I don’t even have the courage to open the link! McCain’s speech pattern reminds me of President Bush’s… and he drives me crazy!

My problem is that I have no one to vote for in the next election! I cannot vote for Obama because he is a racially bigoted liberal peddling warm-fuzzy propaganda. And then we have McCain and whatever he stands for (stuff like violating the Constitution and minor offenses like that). It seems to me that election are getting worse, not better!

Seriously though,

McCain did not look good that day. He looked his age and seemed to have a hard time getting out every word. Even Fox News commented, as shown in the above video, how bad he looked. That speech could come back to haunt him in the next few months.

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Seriously though,

McCain did not look good that day. He looked his age and seemed to have a hard time getting out every word. Even Fox News commented, as shown in the above video, how bad he looked. That speech could come back to haunt him in the next few months.

There is a 99% chance I am voting for him, and I thought the same thing after watching that speech.

T

I'll vote for ANYONE except Obama. He's made some statements I don't appreciate, he's still tied to that minister.

Not exactly Stormer, he cashed in his chips and left the church after that visiting Catholic priest made similar remarks. Granted he missed the timing but none the less he did leave.

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I don’t even have the courage to open the link! McCain’s speech pattern reminds me of President Bush’s… and he drives me crazy!

My problem is that I have no one to vote for in the next election! I cannot vote for Obama because he is a racially bigoted liberal peddling warm-fuzzy propaganda. And then we have McCain and whatever he stands for (stuff like violating the Constitution and minor offenses like that). It seems to me that election are getting worse, not better!

You can always vote for Nader.

Well, seeing as how this country has never fully washed the stain of Nixon away, having key members of the draconian staff still running the show and in power, I'm voting for Obama.

Obama himself is full of energy, ideas and inspiration. I personally would like to see a French Revolution in this country, it needs it. Oil companies plundering the planets resources like it's theirs, forsaking us all so they can make a huge profit. They buy Presidents, change the legislation and influence foreign policy in the name of the American people.

McBush = pathetic. I don't really have any cause to dislike McCain, but I don't really care for four more years of the same B.S. course that we've been on. I want the whole ant farm shook up, something totally different, new, exciting and inspiring.

I'm voting for Obama.

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I'm voting for Obama.

Lokie my friend, I would have bet $10,000 that you would do so. I am not surprised.

While the speech by McCain was not particularily endearing, I would ask; what is more important? The sales pitch or the actual product? Obama is a great speaker and very charasmatic. When he first announced he was running, I was excited because I bought into his "change" campaign. But the more I listened and the more I learned about him, the more I was turned off by him. His sales pitch may be rock solid, but his product is road apples. I am not sold on McCain, but he is looking like the lesser of two evils to me.

Yep I'd vote for McCain before I'd vote for Oboma. When did the delegets start. I don't recall them and I'm an old lady. When did my vote not count?

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would ask; what is more important? The sales pitch or the actual product?

Wolf, there are three components that are important during this election season. First, during this time, the delivery of the message is most important. As long as the message is flowery and read smoothly off the teleprompter, the plans and details and method of accomplishing things may remain hidden. Then, if the message sender is a Democrat and black, there will be no challenges to that message. In fact, the moderators of television shows will say things like, “His speech sends chills up my spine” and other non-biased such tripe.

So, the sales pitch is much more important than content… as long as you are spreading warm-fuzzy BS!

TJ, you really need to do what I did and lay off the TV. I never watch it. The "News" isn't, the shows are mostly all terrible, meant to be just interesting enough to keep you on your rear end and snacking. I have given up on the Tele.

This is all funny rhetoric from the masses. Go back and look at Bush's speeches when he was running for President, any promises kept? Any of the crap that he talked about in those speeches pan out? Look at the things he said about McCain when he was running against him for the GOP nomination. I swear, sometimes it seems that you people live in the tiny bubble of time, incapable of looking back.

And you use such stupid analogies and set the bar so high for some and as low as it can go for others. The fact is most of you had no problem pulling the handle for a total self proclaimed "war president" and "decider", someone that possess the articulation and mental processing power of the average 5th grader. What has your fruit born to us over the last 8 years? The list is too long for me to type in one afternoon. So, stick a sock in it when it comes to idiosyncratic criteria this time around, if you voted for Bush then you have already shown your lack of commitment to quality.

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Politicans are like diapers and should be changed often and for the same reason..lokie i want to vote for someone other than McCain..honest..but i ain,t blind..i see no reason at all to vote for obama..If he really wanted to be president..he should have started preparing earlier..like finding a better church..heck even no church is better than trinity..marry someone who is,nt a lunitic..possibily pick some better friends.

yep if it hangs with ducks..quacks like a duck..and smells like a duck..i would bet it is a duck.

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but i ain,t blind..i see no reason at all to vote for obama

I'm sure you SEE no reason, I mean, you're voting with your eyes and it's glaringly apparent.

JFK suffered the same BS argument against his Presidency. Too Irish, Too Catholic, Too Young, Too little experience. This notion that one should be "groomed" to lead from some early age is crazy. Lets take a look at the past. Bush, Bush, Nixon, Clinton...all terrible. Clinton managed to get into the White House without having any real religious credentials at all. I am Catholic, but the Pope doesn't speak for ME. Again, you people are looking for reasons NOT to vote for him. I'm not changing any minds, I don't care what you think.

Don't vote for him, he's still going to win.

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Lokie

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I swear, sometimes it seems that you people live in the tiny bubble of time, incapable of looking back.

Read your own words...then try to walk in them for a while.

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but i ain,t blind..i see no reason at all to vote for obama

I'm sure you SEE no reason, I mean, you're voting with your eyes and it's glaringly apparent.

JFK suffered the same BS argument against his Presidency. Too Irish, Too Catholic, Too Young, Too little experience. This notion that one should be "groomed" to lead from some early age is crazy. Lets take a look at the past. Bush, Bush, Nixon, Clinton...all terrible. Clinton managed to get into the White House without having any real religious credentials at all. I am Catholic, but the Pope doesn't speak for ME. Again, you people are looking for reasons NOT to vote for him. I'm not changing any minds, I don't care what you think.

Don't vote for him, he's still going to win.

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Lokie,

How about supporting the USA AND AIPAC, thus Israel, too? We (the USA and Israel) are both "Satan" according to our enemies. Just sayin'. It will be one struggle, and you will not be immuned to it as a Catholic while living under dhimmi. Obummer will lead all of us to demise. Why all this about Bush all the time when all I have seen from so many of the anti-Bush people is that they live to diss Bush more than they live to bring about change? Why Bush? Is the Congress not controlled by Dems since 2006? How is this all about Bush?

History will repeat itself because of the denial and stupidity of the people. Is this the change that you really want? What will be if it's too late? What will be when others are affected, but not you? And then, you will be affected, what will you do?

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Again, you people are looking for reasons NOT to vote for him.

I am going to agree with you and say you bring up a very valid point that applies to both Sen's McCain and Obama. Instead of looking at reasons why not, let's look at reasons why either one should be the Prez and then let those stand on their own merits.

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Don't vote for him, he's still going to win.

Maybe, maybe not. Too early to claim that as fact.

IMO.....in regards to getting legislation passed, it doesn't matter who wins the Prez and what campaign promises they make, if Congress doesn't go along or a plethora of filibusters are made, the campaign promises mean nothing. I'm not a Sen McCain fan but to his credit, he can claim to have reached across the isle to get legislation passed....even if I felt is was bad legislation.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of any legislation that Sen Obama has reached across the isle on. I'm not saying he hasn't, I just can't think of anything nor any mention of it in his speeches. IMO that will be important for any legislation to get bi-partisan support in Congress and make up to the Prez's desk.

John, I'm not a McCain supporter, I also don't live in Arizona either. McCain is a Senator and has been for a long time in a pretty progressive district, so reaching across the isle was a matter of political survival. Obama, not so much. One time Senator and I don't know his record on voting on behalf of the people of Illinois as their Senator to know if he has worked with others or not.

So, you sort of win on that point. I don't seem to remember bi-partisanship being important for Bush, do you? He claimed he was a "uniter" then quickly changed his nick-name to the "decider". No one here batted an eye lash then.

For those that are going to shovel manure at me about religious dogma and Israel, especially AIPAC (which I HATE), don't bother. Israel has been blackmailing the USA for years, they are a rouge nation and no better than anyone else in the world. The Kurds don't have their own "state". I don't see a giant lobby in the USA shoveling billions at them to develop nuclear weapons and start conflicts whenever it suits them, do you? (that was rhetorical)

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