WHile I'm not at all sentimental and I usually never show emotion in front of people, I find this picture heart breaking. I'm not thumping my chest with uber-patriotic pride, but hanging my head.
I know you guys see a moving, emotive portrait there ... full of pride, patriotism and love.
But ... I'm a Coastie, and I can't help it. And I'm afraid, guys, that all I can see is a young Marine, maybe holding the father of his father. And he's thinking ...
Originally posted by SociallyAutistic: I know you guys see a moving, emotive portrait there ... full of pride, patriotism and love.
But ... I'm a Coastie, and I can't help it. And I'm afraid, guys, that all I can see is a young Marine, maybe holding the father of his father. And he's thinking ...
"Geez, Grandpa, you sure smell funny ...".
With a comment like that it is hard to believe that you were once a Master Chief as listed in your profile.
Fourstring, Expected of you....Through the proud display of honor and integrity you found a way to be ashamed...That's simply pitiful.
Whatever, scrouge. It's a tragedy that such honorable (yes, it is indeed honorable) displays must be necessary. I'm so sick of your psuedo-patriotic garbage. You and a plethora of others here.
Yeah, I do feel bad ... shouldn't a said it. Like I said, I'm socially autistic. Don't tell me you guys never engaged in "floater humor". Or never made fun of a guy with a plate in his head. But I'm not a completely unfeeling, oafish ingrate. If I was, I'd say that Marine was thinking "Grandpa, let me pluck all that earhair out with this tong attachment ...".
If you want to feel outrage, why don't you start with Dick Cheney, who said, "So? They're all volunteers ...".
When people get wrapped up in uber-patriotic fervor, we must all march in lockstep. For example, I didn't even make an over the line comment. I just expressed sadness that such scene are necessary in our world and I was attacked by the resident evangelical right winger himself.
Let's ignore the fact that a bunch of fat, lying hypocrites in Washington, most of whome were never even in military, sent Marines like the one in the picture to be maimed for life.
Just like all the old fat guys have done for centuries and centuries......
These people are so self-absorbed, they can't fathom that my tears have been already cried ... I've been on this board railing at the atrocity of the Iraq operations for years. Humanity's loss is huge ... we were a catalyst for the death of 4000 Americans and 150,000 Iraqis. For what? Iraqi freedom? They're building walls across the cities ... the nation is now segregated and stratified by ethnicity.
The conservatives said "he's gassing the Kurds!". It's like we said, "5000 dead Kurds ... that ain't genocide ... WE'LL show ya some genocide!" But Scrounge will say, "oh ... he's cryin' for our enemies". I don't cry for our enemies. I cry for dead humans ... orphaned children ... a state of chronic misery we perpetuated on a nation.
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The provision of chemical precursors from United States companies to Iraq was enabled by a Ronald Reagan administration policy that removed Iraq from the State Department's list State Sponsors of Terrorism. Leaked portions of Iraq's "Full, Final and Complete" disclosure of the sources for its weapons programs shows that thiodiglycol, a substance needed to manufacture mustard gas, was among the chemical precursors provided to Iraq from US companies such as Alcolac International and Phillips.
Always has before.....because it really doesn't matter what we think.
We never should have invaded Iraq, we should have thrown all the troops into Afghanistan. Now we have too few in Afghanistan and we have basically broken Iraq.
As a Vietnam vet I firmly believe that since we broke it we have an absolute moral obligation to do our damndest to fix it, unlike the way we bailed on South Vietnam.
I don't disagree with you. However, while I certainly enjoy steering certain discussions down the windy road of getting off topic, maybe we should let this one be.
GM,
While I agree with SA, the U.S. is there now, and the outcome shoule we pull out prematurely would be horrific.
