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Perhaps money grubbing capitalism does have its upside:
...gjd |
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They don't have the legal right to tap phones. I'm happy that they haven't paid the bill. Maybe it was Nixon? but one of the presidents tried that before.
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Concerning CELL PHONES...No "tapping" required. |
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If you are not an authorized government agent and are listening in on cell phone conversations you are breaking the law. The key word here is authorized. |
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11/14/08: Member suspended 30 days for obscene posts. |
The MSRC ship in Hawaii had a fairly sophisticated scanner on the bridge. We amused ourselves by scanning for juicy cell phone arguments, then broadcasting it onto the workdeck during the boring hours of draggin "drill" boom around in the water. Some of it was hysterical ...
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I really don't see why the adverage joe honest citizen cares about wire tapping..i doubt that george or even cheney..care about what you or i say on the phone..if they catch a bad guy..i am for it..that is one right i don't really need..i would not say anything on the phone or here..that i would be upset about..would you?
why not make life as tough on crooks and terrrorist as possible ?  sc |
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Nice job of CYA, Steve. Now what do you really think?????  ...gjd |
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"going to talk and cause suspicion..." |
I don't mind them listening as long as they don't hold it against me. I like to roll with the libertarians!
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lol..George..there is a new show comming out on TV soon..where a lie detector is hooked up to a contestent..and they ask them some pretty personal questions for money.
I would love to see some politicans on this show.. ..that's all i am saying..nope nutthing else..well i love republicans..that's it ..keep us safe..bomb bomb bomb everybody.. sc |
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Probably because the average joe believes in the constitution. What if your guns you bought legally were taken away? |
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The key word is common sense..I would never expect that what I say on open airwaves is somehow protected...(other than by the law)... No different than I would feel secure with a sub standard lock on my front door...It's still illegal to break in, but if my security is based on poor logic.... |
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I understand your point..but OUR world has changed since 9/11 so if someone's life is saved from terrorist..or if some drug dealer gets caught ..and at the same time my secretsauce recipe is compromised..oh well. Guns i don't own any guns.. |
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People have to stop using the 9/11 card for government failures. When will people realize that the government can not protect you, people can only protect themselves. If we didn't have bogus government agencies like TSA and the FAA, 9/11 never would have happend in the first place. Airline companies are owned privately, therefore it should be their responsibility to use all their constitutional rights to protect their passengers. The writers of the constitution were of the most brilliant people to ever walk this earth. They wrote it to protect people FROM the government. Slowly but surely, more and more rights slip away, everything from the economy (by way of the federal reserve), to now you cant even talk on the phone without someone listening. And when this is brought up, people just go with it. Anyone who agrees with illegal wire tapping, torture, etc..., does not deserve to live in a free society, no matter what the excuse. Especially members of the military, who took an oath to protect that document.
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I see your passionate about this so..let me tell you this you start your own revolution..as for me ..i am almost 50 and i have had a long hard day at work ..and i am working tommarro..so i believe ..i,ll eat some strawberrie newtons and drink a little coffee ..while you are fighting the good fight.
scFAA is bogus  i would,nt want to fly without that organization around..bad enough as it is..and flight controllers are retireing left and right..so the standards are being lowered to fill the slots..as for the constitution..it begins with WE THE PEOPLE ..so if it needs changing..and WE THE PEOPLE want change ...why not? Pls remember the writers of the constitution ..did,nt even know what a telephone or a airplane was..times have change.. scThis message has been edited. Last edited by: spacecowboy1, |
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When talking about cell phone "tapping" I'm speaking about an expectation of privacy...for crying out loud these signals cross through the air like radio waves....I'm just saying the expectation is too high.....If terorists are so stupid as to talk about hurting US citizens on a cell phone, they deserve to be caught. I've heard many a cell phone conversation that I didn't want to hear, because something somewhere routed wrong....
Yet these same folks have no problems concerning our lifestyle liberties slowly eroding away...liberties concerning choice, wearing seat belts, eating a sandwich while driving, constitutionally protected gun rights etc.... |
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Out here in la la land you get a ticket if you're talking on a cell phone. My daughter has a headset so can talk and drive. I don't use the cell when driving, I pull over. Another law is 'children should be in the back seat and belted in.' I can remember my son was in a car seat that hung over the front seat. If I'd made a quick stop he'd have gone through the windshield. Laws are made to 'protect' us. It's getting more and more like a dictator.
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Highly Experienced Member |
 Really? Are you saying the "right" to eat a sandwich while driving is equal to "constitutionally protected gun rights?" ...gjd |
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I used to shoot a 357 magnum at the range here in town. Just for fun. I out shot my husband and his father.
Pop gave me the firearm. I wish I had it back. But 'carrying' a weapon is beyond me. If citizens all had guns and knew how to use them this would be a safer world. that time will never come |
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I'm not aying that at all...Sorry my words implied that. I'm saying I find it curious (suspect) that the same people that cry about (complaint: the loss of some liberties)cell phone traffic intercepts (tapping), ....are the same ones that want to fight over our consitutionally protected gun rights. I see that as selective liberty concerns...Obviously it's just politically motivated rants... This message has been edited. Last edited by: scrounge, |
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I like what fred says...keep having fun.
personally i figure..cops are just people..they go to work..and they want to go home. I doubt anyone of them is out looking for your gun ..regardless of the constituntion..unless you draw attention to yourself ie..shoot up the street signs etc etc. ammo is expensive..if i waste it..i would rather waste it on a home intruder..than just shooting to be shooting. oh but..that does,nt matter..uh..i have no guns sc You never know who is listening. |
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