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Originally posted by Ex_CG_GM:
Once again a discussion, in this case regarding waterboarding of a prisoner, degenerates into mindless bickering about religion.

This has been discussed ad nauseum on the board for years. Can't you find something a bit more interesting, or at least stay on topic?

I guarantee you are NOT going to change anyone's mind by continuing to pound your chest and shout "I AM RIGHT, YOU ARE WRONG!"

And by the way, we all end up as compost, so don't waste your money buying either a harp or asbestos underwear.

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Originally posted by scrounge:

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Originally posted by FrankieFunk:
Scrounge, What make you think I an "not of faith". I have very strong faith. Is it beacuse it's not the same faith as you that you are attacking me? I have no problem with people having faith in whatever they want. The problem I have is mixing religion with government. America is a melting pot this country was founded on the believe that every American is free. Free to voice you opinions, Free to believe in whatever political system you want and vote that way and yes free to worship whatever god you want or none at all. When you mix religion in with government however, it discriminates against people who do not believe that way. Would you like to live under a dictatorship that has a state sponsored religion that forces you to believe. What if it wasent what you believed? The purpose of a free democratic government is the govern for all people regardless of religious beliefs.

I've never said I wanted a state sponsored religion. Never, not once. I am tired of those that forget this nation was founded upon biblical principles...and try to utilize the freedoms these founders signed onto as a way to critize and ridicule Christians....

Following Christian precepts (the ten commandments) does not discriminate, it simply establishes the law, so one knows what one has done.

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Originally posted by FrankieFunk:

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Originally posted by scrounge:

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Originally posted by FrankieFunk:
Scrounge, What make you think I an "not of faith". I have very strong faith. Is it beacuse it's not the same faith as you that you are attacking me? I have no problem with people having faith in whatever they want. The problem I have is mixing religion with government. America is a melting pot this country was founded on the believe that every American is free. Free to voice you opinions, Free to believe in whatever political system you want and vote that way and yes free to worship whatever god you want or none at all. When you mix religion in with government however, it discriminates against people who do not believe that way. Would you like to live under a dictatorship that has a state sponsored religion that forces you to believe. What if it wasent what you believed? The purpose of a free democratic government is the govern for all people regardless of religious beliefs.

I've never said I wanted a state sponsored religion. Never, not once. I am tired of those that forget this nation was founded upon biblical principles...and try to utilize the freedoms these founders signed onto as a way to critize and ridicule Christians....

Following Christian precepts (the ten commandments) does not discriminate, it simply establishes the law, so one knows what one has done.

How in the hell is though shall have no other gods above me LAW. Are you nuts how can you even consider that law.

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Originally posted by retiredandlovingit:
hey, what if we had captured the guy, according to the Mil he was not captured.

We could try and convert him to christianity and baptize him. we will put him on a board and we will baptize the hell out of him 7 or 8 time!!!

later

cliff
PS: the above is as absurd as 99.9% of the discussions on the rest of this hijacked thread

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Originally posted by FrankieFunk:
Its not a law scrounge. Its a belief and saying everyone should follow that belief is extremely ignorant. Wow, you sure are gonna be disappointed when you find out this religion thing is all a big hoax to make scared people feel better about the big scary world.

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Originally posted by retiredandlovingit:
hey, what if we had captured the guy, according to the Mil he was not captured.

We could try and convert him to christianity and baptize him. we will put him on a board and we will baptize the hell out of him 7 or 8 time!!!

later

cliff
PS: the above is as absurd as 99.9% of the discussions on the rest of this hijacked thread

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Originally posted by scrounge:

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Originally posted by retiredandlovingit:
hey, what if we had captured the guy, according to the Mil he was not captured.

We could try and convert him to christianity and baptize him. we will put him on a board and we will baptize the hell out of him 7 or 8 time!!!

later

cliff
PS: the above is as absurd as 99.9% of the discussions on the rest of this hijacked thread

It might be noted that the thread went "off topic" when Fourstring brought Jesus into the argument. (page 1) I'm not embarrassed about the Gospel of Jesus Christ, so when one opens the door....

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I find this very interesting...and I'm certainly not forcing you to read it. You stated your belief, should I tell you that it is not interesting? If you've read much of this stream you can't ever say you weren't informed.

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Originally posted by scrounge:

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Originally posted by FrankieFunk:

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Originally posted by scrounge:

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Originally posted by FrankieFunk:
Scrounge, What make you think I an "not of faith". I have very strong faith. Is it beacuse it's not the same faith as you that you are attacking me? I have no problem with people having faith in whatever they want. The problem I have is mixing religion with government. America is a melting pot this country was founded on the believe that every American is free. Free to voice you opinions, Free to believe in whatever political system you want and vote that way and yes free to worship whatever god you want or none at all. When you mix religion in with government however, it discriminates against people who do not believe that way. Would you like to live under a dictatorship that has a state sponsored religion that forces you to believe. What if it wasent what you believed? The purpose of a free democratic government is the govern for all people regardless of religious beliefs.

I've never said I wanted a state sponsored religion. Never, not once. I am tired of those that forget this nation was founded upon biblical principles...and try to utilize the freedoms these founders signed onto as a way to critize and ridicule Christians....

Following Christian precepts (the ten commandments) does not discriminate, it simply establishes the law, so one knows what one has done.

How in the hell is though shall have no other gods above me LAW. Are you nuts how can you even consider that law.

Because the maker of the law stated said so...

But not to worry, he gives you the choice to blaspheme, and the nation founded upon his principles provides you the right to speek freely against Him and your fellow man.

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Hijacked thread... Whatever. I'm sorry that I don't have a one track mind like so many others here. I can think of more than on topic at a time and I can find common threads in peoples' thoughts.

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Originally posted by Ex_CG_GM:

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I find this very interesting...and I'm certainly not forcing you to read it. You stated your belief, should I tell you that it is not interesting? If you've read much of this stream you can't ever say you weren't informed.

I found the original topic discussion to be somewhat interesting. My post was, if anything, a protest at yet another interesting thread turning into yet another thread about religion.

After spending a year in Iraq I have no qualms about subjecting this guy to waterboarding.

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After spending a year in Iraq I have no qualms about subjecting this guy to waterboarding.

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Originally posted by Ex_CG_GM:

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Hijacked thread... Whatever. I'm sorry that I don't have a one track mind like so many others here. I can think of more than on topic at a time and I can find common threads in peoples' thoughts.

You may be able to think of more then one topic at a time, but you have obviously abandoned any thoughts about remaining on the original subject in favor of attempting to drag religious beliefs into it instead.

You need to get out of California.......you are being assimilated.

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Have you ever been in a conversation with someone, serious or not, and it veers in different directions from where you started?

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Originally posted by FourString:

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Originally posted by Ex_CG_GM:

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Hijacked thread... Whatever. I'm sorry that I don't have a one track mind like so many others here. I can think of more than on topic at a time and I can find common threads in peoples' thoughts.

You may be able to think of more then one topic at a time, but you have obviously abandoned any thoughts about remaining on the original subject in favor of attempting to drag religious beliefs into it instead.

You need to get out of California.......you are being assimilated.

Hey, I just posted one sentence about Jesus that I thought was approriate. Scrounge speaks of the word of Christ, yet condones torture and inflicting pain on others. I find it to be a contradiction. If others chose to pick up on that and run with it, that's not my fault.

Have you ever been in a conversation with someone, serious or not, and it veers in different directions from where you started?