Shut the hell up about your stupid Man Made Global Warming crap! Shut up! I woke up this morning to snow! October 16th and we have snow on the ground! I got your global warming right here!
right on. Al Gore just looking to make a few extra bucks, can't blame him for that, but really cut the crap. Do you really think 80 years of an industrialized world has really changed the climate of a world that's billions of years old. Doesn't make sense to me.
May 27, 2005 Antarctic Ice: A Global Warming Snow Job? Filed under: Antarctic, Glaciers/Sea Ice, Polar, Sea Level Rise — Climate scientists have long suspected that warming the oceans around a very cold continent is likely to dramatically increase snowfall. Consider Antarctica. It’s plenty chilly, dozens of degrees below freezing, and it’s surrounded by water. The warmer the water, the greater the evaporation from its surface, and, obviously, the more moisture it contributes to the local atmosphere.
So, when this moisture gets swirled up by a common cyclone, do you think it’s going to fall as rain in Antarctica?
A recent study, no shocker to real climatologists (but perhaps to climate doomsayers), demonstrates this simple physics. It appears in the latest SciencExpress, and it shows that the vast majority of the Antarctic landmass is rapidly gaining ice and snow cover.
Obviously this moisture comes from the sea. And, being deposited in solid form on the land-way-down-under, this lowers the earth’s sea level.
Like we said, this should shock no climatologist. But consider the “profession” of environmental journalism, which ran these headlines just one teensy month ago:
“Antarctic glaciers shrink” –The Baltimore Sun, April 22, 2005
“Study shows Antarctic glaciers shrinking” –Associated Press, April 22, 2005
“Vanishing glaciers: Antarctica’s big melt” –The Australian, April 23, 2005
“New study points to big melt in Antarctica” – Sci-Tech Today, April 22, 2005
“Antarctic glaciers in mass retreat” –Nature.com, April 21, 2005
“Antarctic glaciers at risk of global warming” – All Headline News, April 22, 2005
“Antarctic glaciers are getting smaller faster” –The Times On-line, April 22, 2005
“Shrinking glaciers confirm the worst” –New Scientist, April 27, 2005
Suddenly the tune has changed:
“As climate shifts, Antarctic ice sheet is growing” –Los Angeles Times, May 20, 2005
“Scientists link global warming to Antarctic’s ice cap’s growth” –Chicago Tribune, May 20, 2005
“Antarctica ice cap thickens” –Pittsburgh Post Gazette, May 20, 2005
“Warming is blamed for Antarctic’s weight gain” –New York Times, May 20, 2005
“Ice sheet confounds climate theory” – The Telegraph, May 20, 2005
“Antarctica ice cap thickens, slowing rise in sea levels” – Pioneer Press, May 20, 2005
Recent climate changes have led to a fairly large warming trend in the region around the Antarctic Peninsula—the spit of land the stretches from the Antarctic mainland towards the southern tip of South America. In this region, comprising about 2% of the entirety of Antarctica, significant changes associated with rising temperatures are being observed—floating ice shelves are breaking up, glaciers are shrinking, seal species are moving in, grasses, tiny shrubs and mosses are thriving, etc. By most accounts, transitioning from a relatively barren, frozen landscape to a warmer, less frozen one would seem to be a positive development, as this change presents a growing opportunity for increased species richness and diversity. But, in today’s world, dominated by an eagerness to demonstrate how human activities are impacting the innocent “natural” species of the world, all change is bad.
The fact is that the vast majority of global warming stories that have come out of Antarctica are based upon observations and events on and around the Peninsula. This isn’t surprising as it conforms to my theory of “Predictable Distortion” recently published in my book Meltdown. Indeed, the number of stories about Antarctic melting is roughly in inverse proportion to the percentage of the Antarctic continent that they pertain to (and thus their global significance). For instance, most of Antarctica has actually been cooling for the past couple of decades (see here for more details). And now comes word that the snow and ice cover over large portions of Antarctica has been increasing, leading to a drawdown of global sea level.
In their SciencExpress article, Curt Davis (University of Missouri-Columbia) and his collaborators used satellite radar altimetry measurements from 1992 to 2003 to determine that, on average, the elevation of about 8.5 million square kilometers of the Antarctic interior has been increasing (Figure 1). The increasing elevation was then linked to increases in snowfall, which was translated into a mass gain of 45 ± 7 billion tons per year, tying up enough moisture to lower sea level by 0.12 ± 0.02 millimeters per year.
HAHAHA and you consider Rush a poor source of info.
Come on man...gotta be a humor shot.
But, the recent cooling trend is the very reason why the name was changed to from Global Warming to Climate Change. Nothing more than a feeble attempt to claim all sides of the debate. God forbid we ignore the fact that this cooling trend oddly coincides with the reduction of solar activity.
Its becoming appalling clear what this push really is. Nothing more than a scam to create a several hundreds billion of dollar market scheme.
Originally posted by disagreed: [QUOTE]quote: Watch the movie The Day After.
HAHAHA and you consider Rush a poor source of info.
I hope so because if not......well that is just plain old embarrasing....but hey lots of folks have bought Al's Snake Oil....maybe he's one. Go figure.
It's hotter than Hell in San Pedro CA summer is coming it gets hotter and hotter. I purchested a AC I'll turn it on when it gets HOT HOT I have 5 fans going in my apartment it's cool
Shut the hell up about your stupid Man Made Global Warming crap! Shut up! I woke up this morning to snow! October 16th and we have snow on the ground! I got your global warming right here!
Take your man made global warming and stick it!
Very mature. And you are confusing weather with climate. Climate is generally defined as the long-term average of weather over a specified area over a specified period of time; 30 years is the norm for the last couple centuries. Though it may not be apparently obvious to you looking out your window, mean temperatures HAVE increased in statistically significant correlation with human-caused greenhouse gas emissions over the last 150 years, with a corresponding intensification of the hydrologic cycle, which is the mean reason global warming is a problem (and why we are generally seeing and expect to continue to see wetter winters and dryer summers).
I've never seen Al Gore's movie, but I understand he has had a positive effect in communicating climate change to the average person, not entirely accurately, but its complicated stuff we're talking about and he's not a scientist. I applaud the good he's done.
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Do you really think 80 years of an industrialized world has really changed the climate of a world that's billions of years old. Doesn't make sense to me.
A very reasonable hypothesis, and one that's been tested over more than 50 years of climate science development world-wide, has within a cumulative 95% confidence interval (IPCC 2008) supported the null. As scientists we deal only in uncertainties, which is why science is such a damnably frustrating place to go for answers to political questions, but within a reasonable probability of error scientific observations match what would be expected for climate change to be occurring, and from a largely anthropogenic origin over the last 140 years of industrial development.
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But, the recent cooling trend is the very reason why the name was changed to from Global Warming to Climate Change. Nothing more than a feeble attempt to claim all sides of the debate. God forbid we ignore the fact that this cooling trend oddly coincides with the reduction of solar activity.
That's incorrect, but the real story behind the change from 'global warming' to 'climate change' is pretty interesting. The change originally came out of the White House Science Advisory office around 2004, because "Global warming communicates a problem that requires immediate intervention, while Climate Change invokes a more nuanced concept that implies a less imminent threat" (Pielke 2008). Funny enough a term that was coined as a means to draw attention away from the urgency of global warming was adopted, probably unwittingly, by climate scientists anyway because it more accurately describes the threat, which is the general intensification of the hydrologic cycle, rather than the driver, which is global warming (and scientists prefer to be accurate, usually to the detriment of communicating the problem in a politically expedient manner).
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Al Gore's sheeple are proof that there really IS a fool born every minute.
As I've said, I've not seen his movie or particularly care who he is, but my own eyes, and 10+ years of academic training in critical thinking (and as someone who initially approached climate change with no particular view on it), and from my real world experience, I am convinced that the preponderance of the scientific and qualitative evidence points to anthropogenic forcing as the largest signal in climate change. And I assure you that I'm no fool.
Further Reading:
IPCC, 2007: Summary for Policymakers. In: Climate Change 2007: The Physical Science Basis. Contribution of Working Group I to the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change [Solomon, S., D. Qin, M. Manning, Z. Chen, M. Marquis, K.B. Averyt, M.Tignor and H.L. Miller (eds.)]. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, United Kingdom and New York, NY, USA.
Pielke, Roger. The Honest Broker: Making Sense of Science in Policy and Politics. Cambridge University Press. Cambridge, UK, 2007.
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Very mature. And you are confusing weather with climate.
Gee wiz... thanks for the lesson and for telling me nothing unknown!
Would you know sarcasm if it bit you on your backside? Doubt it as you missed it here!
If you want to see the Earth get warm, get up early and watch the Sun rise. You might be surprised as to what occurs!
Do you recall back in the 70's when the same scientists whining about global warming today were whining about global cooling? Well, they did. And of course, it was man's fault. BTW, Mars is supposedly warming, too. Is that man's fault, too?
Sarcasm... sometimes it brings out the tolerance of folks!
Doubt it as you missed it here! 
