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A Middle East policy adviser for Barack Obama has left the campaign after acknowledging having held talks with Hamas, FOX News confirms.

The Times newspaper in London first reported Friday that the campaign was severing ties with the adviser, Robert Malley.

Malley said he had been in contact with the Palestinian group, but only through his work for a “conflict resolution think tank,” and not on behalf of the Obama campaign, the newspaper reported.

Obama spokesman Bill Burton told FOX News Malley was “an ancillary adviser who never met with Obama, literally one of hundreds of informal advisers who from time to time offered advice on Middle East policy.”

Another Obama spokesman told The Times Malley “has no formal role in the campaign and he will not play any role in the future.”

Hamas, which is labeled a terrorist organization by the State Department, is a touchy issue for the Obama campaign.

Hamas adviser Ahmed Yousef said in a recent interview, “We like Mr. Obama, we hope that he will win the election,” and presumptive Republican nominee John McCain has poked fun at Obama for the apparent endorsement.

McCain has said he would be Hamas’ “worst nightmare”; he told “The Daily Show’s” Jon Stewart Wednesday that he could “guarantee” Hamas would not endorse him for president.

Obama accused McCain of “losing his bearings” and engaging in a smear campaign for the remarks.



I didnt think much of it when Hamas said they want Obama for President. Osama came out and endorsed Kerry 4 days before the last election, and I understand you cant control what these people say.

But I do have to question how this works. You have a staff member who decides to call up Hamas, and what? Thank them for their endorsement? Ask for a donation?

I find it hard to believe that this staff member just decided to call Hamas on his own. Like the employee just woke up one morning and said 'you know what, I am going to begin talks with a terrorist this morning'.

When you add it all up, I am about to throw Mr Obama into the the same camp I did Hillary. If he gets elected, I will begin looking for jobs in Toronto.

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I haven't decided who I'm going to vote for. Tweedle Dee or Tweedle dum. both have their agendas.
 
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Not to defend Obama, but the guy wasn't a staff member, and to characterize him as such is distorted and unfair.
 
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I disagree, he is an advisor and by definition STAFF. There is nothing distorted or unfair about it.5. those members of an organization serving only in an auxiliary or advisory capacity on a given project

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STAFF /stæf, stɑf/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[staf, stahf] adjective, verb
–noun 1. a group of persons, as employees, charged with carrying out the work of an establishment or executing some undertaking.
2. a group of assistants to a manager, superintendent, or executive.
3. a member of a staff.
4. Military. a. a body of officers without command authority, appointed to assist a commanding officer.
b. the parts of any army concerned with administrative matters, planning, etc., rather than with actual participation in combat.

5. those members of an organization serving only in an auxiliary or advisory capacity on a given project. Compare line1 (def. 38).


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We're using semantics to excuse this behavior? While casting stones at conservative talk radio...

Priceless!
 
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It's well known fact that any politician will accept $$$ from anyone willing to give.

As much as everyone hates or despises Michael Moore, in his movie "The Big One" he proved this by setting dummy organizations through a bank. He then proceeded to send checks on behalf of organizations like "Abortionists for Buchanan" which was cashed among other candidates.

Humor me and watch it, it is hilarious.

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If he gets elected, I will begin looking for jobs in Toronto.

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Violin As you once said to me, stop being so dramatic. Even though our current President has definately assumed more power then the constitution grants, he still has a limit. Pay attention to your state and local governments, thats where the bread and butter is, or should be.
 
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We're using semantics to excuse this behavior? While casting stones at conservative talk radio...

Priceless!


Perhaps you missed the part where the Obama campaign severed ties with the advisor. What more do you want, the guy to be hanged?
 
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If he gets elected, I will begin looking for jobs in Toronto.

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Violin As you once said to me, stop being so dramatic. Even though our current President has definately assumed more power then the constitution grants, he still has a limit. Pay attention to your state and local governments, thats where the bread and butter is, or should be.


I remember lots of Democrats saying the same thing, that they were going to leave if Bush was reelected, back in '04. It's all bluster.

As for your comments about looking toward our state governments, I agree completely. There is no "one size fits all" template with which to run the U.S. What works in Montana may not work in Florida.
 
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What works in Montana may not work in Florida.


Right! Snow removal operations, for one!

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We're using semantics to excuse this behavior? While casting stones at conservative talk radio...

Priceless!


Perhaps you missed the part where the Obama campaign severed ties with the advisor. What more do you want, the guy to be hanged?


How many times and how many people do they have to sever ties with before we should start to ask questions?
 
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.....so the two state campaign managers caught hanging around bathrooms for sex in two separate occations in two separate states should weigh heavily on the candidate........even if it was mccain's campaign managers?
 
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wasn't it presidential candidate ronald reagan who held talks with the iranians at the time they were holding U.S. hostages......in order to insure his victory.......

what's the difference........oh that's it, we found out before the election.......and you don't like Obama......
 
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wasn't it presidential candidate ronald reagan who held talks with the iranians at the time they were holding U.S. hostages......in order to insure his victory.......

what's the difference........oh that's it, we found out before the election.......and you don't like Obama......


I dont like him. He clearly has some racist tendencies. Nice how he compares himself to Malcom.

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The quotes below are from Obama's book, "Dreams of My Father";
Although Obama spent various portions of his youth living with his white maternal grandfather and Indonesian stepfather, he vowed that he would "never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."

This is from "Audacity of Hope";
"There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs," he wrote. "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

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"The emotion between the races could never be pure," "Even love was tarnished by the desire to find in the other some element that was missing in ourselves. Whether we sought out our demons or salvation, the other race would always remain just that: menacing, alien, and apart."

"There was something about him that made me wary," Obama wrote. "A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white"


Yep, now I am sure I dont like him. Racist.

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Not only do I have doubts about BOH, but his wife sure has a chip on her shoulder as well. So we have a potentially bigoted racist possible future President, his wife and his Reverant....wow that's 3 people. Maybe we'll get lucky and he will nominate Louis Farrakhan as Sec of State.

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wasn't it presidential candidate ronald reagan who held talks with the iranians at the time they were holding U.S. hostages......in order to insure his victory.......

what's the difference........oh that's it, we found out before the election.......and you don't like Obama......


I dont like him. He clearly has some racist tendencies. Nice how he compares himself to Malcom.

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The quotes below are from Obama's book, "Dreams of My Father";
Although Obama spent various portions of his youth living with his white maternal grandfather and Indonesian stepfather, he vowed that he would "never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."

This is from "Audacity of Hope";
"There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs," he wrote. "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

From "Dreams";
"The emotion between the races could never be pure," "Even love was tarnished by the desire to find in the other some element that was missing in ourselves. Whether we sought out our demons or salvation, the other race would always remain just that: menacing, alien, and apart."

"There was something about him that made me wary," Obama wrote. "A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white"


Yep, now I am sure I dont like him. Racist.

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please point out the racist portions of the quotes......

quote 1, can you not pick good attributes from someone you admire without being put into the same box as that person? can you admire thomas jefferson for what he did without taking into account that he was a slave owner that fathered children with his black mistress?

quote 2, if it was a white person speaking about their frat on campus would that be labeled racist?

quote 3, if i read it right....no matter what good a person does, there are those that point out what they fear about the person.....

here's a question have you actually read his book or are you just relying on same think ppl to tell you what to think
 
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....again going back to the thread topic....what did his people do that reagan's didn't during the '80 election?
 
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Whats really beginning to piss me off is how everything is now discussed by race. The media reports every night, how much of the "black" vote the man carried. I couldnt care less about that. Why cant we report how much of the "vote" the man had. Does it really matter what color the voters were?

Then there are those who would take the above quotes and justify them. Had a "white" man said the same things, we wouldnt even be having this conversation. But its justified for a potential future president to state that he was "wary" of someone because he was "WHITE". Stop with the race crap for christ sake and lets move on to something with some substance.

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....again going back to the thread topic that you started....what did his people do that reagan's didn't during the '80 election?
 
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.....so the two state campaign managers caught hanging around bathrooms for sex in two separate occations in two separate states should weigh heavily on the candidate........even if it was mccain's campaign managers?


The above post is the required DNC response that SacraficialMetal is mandated to post. Never address an issue if you can point out a different parties/persons issues.
 
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