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So, There has been allot made about Obama's ties with Bill Ayers (even though he was 8 years old when the illegal activities were going on) but very little has been made of Palin and her husbands ties to this extreme political party. I have answered questions about Obama associating with "terrorists" so now it's the Sidney McCain's supporters turn. Whats do you make of this?
"http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/" |
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Don't believe Salon.com? Here it from Aunt Sarah's own mouth:
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI" Frankie, I agree with you, it's time that Sidney (aka Insane McCain), and Aunt Sarah's answer some questions. I won't hold my breath, though. |
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Factcheck.org
"She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She’s been registered as a Republican since May 1982." |
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There ya go using facts again! Don't you know that facts are not welcome when the lying left is attacking McCain/Palin? Much like their hero, the Almighty Yobama, if they repeat the lies enough, they become true.. |
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You want more? Same source elaborates;
"Palin was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party – which calls for a vote on whether Alaska should secede from the union or remain a state – despite mistaken reports to the contrary. But her husband was a member for years, and she attended at least one party convention, as mayor of the town in which it was held. The party's chair originally told reporters that Palin had been a member, but the official later retracted that statement. Chairwoman Lynette Clark told the New York Times that false information had been given to her by another member of the party after she first told the Times and others that Palin joined the AIP in 1994. Clark issued an apology on the AIP Web site. The director of Alaska’s Division of Elections, Gail Fenumiai, confirms that Palin registered to vote in the state for the first time in May 1982 as a Republican and hasn’t changed her party affiliation since. She also told FactCheck.org that Palin’s husband, Todd, was registered with AIP from October 1995 to July 2000, and again from September 2000 until July 2002. (He has since been registered as undeclared.) However, the AIP says Todd Palin "never participated in any party activities aside from attending a convention in Wasilla at one time." There is still some dispute as to whether Sarah Palin also attended the AIP’s 1994 convention, held in Wasilla. Clark and another AIP official told ABC News’ Jake Tapper that both Palins were there. Palin was elected mayor of Wasilla two years later. The McCain campaign says Sarah Palin went to the 2000 AIP convention, also held in Wasilla, “as a courtesy since she was mayor.” As governor, Palin sent a video message to the 2008 convention, which is available on YouTube, and the AIP says she attended in 2006 when she was campaigning." |
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Was Obama ever a member of the Weather Underground? Just asking. I never said she was a member of the party, just that she had ties just like Obama has ties to Bill Ayers. Whats the difference? |
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Where have we posted she was a member? Hmmm? Her husband was a member, and she gave them "God's" blessing during the 2008, Alaska Independence Party convention.
Did you actually even listen to the video? QUOTE: a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States Aw cmon, you don't actually believe that do you?Let's hear what Joe (The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government) Vogler, the founder of the AIP has to say. I believe his words more than yours? "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmYqRfp6-x8" Mario |
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The difference is in the amount of association and the unanswered questions that remain with Obama.
IMO there are too many questionable associations with Obama that need answering, but that's another thread.....  |
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30 day suspension for disruptive postings. TOS Section 6(i). 10/8/08 |
Perhaps. But her husband, Todd, was a member of that secessionist party until at least 2002. Thus she is guilty of consorting with a person who supports a Party with an Un-American mission -- and she continues to do so. And both she and her running mate incite their supporters to violence by encouraging them to shout out invectives such as "Kill 'em!" "Terrorist!" and "Treason!" -- as well as racial slurs -- when referring to their opponents. The Secret Service is investigating these scurrilous and threatening chants that resulted from the hate speeches of Palin and McCain. ...gjd |
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I would like to respond cf but I can't quiet make sense of your post.
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What questions does he need to Answer? I haven't heard Palin answer one single question about her association with this party. I'm sure when she does get asked she will just wink and change the subject anyway. |
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That was addressed on another thread.
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And my wife is a woman and I am not. So what the heck are you trying to say? Oh I know! You want to people to ignore that fact that Obama associated with at least one terrorist so you throw mud at Palin! Just like Obamaites! Mudslinging... Politics as usual!  |
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30 day suspension for disruptive postings. TOS Section 6(i). 10/8/08 |
Yep. Ain't American democracy grand?! ...gjd |
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Do you even have a clue as to the actual position of the AIP? You labeled them as extreme and are attempting to compare them to the Weatherman Underground which shows that you have not bothered to do any actual research for yourself. So lets help you out by comparing the two organizations; Weather Underground; An break away group from the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) they were formed for the violent rebellion and "revolution" against the United States government. AIP; Founded with the expressed purpose of correcting the "illegal" (it was 'illegal" under the UN resolution 742) vote for Alaska Statehood by "Peaceful and lawful " means. Weather Underground; In 1970 declared "war" on the United States. AIP; Pledge "To effect full compliance with the constitutions of the United States of America and the State of Alaska." Weather underground; Engaged in violent riots, bombings and jail breaks. AIP; Engaged in the peaceful voting process by placing their candidates on the ballot. Weather Underground; An illegal "terrorist" organization. AIP; A legal political party. I could go on and on but hopefully you get the point. The two organizations and their intended purposes are diametrically opposite. But hey please don't let anything like facts get in the way of your rhetoric. Marklf edited to correct AIG to AIP. Thanks for the correction Meat. This message has been edited. Last edited by: MarkLF, |
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GJD,
"Perhaps. But her husband, Todd, was a member of that secessionist party until at least 2002. Thus she is guilty of consorting with a person who supports a Party with an Un-American mission -- and she continues to do so." What is "Un-American" about the AIG? Just because you claim they are a "secessionist party" does not make it true! They are very pro "States Rights" and have called for the Alaska Statehood vote to be done in accordance with the UN resolution that was in effect at the time. The problem with the vote the way it was held is that it only permitted two options Statehood or no Statehood. Under international law it was required to offer these choices; 1) Remain a Territory. 2) Become a separate and Independent Nation. 3) Accept Commonwealth status. 4) Become a State. Notice that the vote they are calling for has 3 out 4 options calling for Alaska to remain part of the US. The AIG has stated that they do not endorse any one of the choices but just want the people of Alaska to have the opportunity to make their own choice as required by UN resolution. Marklf |
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The words of AIP founder, Joe Vogler:
Considering that he was murdered during an attempt to purchase explosives, he should have been taken very seriously here.
His "goal" may have been "ultimate independence by peaceful means", but he was clearly willing to resort to violence. It's amusing that the Righties are SOOOOO outraged about whatever passing relationship Obama might or might not have had with Ayers and are looking for a terrorist under every single one of Obama's beds, but they totally dismiss out of hand the much closer relationship Todd Palin had with a separatist party. Hypocrisy to the nth degree. |
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30 day suspension for disruptive postings. TOS Section 6(i). 10/8/08 |
Fact: William Ayers was never tried for any crime. ...gjd |
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Hopefully, no one's "rhetoric" trips over that fact. |
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"Fact: William Ayers was never tried for any crime. "
Fact: That does not mean that he did not commit those crimes. In this case he was not charged because of prosecutoreal misconduct. He has however admitted to his part in the bombings and illegal activities. He has also stated in an interview with the New York Times "I don't regret setting bombs". Marklf |
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