope, at least. Now, if Obama gets in, Hamas et al iare going to expect a lot from him and it will be seen as a victory for them if he wins, as well as other terrorist organizations. If he will not kiss up to these terrorist groups, this could be hazardous to his (Obama's) health, if you know what I mean. If he does, how long will we put up with it as the American people? Some of his only supporters may only end up to be in Dearborn, MI, for example. One never knows what will be. Let us see. Part of the problem is that a lot of people do not like McCain's age, and of course, his comment about being in Iraq for another 99 years. Let us be out of Iraq one day. About his age, though, this culture of ours (not accusing, but my observations after having lived overseas among other cultures) places great emphasis upon being young, thus his age by some is seen as a negative connotation. For security and immense understanding of many issues, as well as experience, he is the best thing in town. I hope the Hamas endorsement will affect Obama's campaign in every way possible. Just my thoughts and 2 cents.  Infidel Don |
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The questions must have been too tough for SacraficialMetal. Maybe he's been recalled to the DNC for some training.
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It is your kind that wants to aide in depriving us all of life, liberty and any possible pursuit of happiness, according to what we are supposed to have rights to in our Constitution. Dhimmi will not honor the Consitution, you should know. When you live and feel what it is to live under dhimmi, only then you will know. Your kind will put a word, such as "insurgent" or "freedom fighter", thus legitimising terror. When you live under dhimmi, though, you will see. Why do you serve this nation in the CG as an E9? WHY? Only for a paycheck? One should not be a whore to money. Dhimmi is coming to a city near you. You, too, can attend the public beheadings at any of various stadiums when you live under dhimmi. What will you do if and when you are next? Who will stick up for you if you cannot stick up for youself? |
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