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foxnews..i report you decide j/k sc

Is this a good thing? i am thinking yes..If we don't honor the constitution were heading in the wrong direction imho..what is your thoughts?

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constitution

applies only to american citizens

Raymond

Raymond is wise. Raymond understands the ways of the world.

Raymond for President!

One thing we shouldn't do is assume these people are terrorists. Americans have been persuaded by the media that this is ok because they are terrorists. They are all supspects. If you don't have reason or evidence to hold them in an American prison, then they shouldn't be there. It is such a goofy concept. Go around the world and arrest suspects, then leave them in prison without being proven guilty in court.

It doesn't suprise me though, look what our government did to Japanese Americans during WWII. You think we would have learned from our mistakes.

True, these people MUST be assumed innocent until proven guilty. I mean, it’s not like they are animals or anything! And, if these people get set free on a judicial technicality, so be it! And this right MUST be extended to all of these suspected terrorists, right? Well, then this right MUST be extended to Osama, too! He should be assumed to be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. And if he gets set free on a technicality… so be it! And since Osama is presumed innocent, we MUST stop our vigilantism! Why are we sending our military after Osama to kill him if he is to be assumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law? And do the liberals demand that we ‘get’ Osama if he is presumed innocent?

Osama hasn't been detained in a U.S. prison for 5 years without being charged with a crime. If you have evidence against these people, great, charge them, find them guilty. But holding someone because they are a suspect is absurd. More tax dollars being wasted.

I MUST have a beer ...

Soc, I just visited a local brewery (Hyland) and bought a few freshly brewed Amber Ales, Farmhand Ales and a couple others. Come on over and I'll open a few!

Well, if you get me any more worked up this morning, I'm gonna open a Mich Ultra ... and it's only 8 a.m. (but 79 degrees, headed for triple digits today).

Soc, what did I write that is untrue? If people want to provide all the terrorists the same rights as all Americans, that must also mean that Osama will receive the same rights, correct? Or is this going to be yet another in the long line of selective tolerances? Face it, if we give all terrorists the rights of Americans we must also include Osama in this. And if he has the same rights as us, they – and he -are innocent until proven guilty. And, if he is innocent until proven guilty, then we are acting as vigilantes by sending our military members to murder Osama. And if Osama’s civil rights have been violated, he walks! And if he wasn’t treated well by officials, he walks. And, since we have tried to kill him and we are giving money for someone to bring us his head, I would assume that his civil rights have been violated. So, Osama walks!

What is illogical in this stream?

dis,

It's been nearly 7 years since 9/11 and we haven't caught Osama yet. These "suspects" have been in Gitmo for 5 years and have never been charged with a crime. How can you jail someone who hasn't been proven guilty, or even charged with a crime?

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Originally posted by mboccia:
One thing we shouldn't do is assume these people are terrorists. Americans have been persuaded by the media that this is ok because they are terrorists. They are all supspects. If you don't have reason or evidence to hold them in an American prison, then they shouldn't be there. It is such a goofy concept. Go around the world and arrest suspects, then leave them in prison without being proven guilty in court.

It doesn't suprise me though, look what our government did to Japanese Americans during WWII. You think we would have learned from our mistakes.

Most of these people were captured while in battle against our troops. They were not arrested. America needs to seperate the two views. If they can prove they are Americans then they should be tried in our courts if not then they are being delt with appropriately. A wise man once said "applies only to american citizens" when asked about the Constition.

Terminal Island was full of Japaese, they had stores, gas stations, maybe 90 fishing boats. The government sent them to 'relocation' camps when WW2 started. My son has a friend who was born in the camps. My uncle went around to the Japanese and said "I'll give you 10 dollars and you give me the title to your boatand the boats will be here when you come back. Very few came back. They never did find a "spy".
Now Terminal Island is The Coast Guard base there is a federal prison across the street.

Mario, EMC is correct and stole my thunder! Being caught in the battlefield while fighting American soldiers is a little bit different than just being taken while walking down the street. Actually, it’s a BIG difference!

How can we kill someone that hasn’t been convicted of a crime? Why won’t anyone answer the question concerning Obama? Obama has been convicted of nothing yet you want his head? Well then, let’s treat the Gitmo detainees the same? Face it, Y’all want to treat Obama differently than these criminals. Why?

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Originally posted by EMC_:
Most of these people were captured while in battle against our troops. They were not arrested. America needs to seperate the two views. If they can prove they are Americans then they should be tried in our courts if not then they are being delt with appropriately. A wise man once said "applies only to american citizens" when asked about the Constition.

most....how many is most half+1, 2/3, 9/16....you fail to observe that some...maybe most were handed over by tribes and accused to have ties with terrorism. Why? to get the fat reward we were offerring or settling a long fued with the accussed' tribe....so you're willing to make them suffer....citzens or not, they deserve due process before being "detained" for 5 or more years. If found on the battle field...use that in the case and proceed, if not found on the battlefield...give them their day in court

Why, because Obama is not a criminal, he is a Presidential candidate.

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Originally posted by 17929489:
Why, because Obama is not a criminal, he is a Presidential candidate.

c'mon, it was a honest mistake....... they both have dark skin an unamerican names......sorry dis had to throw you under the bus for that mistake......

The GITMO inmates were enemy combatants captured by U.S. military forces on a foreign battlefield. The Supreme Court was wrong in its decision. The inmates, just as German soldiers captured in Belgium and France in World War II, should not be allowed access to our federal courts. The U.S. Constitution does not apply to them. But, the Supreme Court thought different. Now Marines and Soldiers are going to have to worry about criminal rules of evidence in the heat of battle, which is total BS. My recommendation is for our troops in battle to take a different approach; take no prisoners.

Remember Senator Kennedy

This is going well.

Constitution applies only to American Citizens? When was that Amendment passed?