It seems in your haste to cut and paste you cut a little more than just the quotations marks out of the paragraph, imagine that Mr Lennon!

Dick, I tried to tell you. I knew it was coming. It was only a matter of time. Welcome to the club! I will process your application and get you your Liar’s Club Card ASAP! Remember, it get you 15% off at Avis and stay three nights at a Comfort Inn and the fourth night is free (or I am lying again). I know that you will love the magazine! And yes, I read all Letters to the Editor! And wait until you have on of Mrs. McCain’s cookies!!

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Originally posted by asm3driscoll:
Now your calling me a lier? The quotations marks were in the original just as you see it. I added that whole passage in quotations after originally submitting the paragraph above it. It is as you see it and can be noted by the time it was submitted. You are mistaken again, or do you just enjoy lying? Maybe you would enjoy having dinner with Gaylord? Imagine that!

Dick, here is the paragraph in question, as it originally appeared in your posting:

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Jefferson did not begin to differ with Hamilton until they clashed as to the way to persuade England to release the Northwest Territory forts, still held in violation of the 1783 Treaty of Paris. Jefferson favored the application of economic pressure by forbidding imports from England, but Hamilton objected, fearing that the resulting loss of revenue would endanger his plans for the nation's financial structure. Jefferson next opposed Hamilton

Here is the paragraph after you went back and added quotation marks, and removed the sentence at the end that got cut off:

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"Jefferson did not begin to differ with Hamilton until they clashed as to the way to persuade England to release the Northwest Territory forts, still held in violation of the 1783 Treaty of Paris. Jefferson favored the application of economic pressure by forbidding imports from England, but Hamilton objected, fearing that the resulting loss of revenue would endanger his plans for the nation's financial structure."

If you are stating that the second paragraph, as it is written, is what you originally pasted into your posting, and that you did not go back and change it after I caught you, then, yes, I, most assuredly, am calling you a liar.

And, the evidence is quite clearly damning. I posted that paragraph as it was written when I saw it. Why would I add the words "Jefferson next opposed Hamilton" to the end of your posting? It was there in the original, and you know it, so why deny this?

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Originally posted by disagreed:
Dick, I tried to tell you. I knew it was coming. It was only a matter of time. Welcome to the club! I will process your application and get you your Liar’s Club Card ASAP! Remember, it get you 15% off at Avis and stay three nights at a Comfort Inn and the fourth night is free (or I am lying again). I know that you will love the magazine! And yes, I read all Letters to the Editor! And wait until you have on of Mrs. McCain’s cookies!!

Where do I sign up?

Hey Meathead,
Look at the times of the posting and you will see that I didn't change or add anything after you accussed me of plagarism. My post stood intack at 8;32 and then you posted your bullshit at 8;34.
Have a nice dinner with Gaylord,
"more understanding, less hate"
I believe someone noted your words as being the biggest bold face lies they have seen in all there years on Fred's Place.
Peace,
Dick

Swim, I wrote COOKIES… not muffin!

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Originally posted by asm3driscoll:
Hey Meathead,
Look at the times of the posting and you will see that I didn't change or add anything after you accussed me of plagarism. My post stood intack at 8;32 and then you posted your bullshit at 8;34.
Have a nice dinner with Gaylord,
"more understanding, less hate"
I believe someone noted your words as being the biggest bold face lies they have seen in all there years on Fred's Place.
Peace,
Dick

When I first read your posting, it already noted the 8:32AM change that you made, presumably when you went back and added the second paragraph. I'm sure someone can explain why the subsequent change didn't result in an updated change message. I responded to your posting the way I respond to all postings. I just hit the Reply with Quote icon. It recreated your posting as it appeared, and all I added was my comments. If you're going to keep lying about the quotation marks you went back and added, then how do you account for the four extra words that appear at the end of what I originally responded to, that no longer appear in the original posting? You had to have gone back and removed those.

I've got you red-handed here, Dick.

Listen ****head,
I didn't change the ****ing post after your ****ing accusation. The posts and times update everytime you post or update your post. I cant explain it any clearer than that **** face. If I had changes the post after your post than the time would have been posted later than your posting time. Is that clear enough? I did not change or add quotations after your post.

Go **** yourself,
Dick

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Originally posted by asm3driscoll:
Listen ****head,
I didn't change the ****ing post after your ****ing accusation. The posts and times update everytime you post or update your post. I cant explain it any clearer than that **** face.

Go **** yourself,
Dick

You still haven't explained how the four extra words that are in the version I responded to are no longer in the original.

You are one thick headed ****! Why not just apologise for your error and move on?

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Originally posted by asm3driscoll:
You are one thick headed ****! Why not just apologise for your error and move on?

Still no explanation, just foul language.

Perhaps you noticed yourself that it was obvious that you plagiarized the paragraph, and was in the process of adding the quotation marks, and getting the cut-off sentence out of it, and was unable to do so before I responded to the original, which would explain the two minute difference in between your change and my response. I just typed my response faster than you corrected your posting, I guess.

At any rate, you KNOW what you had there originally. I copied it in its original form. I can see how it would be embarassing being caught doing something like that, and why you are so adamantly denying it, but you're only making yourself look more foolish, especially when I have the original version copied into my response.

So, why don't you just apologize for YOUR error, and for denying it, and then we can all move on?

Now, how do you account for the four words in the version I responded to that no longer appear in the original?

Perhaps in your glee and haste to fill the thread with your own hateful message, you missed me correcting an obvious error on my part. Not and error in charactor but an error in grammer that I make alot of.
You on the other hand stay true to form and remain a know it all, as well as a **** head!

Peace,
Dick

Dick, dude, sit back and listen to me! I told you to watch out and now you see why! As I wrote prior, I am normally a good judge of character. When I make a judgment mistake as I did, I am very surprised. But after discovering my error, I am dead solid on in judgment. So, believe me when I say, stay away! It works excellently!!

First off, stop. It just isn’t worth the aggravation. I would get into the reasoning behind this fact, but decorum prevents me from traveling down that road. But please, for your BP, a grain of salt is required. Understand?

Second, more will be demanded OF you than provided in replies TO you. And, when you reply with anger, your response does little good but it did support a rising chubby. You’re feeding the beast so to speak. It happened to me in the past. I’ve been a victim of my own openness and attempts to get my message across to someone that I thought cared but truly did not care to listen. I wasted time too, but I learned from my error! And once a real man realizes that the spewed mud is getting on him, he will rise up, examine the company he keeps and pull himself from the sewer. So, step up of the sewer and back into the light.

Lastly, and most importantly, you need a beer! I’m buying! Oh, and your Liar’s Club members was approved by committee. Either that or I am lying again! So come in off that ledge!

My apology's, now I repent!
Peace,
Dick

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Originally posted by asm3driscoll:
Perhaps in your glee and haste to fill the thread with your own hateful message, you missed me correcting an obvious error on my part. Not and error in charactor but an error in grammer that I make alot of.
You on the other hand stay true to form and remain a know it all, as well as a **** head!

Peace,
Dick

Ah, so now you admit that there were no quotation marks in the original, and that you copied and pasted it without attributing the source (there was more than just an error in grammar there; in fact, there was no error in grammar, at all, in the second paragraph)? Why didn't you just do that to begin with? What is the point in lying, then denying that you lied, and then getting mad at me and curse me for calling you a liar?

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My apology's, now I repent!
Peace,
Dick

Apology and explanation accepted. See how easy that is? Why must it be yours and TJ's (and others') first instinct to be dishonest?

Listen up **** Head,
I'm not appologizing to you, and I indeed did not lie when you accussed me of going back and putting quotations marks as a result of your post for to do so I would have had to be a mind reader as my corrections came before you so helpfully tried to point out my errors.. So continue to spew your hateful and decietful message and I will think of you as a **** head and then repent.
My apologys to all the others here.
"more understanding, less hate" You remain as it has been pointed out the biggest bold face lier of them all!

Peace,
Dick

Dick… Dick… Dick… (l-o-n-g sigh)

You are missing it, amigo. You are throwing logs on the fire of the lame. You are trying to speak logically with the emotional. You are speaking common sense to… oh, never mind…

Back away, Dick. Erroneous accusations can only be harmful if you give the person spewing those hate-filled words the power to insult you. Don’t empower the helpless. You didn’t lie. You know it. The twisting of words is to be expected. The liberal tactics are normal. Let it go. Time is too important to throw away on crapola.

I got one word for you… BEER… I am on my way to the fridge for one now. I think I’ll drink a Hyland Amber in your honor. For you, sir, now have a fan club, too! My only question is – and maybe Pat can answer this for me – is when does a fan club member become a stalker? Is it when they feel obligated to use your name on every thread that they post on?

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Originally posted by disagreed:
Swim, I wrote COOKIES… not muffin!

Dam it Dis, no muffins? Well, if you'll still have me I'd still like to be a member. After all, I've been called a liar by the same person in a round about way!

Dick, no worries mate. I too will have a beer for you and wish I was with you to share it mate. I guess some people just never learn, these are the exact tactics this gentleman displayed in his last go around on these boards.

To return the thread to civility, hit the "hide post" seventeen times...

In response to TJ's question, "How to pay for the programs?

In the chapter titled “Opportunity” he acknowledges that he does not have all the answers but cited examples such as Warren Buffet, Larry Page and Sergy Brin as people who got it right.

Use the best minds to develop long term solutions. Make the choices that help America to be more competitive in the global market. Let government action continue in the areas that have been successful through history, build the infrastructure, train the workforce and lay the foundation for economic growth.

Use our system that for generations has encouraged constant innovation, individual initiative and the efficient allocation of resources. Realize that our free market system is not the result of natural law or divine providence. Rather it emerged through a painful process of trial and error, a series of difficult choices between efficiency and fairness, stability and change. Create renewable, cleaner energy sources for the twenty first century and target excess profits from oil companies towards financing alternate energy research and the necessary infrastructure.

Ask what mix of policies will lead to a dynamic, free market and widespread economic security, entrepreneurial innovation and upward mobility. Do collectively, through government, only those things that we cannot do as well or at all individually and privately. Be guided by what works.

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Originally posted by asm3driscoll:
Listen up **** Head,
I'm not appologizing to you, and I indeed did not lie when you accussed me of going back and putting quotations marks as a result of your post for to do so I would have had to be a mind reader as my corrections came before you so helpfully tried to point out my errors.. So continue to spew your hateful and decietful message and I will think of you as a **** head and then repent.
My apologys to all the others here.
"more understanding, less hate" You remain as it has been pointed out the biggest bold face lier of them all!

Peace,
Dick

Okay, so you're sticking with the crap. Okay, I'll ask again. How do you account for the four extra words, i.e. the cut off sentence, that appears at the end of second paragraph of what I copied directly from your original post, that no longer appear there? If you didn't go back and remove them, where did they go?

Oh, and when someone was pointing out that I'm "the biggest bold face lier (sic) of them all!", did they cite any actual lies that I told, or was this just another Pee-Wee Herman "I know you are, but what am I" thing?